Zootopia

[Endless/Nameless]

Well, shit. I was going to see this in 3D tomorrow (tonight?), but when I went to double-check the showtimes, the listing for the 3D one was gone!! I messaged them about it, and they said they had to cancel the 3D showings because their copy of the 3D version was corrupted or something. They won't have it fixed till next week sometime. Well, I've already made the plans, so I guess I just see the normal version. Pretty disappointed tho. I mean, I know the whole 3D thing is mainly just a gimmick, but I was looking forward to it anyway cuz I've never seen a 3D movie.  

[Vitaly]

7 minutes ago, Endless/Nameless said:

Pretty disappointed tho. 

3D in Zootopia is completely useless.

[Newt]

14 minutes ago, Vitaly said:

3D is completely useless.

ftfy

[LazerMaster5]

I saw Zootopia yesterday. I rate it 10/10. It's rare that I come out of a movie actively wanting to watch it a second time.

Gawd, I am such a furfag.

[Troj]

11 hours ago, Strongbob said:

On another note, the movie no longer has a 100% critical review on Rotten Tomatoes.  One critic took offence to the sexualization of some of the animal characters, lol.          

Oh man, someone's going to be sent furry porn courtesy of trolls in the near future, aren't they?

Initially, I was predicting the party-pooper was going to be Armond White, the Troll King of Movie Reviewers.

Diretractor, thanks for the interesting tidbit about the face rigging. I did not realize that! It's one of those detail-things that most of us don't understand, but when it's done correctly, it makes a huge difference.

Re: "Furries be freakin'," I actually think furries are absolutely justified in freaking out about being acknowledged by a major studio or corporate entity, instead of being ignored or shunned. It doesn't mean things like Zootopia are "for" furries, necessarily, but it does show that the furry fandom isn't considered total poison by outsiders.

Re: the movie's exploration of racism (based on what ya'll are saying), I'd say it's perfectly fair to acknowledge that sometimes, stereotypes and generalizations will contain a grain of truth, but there's still more to people than often meets the eye, and people should still be allowed to prove themselves. Sloths will tend to be slower than cheetahs, just as the average Chinese person is going to be shorter than the average Kenyan--but, there will still be notable and impressive intra-group variability, and the fact that you can make generalizations about a group doesn't make group "better" than the other, and it doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions to the rule.

Edited March 5, 2016 by Troj

[Chrysocyon]

6 hours ago, Amiir said:

At this point it seems like every country's getting their own version of the movie's name: Zootopia in the US, Zootropolis in the EU and now Zoopolis in Russia apparently

They also changed the news anchor character in several different countries to a different regional animal in each.  Kind of interesting, but I wonder why they even bother.

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Chrysocyon said:

They also changed the news anchor character in several different countries to a different regional animal in each.  Kind of interesting, but I wonder why they even bother.

 

They did??? If so then that's a nice touch, I find. Useless, but unique. I mean, what other movies did that sort of thing?

[PastryOfApathy]

2 hours ago, Chrysocyon said:

They also changed the news anchor character in several different countries to a different regional animal in each.  Kind of interesting, but I wonder why they even bother.

So they have something to talk about on the director's commentary.

[Troj]

Just saw it!

Very enjoyable film. Not my all-time favorite, but definitely one I'll eagerly re-watch now and again.

The theme/moral was timely, thoughtful, and generally well-executed, I thought. (Incidentally, I'm rather annoyed by some of the reviewers who are sanctimoniously chiding Disney for not executing the moral as flawlessly as they would have, and I was entirely right in predicting that some bigoted nutjobs would screech and fling shit about the movie's message, period. I grow weary of Internet Outrage Culture.)

The animation is as stunning as people say. So many little details!

I found myself really wanting to learn more about the various minor characters and the city's various biomes, which is always a great sign. Would love it if they made a good spinoff TV show, and/or a good, solid sequel.

There's also a subtle-but-hilarious reference to a very popular TV show that I definitely appreciated.

