Awful Furry

[FerretSage]

I signed my name up. I was a long-time member of FaF. Dec 2005 -- a rare poster with a little over 110 posts when FaF became Phoenix. Been involved in furry since 1993.

I probably will maintain a similar lurky presence here. Mostly just squatting on my name.

Before I go, I have a number of terrible questions.

1. How can people so invested into furry continue to call it a hobby... or a fandom... and still continue to vehemently deny what is clearly a lifestyle?
2. How can one side of 24/7 furries shame those for making a life out of their fetish, when they themselves have made only an online limbo out of their own fetishes?
3. Why is it when people dress up as some sort of zoomorphic human, it's nearly always to reveal themselves as attention-seeking showboating whores, from rated-PG furry conventions, to getting peed on at the X-rated Folsom Fair?
4. If human-animals are perceived as subhumans, where are the superhumans? 
5. Why do animal-people bring out the animal in humans, in both prude and hedonist alike for the same reasons? 
6. Why do people feel the need to justify taking their own humanity in new directions and new shapes with some false and grotesquely pathetic Otherkin/werekin backstory instead of owning their creativity, personal expression, and art? 
7. Why do those who want people to be just like them play the conformist card on others? 
8. Why do those who believe humanity can be abandoned by adopting an inhuman shape also unwittingly confess their perception of humanity as being only skin deep?
9. Why does #8 apply doubly to people staring down the barrel of a lifetime within the human factory farm, raging at people threatening to abandon them in their corporate world?

 

If I could go back in time, I would support the Burned Fur movement 15 years ago in eliminating all publicly accessible furry pornography, but not for the moral reasons they espoused. Rather, my opposition to public furry erotica is because people can't understand "proper time, proper place", that people as sexualized animals is not the same as animals as sexualized people (people as sexualized animals is a concept that stumps both zoophiles and moral conservatives for the same reason), and that people don't understand that there is more to life than getting snagged in a go-nowhere "online community" endlessly drawing power animals they are too lazy to internalize.

Edited October 24, 2015 by FerretSage

[Chrysocyon]

Welcome to the new forums. I lurked a lot on the old FAF, too, a little over 100 posts since 2009.

As for the questions, looks like a load of complex question fallacy, so I'm not even going to attempt to answer any of those.

[Sidewalk Surfboard]

Fucking furfags. Yiff in hell.

[PastryOfApathy]

I'll bite creepy old man, probably in some greasy Tiny Toon's shirt he bought on ebay to wank to.

>How can people so invested into furry continue to call it a hobby... or a fandom... and still continue to vehemently deny what is clearly a lifestyle?

Because it's not. Unless occasionally drawing silly animal people when I'm bored and occasionally talking to friends on an internet forum is enough to be considered a "lifestyle". Although if your life is defined so much by something as stupid as furfaggotry than whether or not it's a "lifestyle" is the least of your issues.

>How can one side of 24/7 furries shame those for making a life out of their fetish, when they themselves have made only an online limbo out of their own fetishes?

Because being a fuckin' weirdo on the internet and being a creepy pervert in real life are two completely different things? I mean I'm not gonna lie and say I've never said certain questionable things under the guise of anonymity (if you used to go on /lolg/ and the name "yordlefucker" rings a bell...h0i), but I'm not gonna run around my work screaming about how I want to impale someones hamster on my cock.

>Why is it when people dress up as some sort of zoomorphic human, it's nearly always to reveal themselves as attention-seeking showboating whores, from rated-PG furry conventions, to getting peed on at the X-rated Folsom Fair?

wat...

>If human-animals are perceived as subhumans, where are the superhumans? 

wat²

>Why do animal-people bring out the animal in humans, in both prude and hedonist alike for the same reasons? 

These questions are beginning to look more like the ramblings of a mad man so I'm just gonna skip to the ones that are actually comprehensible to normal humans.

...

I don't even know what the fuck to make of any of this. Did you forget to take your meds this morning or something?

[FerretSage]

To answer all your questions, I only need one word.

 

Furries.

Thanks for the response.

I agree; it clearly doesn't take a lot of merit to be a furry.

 

I'll bite creepy old man, <snip> 
 I'm not gonna run around my work screaming about how I want to impale someones hamster on my cock.<snip>

>Why do animal-people bring out the animal in humans, in both prude and hedonist alike for the same reasons? 

These questions are beginning to look more like the ramblings of a mad man so I'm just gonna skip to the ones that are actually comprehensible to normal humans.

