Vae Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I feel like geno does give us some important bits of characterization, aside from just the two great bossfights, that you don't really experience in other runs. Namely Flowey's motivation for being a morally-depraved shitheel, lacking a soul notwithstanding.Also, it's subtle, but the fact that Undyne uses sheer force of will to stay alive / revive herself, then melts after being beaten, says a lot after you finish True Lab and learn what determination does to a monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggdodger Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I feel like geno does give us some important bits of characterization, aside from just the two great bossfights, that you don't really experience in other runs. Hidden ContentAlright. What about neutral run? Is that worth doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Alright. What about neutral run? Is that worth doing?I don't know what really constitutes a "neutral" run, honestly. I got a few random monster kills in my first playthrough (including a few in Ruins), so I don't know what the real difference is unless you kill a few bosses too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I love hard boss fights!But those bosses are my friends...Why does this existential masterpiece have to exist??? The genocide route is like Pandora's Box. I want to open it just to see what's in there, but there's no closing itJust remember, you can always back up your save but you'll never be able to forget what you did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggdodger Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Just remember, you can always back up your save but you'll never be able to forget what you did.That's the worst part...I'll let it be for now. I'm afraid that I might be adversely affecting a miniature universe with my actions or something. Quantum mechanics or the game is made of high science fantasy technomagic or maybe we're all the gods of our own imaginations. I can't choose which rationale I want to go with, so all three? Regardless, I'm not killing all the monsters. Edited October 23, 2015 by Eggdodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antumbra Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Alright. What about neutral run? Is that worth doing?A neutral run is really any run that isn't the pacifist or genocide route. You can get different ones depending on which bosses you killed/spared. Really it is just a little different ending dialogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Just remember, you can always back up your save but you'll never be able to forget what you did.Well, not actually true. You can delete the other file, too. I'm curious what would happen if you did that half way through a save... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Alright. What about neutral run? Is that worth doing?The neutral ending happens after you beat Flowey. Depending on your actions (mainly who you killed and who you left alive) you get a different phonecall at the end.The relevant characters for this ending are Papyrus, Undyne, Mettaton and Toriel (if I remember correctly).Honestly, compared to the true ending and the genocide ending it's not really worth it in my opinion.The pacifist ending is more rewarding and gives you a TON of backstory and the genocide ending paints a clearer picture about Chara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaer Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I've still yet to play and everyone's talking about their experiences with Undertale while I'm over here like: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Hidden ContentHonestly, compared to the true ending and the genocide ending it's not really worth it in my opinion.Hidden ContentIt should be noted that Mettaton's fate...also determines if Alphys kills herself or not. Edited October 23, 2015 by PastryOfApathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Nearly finished the pacifist run! The legend of Smeef is nearly over... Wait... what? My reaction to all of this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Forgive me Flowey for I have sinned 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Hooray! Joel from Vinesauce has started a very reluctant genocide run! Poor bastard! http://www.twitch.tv/vargskelethor/v/22114186Or on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXVDKW-HpPM Edited October 24, 2015 by Käpt'n 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 You know what's the best part about someone from Vinesauce playing Undertale? It results in tons of fanart on their booru site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) You know what's the best part about someone from Vinesauce playing Undertale? It results in tons of fanart on their booru site!And I accidentally killed Lesser Dog on my current playthrough, forgetting they were a named character D: haha. This is extra relevant to me.H E L P M E Edited October 24, 2015 by ChaosCalix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dijon Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Forgive me Flowey for I have sinnedwhy would you do this ;v; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Browsing through the comic dubs on youtube, some of these are pretty priceless: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Since when were you the one in control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrishaCat Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 Genocide run in a nutshell: Spoilers abound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Finally decided to do a genocide run since I wanted to watch Joel from Vinesauce do it but felt like I needed to "experience" it myself first.That part with Monster Kid holy shit, I wasn't expecting that.Got close to beating Sans so we're almost there baby. Wow I'm awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Finally decided to do a genocide run since I wanted to watch Joel from Vinesauce do it but felt like I needed to "experience" it myself first. Hidden ContentI'm watching the recording right now.He is having a bad time in the bone zone.By the way, is there any Nice Cream Guy/Burgerpants porn yet? :V Those two would be cute together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I'm watching the recording right now.Hidden ContentBy the way, is there any Nice Cream Guy/Burgerpants porn yet? :V Those two would be cute together. Oh boy, imagine