Edited March 5, 2016 by Troj

[TrishaCat]

Just got back from the theaters with one of my friends. I enjoyed it! The model details were phenomenal! 

Although the whole racism in animal world thing is really overdone, and I was disappointed that that's what the film was all about. Still, despite that, I enjoyed it. I liked how they tied in previous things mentioned and plot points later in the film, and I was glad that the film wasn't just about Judy finding the otter. Everything was SOOO well written and pulled together nicely. 

[DrGravitas]

aaaaand now I've seen it twice.

 

Ok, seriously though my family unexpectedly wanted to see a movie after the dinner for celebrating my recent birthday an guess which one was the only movie that didn't have almost 2 hours before the next showing? Not that I was complaining...

[Troj]

Without spoiling too much, I also loved Nick's assessment of timber wolves. Not only is that how a fox probably would see wolves, but it playfully bursts the bubble of a lot of wolf fans who maybe take themselves and their totem critter a bit too seriously.

[Endless/Nameless]

So, I have seen it, and loved it. I had a quite a good time.

The one issue I had with it tho is that I feel it was just a little too fast-paced. They really did create a fascinating world with so much to see and so many little details to look at, but I felt like everything went by too fast to really appreciate/explore it fully. But, I know it's a kids movie, and they've gotta keep the little snots from getting bored, so i can't really blame them for keeping things tight.

Yes, there was the whole racism spiel and all, but they had a decent enough metaphor to work with so I really didn't mind.

Oh, and I really wanted to see more of Finnick!! So many good characters!! Thumbs up, would see again.

[Imperial Impact]

22 hours ago, Astus said:

good morals

 

[Toshabi]

ProTip: If you ignore the political spin of Zootopia, you'll enjoy it 100x more.

[Kellie Gator]

41 minutes ago, Toshabi said:

ProTip: If you ignore the political spin of Zootopia, you'll enjoy it 100x more.

Isn't that kinda like saying that if you ignore all the friendship stuff in My Little Pony you'll enjoy it more?

[Misomie]

I watched it on launch day and it was adorable~ 

I was actually able to avoid all trailers (the only ones I watched were the teaser and slith one) so the plot and jokes weren' spoiled at all. <3

The trailers that aired did play two that I was also avoiding spoilers to though. Uuuug, I was doing so well at staying blind and then BLAM! Whole plot ruined. :K

Probably going to go see it again so I can pay closer attention to the designs and whatnot.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Toshabi said:

ProTip: If you ignore the political spin of Zootopia, you'll enjoy it 100x more.

What political spin? You mean the whole racism thing?

 

Though now that I think about it there was one bit that made me turn up my nose, and that is when the fat leopard guy meets the rabbit for the first time. He says she's cute and she basically goes on about if it's a predator saying it that it's inappropriate somehow...? What the fuck was that bullshit about. I really didn't get the reasoning behind that

[Endless/Nameless]

One of the things I really enjoyed is the way they kept everything to scale. I mean, they coulda went the easy route and made all the characters about the same average size, but it was cool how they actually made the rabbits rabbit-sized and the wolves wolf-size etc

1 hour ago, Amiir said:

Though now that I think about it there was one bit that made me turn up my nose, and that is when the fat leopard guy meets the rabbit for the first time. He says she's cute and she basically goes on about if it's a predator saying it that it's inappropriate somehow...? What the fuck was that bullshit about. I really didn't get the reasoning behind that

Yes, that was the dumbest moment of the movie in my opinion. Thankfully that's as bad as it got tho. 

[Strongbob]

2 hours ago, Amiir said:

Though now that I think about it there was one bit that made me turn up my nose, and that is when the fat leopard guy meets the rabbit for the first time. He says she's cute and she basically goes on about if it's a predator saying it that it's inappropriate somehow...? What the fuck was that bullshit about. I really didn't get the reasoning behind that

I think it was supposed to draw a parallel between another species calling a bunny cute and someone calling a black person a nigger.  It's ok within your species (race) but not really for other animals (people) to use.    I thought it helped set up some of the other themes of the movie.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Strongbob said:

I think it was supposed to draw a parallel between another species calling a bunny cute and someone calling a black person a nigger.