Colorful hyperbolic language. It's your professed lack of reading comprehension of my question you bolded that reveals that I have brought out a very hostile animal within you throughout your caustic response and also your attending prurient reasons why. If you had paid more attention in English class, you would have realized I wasn't endorsing the behavior I was questioning. Instead, you were paying too much attention to distance yourself from the behavior mentioned to notice that an appeal to perversion wasn't being made.

[AnotherWizard]

 

Before I go, I have a number of terrible questions.

1. How can people so invested into furry continue to call it a hobby... or a fandom... and still continue to vehemently deny what is clearly a lifestyle?

It's not a lifestyle. It's not something people are born with. And people are generally interested in it to meet with like minded people and fetish reasons. By the same token being into something like BDSM isn't a "lifestyle".

 

1. How can one side of 24/7 furries shame those for making a life out of their fetish, when they themselves have made only an online limbo out of their own fetishes?

 

I don't generally care about what other people do with their lives. I'd suggest you try the same. You'll live longer.

 

1. Why is it when people dress up as some sort of zoomorphic human, it's nearly always to reveal themselves as attention-seeking showboating whores, from rated-PG furry conventions, to getting peed on at the X-rated Folsom Fair?

 

See above. If you want to be judgmental I don't think furries are for you.

 

1. If human-animals are perceived as subhumans, where are the superhumans? 

 

I don't understand this question

 

1. Why do animal-people bring out the animal in humans, in both prude and hedonist alike for the same reasons? 

 

To quote Fear and loathing in Las Vegas

 

He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man

 

 

1. Why do people feel the need to justify taking their own humanity in new directions and new shapes with some false and grotesquely pathetic Otherkin/werekin backstory instead of owning their creativity, personal expression, and art? 

 

You're being extremely judgmental toward what other people do with their time and what they choose to be creative with. I'd suggest worrying about what you find creative and spending less time on what other people do.

 

1. Why do those who want people to be just like them play the conformist card on others? 

 

I don't understand this question

 

1. Why do those who believe humanity can be abandoned by adopting an inhuman shape also unwittingly confess their perception of humanity as being only skin deep?

 

I've never met a furry who wants to "abandon humanity" or who is a furry because they hate who they are. I'm a very human person who enjoys his humanity and his escapism. I don't see being human as skin deep and I have a variety of interests outside of furry.

 

1. Why does #8 apply doubly to people staring down the barrel of a lifetime within the human factory farm, raging at people threatening to abandon them in their corporate world?

 

I don't understand this question

If I could go back in time, I would support the Burned Fur movement 15 years ago in eliminating all publicly accessible furry pornography, but not for the moral reasons they espoused.

 

It was doomed to fail from the start. Pornography was inevitable. It would have happened at some point. You cannot stop people making pornography of things. This goes beyond Furry. People make pornography of characters from basically everything. And attempting to "eliminate" pornography just leads to more of it. Google "Streisand effect". 

Rather, my opposition to public furry erotica is because people can't understand "proper time, proper place",

What you don't seem to understand is "live and let live"

Nobody's hurting you. Nobody's forcing you to look at pornography. Nobody's forcing you to create pornography of your characters. You're free to do whatever you want. If seeing a furry character's dick ruffles your feathers so much you should probably not be here. 

 

that people as sexualized animals is not the same as animals as sexualized people (people as sexualized animals is a concept that stumps both zoophiles and moral conservatives for the same reason), and that people don't understand that there is more to life than getting snagged in a go-nowhere "online community" endlessly drawing power animals they are too lazy to internalize.

You're making a lot of judgements onto people and you're assuming people are in the community purely for a form of ego boost. When this is not always the case (and more often than not I meet furries that don't identify with animals at all and don't have fursonas). It's also hard to call a community a "go nowhere" community when many people find workplace contacts and permanent irl friendships through it mostly by accident. 

 

I'd suggest trying to be less judgmental. It doesn't do you any good in the long run. 

Edited October 25, 2015 by AnotherWizard
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[RTDragon]

 

1. How can people so invested into furry continue to call it a hobby... or a fandom... and still continue to vehemently deny what is clearly a lifestyle?
2. How can one side of 24/7 furries shame those for making a life out of their fetish, when they themselves have made only an online limbo out of their own fetishes?
3. Why is it when people dress up as some sort of zoomorphic human, it's nearly always to reveal themselves as attention-seeking showboating whores, from rated-PG furry conventions, to getting peed on at the X-rated Folsom Fair?
4. If human-animals are perceived as subhumans, where are the superhumans? 
5. Why do animal-people bring out the animal in humans, in both prude and hedonist alike for the same reasons? 
6. Why do people feel the need to justify taking their own humanity in new directions and new shapes with some false and grotesquely pathetic Otherkin/werekin backstory instead of owning their creativity, personal expression, and art? 
7. Why do those who want people to be just like them play the conformist card on others? 
8. Why do those who believe humanity can be abandoned by adopting an inhuman shape also unwittingly confess their perception of humanity as being only skin deep?
9. Why does #8 apply doubly to people staring down the barrel of a lifetime within the human factory farm, raging at people threatening to abandon them in their corporate world?