Burgerpants' o-face. Actually let's not do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Oh boy, imagine Burgerpants' o-face. Actually let's not do that.Also, I shall call this ship Nicepants. Edited October 25, 2015 by Käpt'n 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I gave into this meme. God I love Papyrus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Genocide run time. For this run, I decided to name my character appropriately.Hitler.I'm already at snowdin and robbed the store. The only real thing that made me feel anything about it so far is when Sans gave me that warning. That genuinely scared the bejesus out of me just from the how subtle it was.edit: killing Papyrus is just depressing because of his optimism. Edited October 25, 2015 by Sar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antumbra Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'm just browsing undertale artwork when I should be sleeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) edit: killing Papyrus is just depressing because of his optimism.That's the beauty of the genocide run. You might go in thinking that it won't be so bad, "they are just characters in a video game!" But Toby wrote the game so well that after killing them you just want to drink yourself into a coma to forget what you have done... Especially after a pacifist run! Edit: By the way, favorite quote from Joel's genocide run, after he got WRECKED by Sans: "Do I really have to fight Sans? Is Sans hard?"At that point I felt sorry for him, he had no idea what he was in for Edited October 26, 2015 by Käpt'n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 That's the beauty of the genocide run. You might go in thinking that it won't be so bad, "they are just characters in a video game!" But Toby wrote the game so well that after killing them you just want to drink yourself into a coma to forget what you have done... Especially after a pacifist run! Edit: By the way, favorite quote from Joel's genocide run, after he got WRECKED by Sans: "Do I really have to fight Sans? Is Sans hard?"At that point I felt sorry for him, he had no idea what he was in for Meh, I stopped caring about it after grinding the waterfalls. Undyne was still pretty easy but I had to use food this time around, having 50+ HP meant nothing with the damage took. Only thing thats annoying is the bullets that move to the opposite direction. Just now I'm grinding Hotlands, which was probably the most fun due to it having the monsters I liked the most.I'm debating working on a route for speedrunning the game. So I'm open to ideas. My favourite one atm involves the spider donuts and cider, but I'll keep it from spoiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissFleece Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Meh, I stopped caring about it after grinding the waterfalls. Undyne was still pretty easy but I had to use food this time around, having 50+ HP meant nothing with the damage took. Only thing thats annoying is the bullets that move to the opposite direction. Just now I'm grinding Hotlands, which was probably the most fun due to it having the monsters I liked the most.I'm debating working on a route for speedrunning the game. So I'm open to ideas. My favourite one atm involves the spider donuts and cider, but I'll keep it from spoiling.Are you hitler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Meh, I stopped caring about it after grinding the waterfalls.Looks like you just couldn't wait to sell your soul, eh? :V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Are you hitler.Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dijon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Meh, I stopped caring about it after grinding the waterfalls. Undyne was still pretty easy but I had to use food this time around, having 50+ HP meant nothing with the damage took. Only thing thats annoying is the bullets that move to the opposite direction. Just now I'm grinding Hotlands, which was probably the most fun due to it having the monsters I liked the most.I'm debating working on a route for speedrunning the game. So I'm open to ideas. My favourite one atm involves the spider donuts and cider, but I'll keep it from spoiling.Using the stick in battle against a dog enemy allows you to spare instantly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Using the stick in battle against a dog enemy allows you to spare instantly.That could probably work for it - I was thinking timewise, it would probably not be a pacifist run. It was designed to take time. The neutral route would make a lot more sense for ease. However, I feel starting of as a genocide then move it back into the neutral route could help, in order to skip puzzles. But I need to look at the sequence before I find a way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Well since i've been seeing the videos as well as crossover fanart. I thought this would be interested to post. http://kirbins.tumblr.com/post/131779316797/this-would-happen-right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) The moment we've all been waiting for! Joel geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetting dunked on! Edited October 26, 2015 by Sar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The moment we've all been waiting for! Joel geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetting dunked on!Hidden ContentHis reactions were priceless during that fight^^Also:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyE0Eu9c5eQAnd how the heck do you post videos in here? O_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) And how the heck do you post videos in here? O_oInsert other media > Insert Image URL; This forces the embed.Also: Edited October 26, 2015 by Sar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vae Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) If we're posting fanart we like, this has been my favorite so far.Spoilers for geno: (also warning for blood)And this:(I don't have the sources, unfortunately, since they were in an imgur album.) Edited October 26, 2015 by Vae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) If we're posting fanart we like, this has been my favorite so far.Spoilers for geno: (also warning for blood)Hidden ContentI just realized Sans was wearing slippers the whole time...wow I'm observant.Wait, holy shit dude could you imagine the level of dunking if he just hauled his lazy ass over the shoe store and bought like some Jordan's or something? Fucker could