But they're two completely different things: one is a compliment, the other is an insult

[Strongbob]

15 minutes ago, Amiir said:

But they're two completely different things: one is a compliment, the other is an insult

Are you sure about that?  I know several girls that take great offence at being called 'cute'.  The actual point here is that some words that can be completely acceptable in some contexts can become offensive, rude, or just patronizing in others, even if you didn't mean it 'that way'.  Personally I don't think anyone should be offended by the use of any particular word, but some cultures see specific words from very different perspectives based on personal or historical traditions.    

[diretractor]

1 hour ago, Strongbob said:

I think it was supposed to draw a parallel between another species calling a bunny cute and someone calling a black person a nigger.

That's what I got out of it too, but the parallel didn't work. There's a few other points in the story where they tried to make satire of other real life racial issues, but when it was applied to the world of Zootopia it didn't make a lot of sense. I'm just going to say it, satire is not one of Disney's strong points as a community of storytellers. Satire is really hard. It can easily come off as didactic, and if you are going to do it, it absolutely must make perfect sense in the world you built. Aside from a few of those missteps, the main conflict of the story was done very well in that regard. It DID make sense in their world and had implications in ours. (I say that it made sense in how characters reacted to it, but there's one key mechanism of the plot that just wouldn't have worked as depicted. No, I'm not going to spoil it.) I've found it easier to write good satire by focusing on the ridiculousness of human behavior in new situations than merely taking something specific out of our world and only swapping the words.

[Troj]

Yeah, I'd say it was partly a sly nod to white people saying "nigga," and partly a commentary on when someone in "the majority" compliments the member of a minority group in a way that either could be construed as backhanded or condescending, or as invoking common stereotypes (even positive ones).

Speaking of Clawhauser, it occurred to me that his character is also a very subtle illustration of how social privilege can give otherwise-average-or-mediocre people a boost. Clawhauser is a fat (and certainly adorable) cheetah, but a cheetah nonetheless, so, he still gets to work at the police department--albeit at the front desk. He's probably caught ample shit over the years for being fat and schlubby, but he's never gotten shit for not being the right species for the job itself.

I really would've liked for them to have developed Clawhauser's character more. He could've become a real ally-on-the-inside to Nick and Judy.

Oh, and definitely was curious about Finnick, too!

36 minutes ago, diretractor said:

 I'm just going to say it, satire is not one of Disney's strong points as a community of storytellers. Satire is really hard.

Agreed.

Satire is also hard for the powerful and privileged to pull off in earnest, least of all because it potentially requires one to take the piss out of oneself, or at least critique or examine the forces and structures underlying one's power and privilege.

Disney has limited patience and tolerance when it comes to being made fun of, or genuinely making fun of itself.

I already have a rough idea for the sequel!

Obviously, Zootopia uses a lot of energy to maintain its various biomes. What if its energy consumption, waste management, and/or resource use negatively affected a neighboring island nation of reptiles, who then began to immigrate to Zootopia to escape environmental devastation? What if all of the mammals of Zootopia collectively flipped their shit over these reptile immigrants?

What if a reptile was accused of trying to assassinate Mayor Lionheart, but Judy and Nick smelled a (literal or figurative) rat, and set out to exonerate the framed reptile, with the help of another reptile?

What if a neighboring nation of birds happened to be at war with the reptiles, and was putting pressure on Zootopia to reject reptilian refugees?

Rush Limbaugh's NIPPLES would BURST INTO FLAME from sheer RAGE.

 

Edited March 6, 2016 by Troj

[diretractor]

15 minutes ago, Strongbob said:

The actual point here is that some words that can be completely acceptable in some contexts can become offensive, rude, or just patronizing in others, even if you didn't mean it 'that way'.