 

If I could go back in time, I would support the Burned Fur movement 15 years ago in eliminating all publicly accessible furry pornography, but not for the moral reasons they espoused. Rather, my opposition to public furry erotica is because people can't understand "proper time, proper place", that people as sexualized animals is not the same as animals as sexualized people (people as sexualized animals is a concept that stumps both zoophiles and moral conservatives for the same reason), and that people don't understand that there is more to life than getting snagged in a go-nowhere "online community" endlessly drawing power animals they are too lazy to internalize.

I'll try and answer most of these tconsidering from reading OP response and have seen his replies in the Fender journals considering he really does'nt understand how fandom work considering there's more than just the furry fandom.

1.  Well for one it can be a lifestyle to some but for most others it's a hobby since there's are artists who do this for a living, suit makers, as well as others who enjoy it. You really seem to be really judgmental from all your questions and yet you fail to understand from other points of view.

2. Well that i've have not seen considering the two conventions i've went to. AC and FCN i've seen no one make their life out of their fetish.

3. Looks like someone has not really been to many cons or gatherings. Though there are quite well know furs that fursuit or have other talents. Considering it's Mascot cosplay like many others who do on anime conventions.

4. Are you really this serious considering anthro is based off humans. You can't have one without the other.

5. I really don't know what to say to this.

6. People are inspired by a lot of things nothing wrong with Otherkin or those things. Basically imagination.

7. When did you get this idea from?

8 & 9. Are you really serious.

For someone who is upset over what is currently happening in the fandom there's not much you can do about or anything considering the adult content since rule 34 always has existed.

 

 

[Little_Dragon]

I really should render an updated version of this animation sometime ....

[FerretSage]

 

If you want to be judgmental I don't think furries are for you.

You say, "judgmental", like it's a bad thing. I want to be judgmental. I want to point at these furries and these men's rights activists and these Anons, Gamergaters, SJWs -- all these little turds -- and scream at them, "WRYYYY???!!!! Why not join forces into one big giant turd?!"

I'll be over here buying some land.

http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/168499/Furries/

 

Edited October 26, 2015 by FerretSage
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[Mikazuki Marazhu]

OP's tears taste so delicious

[Vaer]

[RTDragon]

You say, "judgmental", like it's a bad thing. I want to be judgmental. I want to point at these furries and these men's rights activists and these Anons, Gamergaters, SJWs -- all these little turds -- and scream at them, "WRYYYY???!!!! Why not join forces into one big giant turd?!"

I'll be over here buying some land.

http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/168499/Furries/

Your argument is showing how unhinged you are.

[BagelRabbit]

...It's your professed lack of reading comprehension of my question you bolded that reveals that I have brought out a very hostile animal within you throughout your caustic response and also your attending prurient reasons why. If you had paid more attention in English class, you would have realized I wasn't endorsing the behavior I was questioning. Instead, you were paying too much attention to distance yourself from the behavior mentioned to notice that an appeal to perversion wasn't being made.

Okay, even if I can't disagree with some of your points (in part because I have little idea of what you're getting at), you're clearly pulling a "I'm better at English than you are; therefore, I know more than you about logic(?), I'm more intelligent(??), and you're excessively sexually charged(?!)

But you're clearly using big words that you likely got out of a thesaurus (prurient?!) and making statements that take more than a little decoding to deduce. You might think this makes you look smart, but all it does is make you look like you're trying to outclass people in every way you possibly can. Were you taught in your English class that you're supposed to write in a way that most people understand? Because that's not happening here.

Just my two cents. You may now resume doing whatever you wanted to be doing on this thread.

-bagel

[Kinare]

I feel like some of your questions have an interesting philosophical answer to them, but I don't feel like bothering because many of the other questions are flat out ignorant and almost seem like they're meant to irritate instead of start an intelligent discussion. Furthermore, being in the fandom/whatever you want to call it for as long as you claim, you should know more than you do about the people involved in it. Either you are a regular participant of said extremes yourself (never having seen anything else but them) and that's why you assume we're all like that, or you're just an ignorant outsider who truly does have no idea and only knows what society and possibly strict religion warns about. Regardless of your intentions or level of knowledge about us, I challenge you to post this in the GD-type forum if you really want some answers. Should be a good show.