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  1. I'd probably yawn at it and move on. These days, it's doubtful that I'm the one to discover vulnerabilities in FA, and I figure that a vulnerability found is a vulnerability best exploited by somebody else. Addendum: I'd likely not report it because of how past performances over the last decade have played out. (Yes, yes, "past performance does not predict future outcome," but given that none of the actors involved have changed, I'd say it's all quite statistically likely to take the same course.)
  2. The irony in this is that it's usually the Internet Archive (or, rather, Jason Scott's Archive Team) calling out for people to download things feverishly to prevent losing them forever. See their home page.
  3. nrr

    What's your job?

    I'm a Systems Engineer in the Digital (read: Non-Linear) Technology Operations group at the Turner Broadcasting System, based out of CNN Center. Yes, that TBS. If you've ever visited cnn.com or cartoonnetwork.com or any of the other Turner brands' sites, you've hit code I've written. If any of that goes down, it's my problem. For the most part, the job's pretty great. The corporate environment is amazingly liberal in that the benefits we get are pretty awesome. After three years, I now have five weeks of PTO allotted to me in addition to one week of what's called Volunteer Time Off, where I can continue working for my same salary for a week while helping out in the community. The biggest downside is that it is a large corporation, so the politics and back scratching do take on a pretty large role in the day-to-day. I find that, if I want to get something done, I just have to knuckle down and fucking do it myself. The career progression is there, but promotions are exceedingly hard to come by now that the finance department is clamping down on salaries. That said, prospects elsewhere are plentiful and with similar perquisite benefits to boot, so I'm not crying about it.
  4. Ah, but therein lies the distinction: In the vocative pejorative, it becomes harder not to construe what was said as harassment. Going against the abstract or against inanimate objects also leaves things open for legitimate argument, even if the same or similar message as the vocative pejorative can be conveyed through the abstract as an actor. It's just more defensible.
  5. Wait. Hold on. I don't follow. §2 governs intellectual property ownership of the Software (as implicitly defined in the preamble) and has no bearing at all on intellectual property ownership of the data itself. Not true. Carenath is entitled only to know how his relationship to FA works. I'm seeing conflicting facts on this issue; one set says that Carenath was still a member of technical staff during the FAF split, and another set says that he wasn't. That's one thing that will need to be disputed and sorted out. That will be one of the determining factors in this if this case does follow a litigious trajectory. If Carenath can be shown to have been a member of technical staff, the general legal assumption will be that Carenath acted in bad faith unless record can be procured that some agreement was reached (as well as some degree of restitution given) to allow the FAF to become an entity outside the FA umbrella. On that issue, I'm seeing more conflicting facts. Dragoneer states that he made no such agreement; meanwhile, a lot of us have heard otherwise. yak was also an actor here, acting as an intermediary, and it's possible that yak may have acted in negotiorum gestorio to reach a common ground without Dragoneer's consult, fearing that inaction may have done a demonstrably valuable part of the community some harm. That's another thing that will need to be disputed. There's another fact of this case so far that I think people are missing, and that's the fact that no software exchange has so far taken place. Any of the remedies outlined in the vBulletin license don't (yet) apply except for the one regarding domain names and domain name changes. The move to phoenix.corvidae.org may very well invalidate the license. There's actually more than one agreement there (or, rather, a license agreement for self-hosted software and a terms of service agreement for the vB cloud) to consider, and I think folks are getting a little bit confused as how things apply here. The language of the license states that the software license cannot be resold for profit or transferred without the written permission of vBulletin, and the language of the terms of service (specifically §8 there, since it's somewhat well-hidden) states that the customer of vBulletin Cloud retains all interest in the Content and End User Content (as defined in §1) that vB hosts as part of the service. The only problem here is that there's no customer of vBulletin Cloud to the best of my knowledge; Carenath hosted the software himself with a third-party hosting provider. The vBulletin Cloud considerations are, hence, moot, which means any interpretations of the vBulletin terms of service are also moot since they do not apply. This means that the only document in force is the vBulletin license agreement. Reading through the vBulletin license agreement, I see nothing that pertains to data ownership, only to right to use of the software. This means that any data ownership concerns will rest on whether or not legal justification can be made that the FAF was indeed a part of FA. Any non-hearsay evidence that can be brought forth regarding FA's plans to nuke the FAF will certainly be helpful for our case, for sure.
  6. I'll agree with this to a point: Insults in the vocative should be streng verboten or, at the very least, viewed as extremely corrosive to the social fabric here. It's wildly inappropriate to call an individual any sort of denigrating, derogatory names in any context. In fact, the way I was raised, it was viewed as permissible to use words like Scheiße and verdammt with conviction as long as you did not call anyone names in this manner. „Es gibt so viele Scheißlieder im Radio“ There are so many shitty songs on the radio? Perfectly okay. „Deine Idee ist wohl Scheiße.“ Your idea is probably stupid (read: shit)? Also okay. „Frau Hoffmann ist eine verdammte Kackschlampe.“ Mrs. Hoffmann is a fucking bitch? Not okay. Similarly: „David, du Wichser, was hast du hier denn gemacht?“ David, you wanker, what have you done? Nope, not okay.
  7. I think the biggest problem that the old FAF had was that there was definitely more of an implied reliance on the institution to maintain some degree of social order. The only problem is that the institution was direly incompetent, and in fact, it often made the situation worse. To add insult to injury, it was an offense to act in the capacity of a moderator to try to maintain social order. The result was a lot of backlash and very little of having the community's denizens actually call out behavior it saw as unsavory. (And, trust me, a lot of us saw the insults and shitposting and just general chaos as unsavory, but the most we could do was hit the "report" button and hope for the best.) Also, since I don't have the heart to post any more responses to Pikaduck over on that one giant trainwreck of a journal at FA: I'll just leave it at that. Regdate 05 here. My oldfag status is more oldfaggier than thy oldfag status. :B Those folks were getting attention (i.e., positive reinforcement) for being jerks, so it begat more jerkitude. You can't successfully combat that kind of thing with any institutional punishment other than hellbanning and short-lived suspensions, and unfortunately, no one ever did that. Unfortunately, the denizens never really made good use of the self-moderation tools available to them to keep those distractions at bay.
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