We talked about that at work. As an exercise we had a "Fixing Zootopia" session to see if they made any mistakes in world building that might also be in our project.

If they wanted to make that scene work without changing it, there should have been a scene prior to that depicting how rabbits would have used that word in an acceptable way but also why it's offensive to them if other animals do it. It tied into the problem I had with some of the scenes in the trailer, and the entirety of the FIRST teaser trailer. The teaser objectified the characters by communicating how cute they and that you should watch it because they are animals, and didn't focus on the character's conflicts: you know, story.

What would have worked is if the term "cute" was a pejorative term used by larger creatures to refer to smaller creatures in general. They are cute because they are small and we as a culture they have to go out of our way to make little doors and little tubes for them to travel in. Why? Because it the right thing to do, and also it's fun to watch them scurry about. All well intentioned stuff. One scenario we thought of is how larger creatures could simply lift building materials for a rodent construction project, instead of the rodents needing to use a crane. The affect of this situation would be intensified if a larger passerby just decided to help them out to be nice and feel good. "Let me help you with those." Crane Operator, obviously annoyed, "No thanks, we got this." The larger creature insists, and perhaps uses the term cute to refer to their in-progress building or the size of their crane, pissing off the crane operator. The pride of wanting to be self sufficient would create tension between smaller and larger animals, and if they showed rodents cringing at the world "cute," bam, you've just communicated why they hate that word and more importantly the context behind it. Put that scene right after Judy arrives at Zootopia and before her first day at ZPD, change the dialog just a little bit in the Clawhauser enters the story and that scene would have been fixed. It would also have communicated that not everything is hunky-dory in Zootopia with species relations earlier in the story.

[Troj]

4 minutes ago, diretractor said:

What would have worked is if the term "cute" was a pejorative term used by larger creatures to refer to smaller creatures in general. They are cute because they are small and we as a culture they have to go out of our way to make little doors and little tubes for them to travel in. Why? Because it the right thing to do, and also it's fun to watch them scurry about. All well intentioned stuff. One scenario we thought of is how larger creatures could simply lift building materials for a rodent construction project, instead of the rodents needing to use a crane. The affect of this situation would be intensified if a larger passerby just decided to help them out to be nice and feel good. "Let me help you with those." Crane Operator, obviously annoyed, "No thanks, we got this." The larger creature insists, and perhaps uses the term cute to refer to their in-progress building or the size of their crane, pissing off the crane operator. The pride of wanting to be self sufficient would create tension between smaller and larger animals, and if they showed rodents cringing at the world "cute," bam, you've just communicated why they hate that word and more importantly the context behind it. Put that scene right after Judy arrives at Zootopia and before her first day at ZPD, change the dialog just a little bit in the Clawhauser enters the story and that scene would have been fixed. It would also have communicated that not everything is hunky-dory in Zootopia with species relations earlier in the story.

Oh, beautiful--and, you've also brought in disability now, too, since many people with disabilities really resent people "helping" them in ways that turn out to be intrusive and patronizing.

I really like the idea of finding more ways to convey "benevolent" stereotyping and exclusion.

Edited March 6, 2016 by Troj

[Strongbob]

Well you and the rest of furfags have done it, Zootopia topped the weekend box office at $73.7 and is the best ever opening for a Disney animated film.  Considering how well the movie has been received and how timely the themes are (how can we get Donald Trump to say something about banning predators?), I'm predicting the film will be a big success for Disney.  Plus the fact that the movie only scratched the surface of exploring the new Zootopia world and introduced a good variety of characters, the chances of a Zootopia sequel are probably quite high (2ootopia?).  So is it too early to start making guesses as to the theme of a sequel? Probably, but why not, because they may have already set up the next movie.  Based on how the movie ends, whats the chance that a sequel could center around a taboo romantic relationship between predator and prey?  That could make things interesting.  

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Strongbob said:

Are you sure about that?  I know several girls that take great offence at being called 'cute'.   