have ended the fight like literally turn 1 with that level of slammin', Sans you fucking idiot, you could have saved the fucking world you lazy shit. Shit's making me legit steamed. Edited October 26, 2015 by PastryOfApathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) I just realized Sans was wearing slippers the whole time...wow I'm observant.Wait, holy shit dude could you imagine the level of dunking if he just hauled his lazy ass over the shoe store and bought like some Jordan's or something? Fucker could have ended the fight like literally turn 1 with that level of slammin', Sans you fucking idiot, you could have saved the fucking world you lazy shit. Shit's making me legit steamed.He could have saved the world if he just did his job as he was supposed to. Just saying. (if there's other reasons for why he doesn't stop you at the forest, which aren't revealed in Neutral/Pacifist, don't tell me. I haven't finished Pacifist yet) Edited October 26, 2015 by ChaosCalix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He could have saved the world if he just did his job as he was supposed to. Just saying. (if there's other reasons for why he doesn't stop you at the forest, which aren't revealed in Neutral/Pacifist, don't tell me. I haven't finished Pacifist yet)You haven't completed a pacifist or neutral run? At any rate he explains it in an optional scene towards the end, if you've done it then you know what I'm talking about probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 You haven't completed a pacifist or neutral run? At any rate he explains it in an optional scene towards the end, if you've done it then you know what I'm talking about probably.I've finished Neutral twice (hard reset due to an oops.. hah) and am working my way through Pacifist now.Ah... So yeah, that's what I was thinking of. I still stand by my statement, then.I added the extra bit in case more is revealed in a Genocide run on why he didn't stop you earlier, like if he had other motivations besides Toriel asking him to protect you.Also, my "oops" was killing Flowey. I missed his commentary </3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) I've finished Neutral twice (hard reset due to an oops.. hah) and am working my way through Pacifist now. Ah... So yeah, that's what I was thinking of. I still stand by my statement, then.Hidden ContentWell when you fight Sans at the end of a genocide run (which isn't even really a spoiler at this point is it?)...he gives a lot of insight into his character as well as his motivations for most of his behavior in every path while fighting you, and as you'd probably come to expect at this point, it's pretty meta and mindfucky. Eventually he does give a straight answer to your question, which just kinda makes the whole fight and really the game overall more tragic.TL;DR: Bad times for everyone. Edited October 27, 2015 by PastryOfApathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Well when you fight Sans at the end of a genocide run (which isn't even really a spoiler at this point is it?)...Hidden ContentTL;DR: Bad times for everyone. It is for me xPI've been almost religiously avoiding spoilers. I know you fight him, I know what his theme is called, but I've never actually experienced either in any way. If I wasn't going out later today, I'd probably run through my pacifist run today (I COULD finish it off today.. heh) but alas, that isn't an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 It is for me xPI've been almost religiously avoiding spoilers. I know you fight him, I know what his theme is called, but I've never actually experienced either in any way. If I wasn't going out later today, I'd probably run through my pacifist run today (I COULD finish it off today.. heh) but alas, that isn't an option.Oh. Well all I can say is save every really good healing item for the end (instant noodles, butterscotch pie, etc.), and prepare your anus since you're gonna need all the butterscotch-flavored lube you can get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLZerda Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 It is for me xPI've been almost religiously avoiding spoilers. I know you fight him, I know what his theme is called, but I've never actually experienced either in any way. If I wasn't going out later today, I'd probably run through my pacifist run today (I COULD finish it off today.. heh) but alas, that isn't an option.Just a small thing, but it's not Actually San's theme. It's the players theme when San's has to fight the player. At least that's the popular opinion anyway.ALSO here, have a thing. This guy does some awesome voice acting for the skelebros and all the Undertale characters.Personally, I just love the game all the way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just a small thing, but it's not Actually San's theme. It's the players theme when San's has to fight the player. At least that's the popular opinion anyway.ALSO here, have a thing. This guy does some awesome voice acting for the skelebros and all the Undertale characters.Personally, I just love the game all the way around. That voice sounds familiar... haha. Well done though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just pointing this out, Undertale has sold over 200.000 copies on Steam (+/- 11.848) according to SteamSpy. So if we keep in mind that Steam takes a 30% cut from the profits and that Toby is also selling the soundtrack through Steam AND that he is selling DRM free copies of both of them outside of Steam it is pretty safe to assume that he is a millionaire by now, even if he shared some of the profits with those who helped him in some way.I think he earned it! :3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just pointing this out, Undertale has sold over 200.000 copies on Steam (+/- 11.848) according to SteamSpy. So if we keep in mind that Steam takes a 30% cut from the profits and that Toby is also selling the soundtrack through Steam AND that he is selling DRM free copies of both of them outside of Steam it is pretty safe to assume that he is a millionaire by now, even if he shared some of the profits with those who helped him in some way.I think he earned it! :3I wonder if he will buy himself a car similar to Papyrus' bed. That would be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I wonder if he will buy himself a car similar to Papyrus' bed. That would be funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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