Yep, positive. If one can't take a compliment there must be something very wrong with them. People fuss too much over harmless comments, they overthink, see non-existant implications, things that aren't even there, then they get ''offended'' but it's only their fault for looking at it that way. If I express a compliment to a fellow western and if I express it with good intentions, I don't have to worry about anything. Never in my life has anyone ever gotten offended for me complimenting them

[Guest]

Mmmh, now that I think about it there would be one case in which what you said would apply. If I went to an exotic country, say, Japan, then I would watch what I say and be careful at giving what I, a western, perceive as a compliment since our cultures are so different and I have no idea how they would take it. In such a scenario, your statement has solid truth to it and I would definitely agree but here in the West? Nah, unless the person involved is a foreigner from a totally different cultural environment 'n stuff, of course

Edited March 6, 2016 by Guest

[Imperial Impact]

1 hour ago, Strongbob said:

Well you and the rest of furfags have done it, Zootopia topped the weekend box office at $73.7 and is the best ever opening for a Disney animated film.  Considering how well the movie has been received and how timely the themes are (how can we get Donald Trump to say something about banning predators?), I'm predicting the film will be a big success for Disney.  Plus the fact that the movie only scratched the surface of exploring the new Zootopia world and introduced a good variety of characters, the chances of a Zootopia sequel are probably quite high (2ootopia?).  So is it too early to start making guesses as to the theme of a sequel? Probably, but why not, because they may have already set up the next movie.  Based on how the movie ends, whats the chance that a sequel could center around a taboo romantic relationship between predator and prey?  That could make things interesting.  

Well seeing the fact that Wreck it Ralph is getting it's own sequel (Jesus Christ why?) I don't see why this movie shouldn't get one too.

[Strongbob]

1 hour ago, Amiir said:

Mmmh, now that I think about it there would be one case in which what you said would apply. If I went to an exotic country, say, Japan, then I would watch what I say and be careful at giving what I, a western, perceive as a compliment since our cultures are so different and I have no idea how they would take it. In such a scenario, your statement has solid truth to it and I would definitely agree but here in the West? Nah, unless the person involved is a foreigner from a totally different cultural environment 'n stuff, of course

This is why humanity has used allegory and animal totems since the beginning of time to help explain difficult issues, it lets your view issues from a completely different perspective.  What we are talking about now is exactly why race relations are so difficult, because one group will take offence at something another group did, even if that group meant no offence to begin with.  Then one group is labeled as 'intensive' and the other group is labeled as 'overreactive' and someone ends up being lynched.  You really need to study these groups from the outside to get an unbiased understanding of the issues.   

So why does Judy take offence at being called 'cute'?  Unfortunately the film doesn't give us much to go on here, but we can make some educated guesses.  If you read diretractor's response above he pretty much lays it out.  Maybe the bunny population is called cute constantly by outsiders to trivialize their efforts, or maybe they are called cute because they are small and seemingly helpless, maybe it's because they are perceived as weak and timid, maybe they seem infantile to outsiders who call them 'cute'.  After a lifetime of being called 'cute' for any of these reasons Judy would have become sensitive to the how the word was used to demean and trivialize her entire population.  In this way a word which we all see as a complement becomes an offense.    To her the word may represent weakness, fear, and helplessness.  From that perspective it's not surprising she would be sensitive to its use given her goals to succeed and be strong and self-reliant.  So even if you meant to complement her by calling her 'cute', she may not perceive it that way based on her past experiences.  This is a root of a lot of racial and cultural tensions everywhere.  

[Guest]

People are oversensitive, that's all there is to it

[Strongbob]

10 minutes ago, Amiir said:

People are oversensitive, that's all there is to it

Some people are too sensitive, but other people are too dismissive of the challenges and discrimination that some groups face.  

[LazerMaster5]

On the r/furry subreddit, there has been an influx of new furries due to Zootopia. Prepare to see fandom growth. I really don't know what to think about that.

[Imperial Impact]

11 minutes ago, LazerMaster5 said:

r/furry subreddit,

 

[Luca]

It's winning me over. I can't stop myself from going tonight...

 

I am going to love this, I am furry trash

[Rabbit Head]

I just came from from Zootopia... My god, good fucking movie.

REALLY good fucking movie, like, Out of all the recent 3D disney movies Disney's been doing seen 2010, this one is now my new favorite. This is the second time I saw a movie in theatres and wanted to go back in and see it again. (First was Deadpool)

Sorry, Wreck It Ralph. You've been replaced. 

[Half-Note]

I haven't seen it yet.

But I wonder what the furry-to-child ratio must've been on the opening night.

Edited March 8, 2016 by Half-Note

[Mentova]

My sister and I saw it tonight and we both loved it. 10/10 would cuddle all the animals.

[Endless/Nameless]

I've noticed theres a lot of people already speculating on possible sequels. Being the snob that i am, I'm not a big fan of sequels and the franchisation of every cash cow; but there's one big reason in particular why I wouldn't want to see a direct sequel of this movie:

 

Spoiler

I wouldn't want to see Nick as a cop. Just....no. It doesn't fit his character at all; I can't believe they went that route with the story. He's funner as the shyster he is. I loved the movie, but that bit of plot was one of the very few things that bugged me about it.

 

Anyone else feel that way?

Edited March 10, 2016 by Endless/Nameless

[Vallium]

We're really arguing over a cute bunny now?

You guys take a kids movie too seriously

Edited March 10, 2016 by WolfNightV4X1

[Endless/Nameless]

1 minute ago, Rhíulchabán said:

Ohhhh, I forgot to mention! It is totally my headcanon that Zootopia is a farrrr offf sequel to Disney's Robin Hood!

Hmmm, I'd like to hear more of this theory. I guess Robin Hood could have taken place in the same universe..... Wow, that is interesting to consider!!

1 minute ago, Rhíulchabán said:

Now if we can just explain why there were no avians/lizards in Zootopia...

I remember wondering if they'd do anything interesting with birds in the movie, so I was surprised when I realized there wasn't any. But I'm guessing they put so much work into the fur animation engine that they didn't have time to put the same amount of effort into feathers/scales. 

[Endless/Nameless]

4 minutes ago, Rhíulchabán said:

I would have loved to see some well done animated avians! ;-;

Me too. Would have been cute. How they would have addressed the issue of their size/scale and flight would have been interesting too.

1 minute ago, Rhíulchabán said:

Back to the Robin Hood Theory though, I think it really could work in a way! I mean, think about it, Zootopia was the first city formed as a shared "civilized" place for all animals, but it couldn't have started all highly technological! It must have started out in ancient times for that to be true, this would imply the animals have been living and working together for a very long time as "evolved" members of their species. They would have had to go through levels of technology just like humans, meaning they had a sort of "medieval" period, which would be perfect for Robing Hood. They also never really imply that the world of Zootopia isn't alternate Earth, so it isn't far fetched to believe that somewhere in the world of Zootopia a "Zootopia England" existed and housed Fox Robin Hood and King John!

I approve of this theory.

[Derin Darkpaw]

46 minutes ago, Rhíulchabán said:

Back to the Robin Hood Theory though, I think it really could work in a way! I mean, think about it, Zootopia was the first city formed as a shared "civilized" place for all animals, but it couldn't have started all highly technological! It must have started out in ancient times for that to be true, this would imply the animals have been living and working together for a very long time as "evolved" members of their species. They would have had to go through levels of technology just like humans, meaning they had a sort of "medieval" period, which would be perfect for Robing Hood. They also never really imply that the world of Zootopia isn't alternate Earth, so it isn't far fetched to believe that somewhere in the world of Zootopia a "Zootopia England" existed and housed Fox Robin Hood and King John!

The theory is interesting, but it carries with it some startling implications.  Like what happened to the birds and snakes that we saw we in Robin Hood?  Given that one of the topics that Zootopia tackles is racism the answer to that question would probably be genocide.

[Strongbob]

9 hours ago, Derin Darkpaw said:

The theory is interesting, but it carries with it some startling implications.  Like what happened to the birds and snakes that we saw we in Robin Hood?  Given that one of the topics that Zootopia tackles is racism the answer to that question would probably be genocide.

I've got to agree here, it would be fun to have a connection between the worlds, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I had to go out last night and see the movie again, just cuz.  My new favorite line from the film, "When do you NOT need a fox Taser?"  I may have to make a shirt with that saying and wear it to a con. 

[Strongbob]

 

Well it's been a week, ZT is still on top of the Box Office, and a search of the news returned no overtly negative articles about the furry fandom in connection with the movie. I did find a hilarious article in Forbes about Disney's not-so-subtle marketing to the furry community.  Maybe we will get through this with our fur intact.

Forbes-

"But the marketing campaign for Zootopia took it one step further into the wholly unconventional. While the approach it took with marketing to millennials was creative, the desire to market to that demographic is a no-brainer; it’s the demographic virtually every brand targets. Where Zootopia‘s marketing went off-script, some might even say weird, is that it marketed to the Furry community. For those of you unaware of this particular subculture, suffice it to say, it’s a fandom that’s obsessed with anthropomorphic animal characters from fiction, often dressing as them and roleplaying their parts at conventions – and, yes, for a faction of the community, there is definitely a fetishized sexual component to it.

Weird? Definitely. Effective? Also definitely. It was rather genius on Disney’s part, marketing directly to a demographic that will certainly, at least a fair portion of it, be sexually attracted to your main character – even if that main character is a 2D, fictional, animated character. It’s worth pointing out that the main character of Zootopia, Nick Wilde (voiced by Jason Bateman), is an anthropomorphic fox that might as well just be the modern day version of Disney’s vulpine Robin Hood, a character that already enjoys wild popularity among Furries.

At least one marketing agency working with Disney on Zootopia reached out directly to the Furrie community, in particular the Furry meetup group Furlife. The campaign encouraged members of the group to upload photos of themselves in their chosen fursuits (animal costumes in layman’s terms) and include the movie’s hashtag in exchange for free stuff from the movie.

If the above two paragraphs felt weird to read in conjunction with Disney, trust me, they felt even weirder to write. Yet it was effective. Furries started speculating the film was secretly made specifically for them, even organizing movie viewing parties and meetups for opening weekend."

 

 

 

[Troj]

A few articles I found were slightly snarky, and just had to bring up the sex connection, but nothing I came across was overtly negative.

As usual, don't ever read the comments.

 

[Strongbob]

4 minutes ago, Troj said:

A few articles I found were slightly snarky, and just had to bring up the sex connection, but nothing I came across was overtly negative.

As usual, don't ever read the comments.

 

 

I also find it hilarious that Forbes basically suggested that marketing to furries, even to the sexual aspect, was "effective" and "genius".  LOL

[PastryOfApathy]

Well second weekend at theaters and its still been sold out pretty much all day at the place I work at. Ironically the day it was the least crowded I can remember was the day it came out.

9 minutes ago, Troj said:

A few articles I found were slightly snarky, and just had to bring up the sex connection, but nothing I came across was overtly negative.

Well like it or not, sex is kind of a huge part of furfaggotry. Like it's impossible to deny unless you're a delusional shill like Uncle Kage or something.

[Troj]

4 minutes ago, PastryOfApathy said:

Well second weekend at theaters and its still been sold out pretty much all day at the place I work at. Ironically the day it was the least crowded I can remember was the day it came out.

Well like it or not, sex is kind of a huge part of furfaggotry. Like it's impossible to deny unless you're a delusional shill like Uncle Kage or something.

Though, I'd say the sex bit is often awkwardly shoehorned into articles and news bites in a manner that comes across as passive aggressive and/or as desperately trawling for shares and clicks.

I'd actually be interested to read or watch something thoughtful and intelligent about how Disney intends to navigate its furry fandom ties in light of all of the fandom's porn and such.