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1 minute ago, Battlechili said:

I'd figure that's a certainty. Unfortunately more than likely more theaters will probably allow those furries into the theater and make it harder to see the screen for those behind them. Or just make people nearby uncomfortable. I seem to recall in the past for movie airings people actually PLANNED to go to these theaters wearing such suits. Not sure what became of those movies or what movies I remember seeing that for.

I doubt it.

I remember seeing loads of pics of theaters explicitly banning costumes and props at showings of Star Wars and I doubt they'd make an exception for Freddy McFurfag and his murrsuit. Especially after that one theater shooting, cinemas are crazy paranoid about weirdos in disguise.

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I'm actually really excited about this movie! For a while I wanted to write a story series where it involved furries, but actually drew upon their animal sides and how that would affect their life and stuff, so this is going to be really, really, really interesting to see. I'm more interested in the universe they've created xD

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Whilst shopping today i came to a rather poorly set out Disney shelf.12714171_940657249358618_1994639895_n.jp

The lower part of the shelf has 2 more frozen books on it and 3 Little mermaids (a bunch are flat out missing from the display shelf) but more importantly all these books seemed to have the plots set from the movies from what i skimmed so...12722014_940657146025295_755431773_n.thu

Yup. For $5 i could spoil the entire plot to the movie before it is even out! I might even go back and buy it honestly the style of these books was rather good (i mean Disney so go figure)

 

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^^^^I wonder who Doug is.

I'm really liking how the characters are clearly "species aware." I find that sort of thing to be much more interesting than when animal characters are basically just fuzzy people.

Besides giving characters opportunities to play around with species expectations and stereotypes, means that you can interpret some of the dialogue as sly commentary on racial and other issues. ("A bunny can call another bunny cute, but when another animal does it..." "I think he just wanted the sheep vote.")

This means that (calling it now) there will be people accusing Zootopia of having an "SJW agenda" or being "progressive propaganda," once it comes out.

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Huh. I just noticed that the area code for Doug is 805. That used to be the area code Cal Arts had before Valencia was assigned the 661 area code. I guess someone working on the film was at Cal Arts during that time period.

The species awareness thing is something I'm disappointed about. Remember that "objectifying the animal characters" rant I had? That's my opinion on it. However, I think the writers were going more the route of having the reactions of certain characters be the vehicle for how the audience reacts to this world (which again, I'm disappointed by). It's a similar device to what is used in a lot of satire: have one character, usually the Straight Man / Every Man character reacting the way the audience would react to an insane world. But here it's, "Oh, look how cute," "Look how fluffy," reactions, only caring about the character's exterior.

Working in story has ruined me; I read way too much into this. Trying to be fair though, having these characters focusing on people's outer appearance is what the movie is about.

As for the SJW agenda thing, if someone has issue with that being the theme of the movie they can go put their head in a pig. Ridding society of racism and prejudice isn't some progressive propaganda, it should be everyone's agenda. I will say that with the exception of some very specific situations, and some very clever world building, the only valid reason to put animal characters in a story besides a visual gimmick, is to be able to tell stories about race without putting too fine a point on it, and to be able to comment on racial issues in truly broad terms without it being about blacks, whites, or whatever, which can cause certain people -- usually those who really need to see it the most -- to dismiss the story instantly without giving it a chance.

On 2/11/2016 at 7:23 AM, Troj said:

Technically, this clip spoils the outcome of one of the clips in the trailer, aye?

Yes it did. It strongly hints at how they get out of one situation though, not the actual conflict of the story.

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9 hours ago, diretractor said:

Huh. I just noticed that the area code for Doug is 805. That used to be the area code Cal Arts had before Valencia was assigned the 661 area code. I guess someone working on the film was at Cal Arts during that time period.

Good eye! It's clearly some kind of in-joke.

9 hours ago, diretractor said:

The species awareness thing is something I'm disappointed about. Remember that "objectifying the animal characters" rant I had? That's my opinion on it. However, I think the writers were going more the route of having the reactions of certain characters be the vehicle for how the audience reacts to this world (which again, I'm disappointed by). It's a similar device to what is used in a lot of satire: have one character, usually the Straight Man / Every Man character reacting the way the audience would react to an insane world. But here it's, "Oh, look how cute," "Look how fluffy," reactions, only caring about the character's exterior.

Working in story has ruined me; I read way too much into this. Trying to be fair though, having these characters focusing on people's outer appearance is what the movie is about.

You make a very good point about lazy humor being about just nudging the audience and saying, "Don't we agree, eh?"

But, I do like how it actually matters what species someone is. I'm not nearly as much of a stickler for this as Fred Patten is, but it is a bit disappointing when anthro characters are just humans in fursuits, and whether a character is an otter or a bear is basically meaningless and irrelevant.

9 hours ago, diretractor said:

As for the SJW agenda thing, if someone has issue with that being the theme of the movie they can go put their head in a pig.

I feel bad for the pig in that case.

Seriously, wholeheartedly agreed. It's one thing to comment or complain if that sort of theme is done poorly or anviliciously, but my feeling is that anyone who actually objects to that theme needs to either join the 21st century or go piss up a tree.

9 hours ago, diretractor said:

 I will say that with the exception of some very specific situations, and some very clever world building, the only valid reason to put animal characters in a story besides a visual gimmick, is to be able to tell stories about race without putting too fine a point on it, and to be able to comment on racial issues in truly broad terms without it being about blacks, whites, or whatever, which can cause certain people -- usually those who really need to see it the most -- to dismiss the story instantly without giving it a chance.
 

Absolutely. Animal characters are absolutely great for commenting on human nature, problems, and foibles without coming in through the front door, so to speak. You can use these sorts of characters to get people to reflect on lessons or themes they'd normally reject out of hand. Exactly right.

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>Be le me

>Have free movie tickets due to working at the theatre

>Mention to my sister that I'm gonna see furfagtopia since why the hell not

>"Wait Pastry, isn't that that furry movie? I'm sure they're probably freaking out over it lol"

>No one knows I'm a furry so all I can do is laugh sorta uncomfortably

>le spaghetti meme

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Honestly, the hype in the fandom has ruined this for me, kind of like mass media and merchandising ruined Frozen for me. This isn't a movie I'll actively seek to watch. Sure, I'll watch it if someone puts it on, because it's in front of my face, and maybe I'll like it, but the hype has just...fuckin' slaughtered it for me. Doesn't help that's all my local furry group is going on about, seeings as how they got permission to suit at one of the showings. Here's hoping they got the very back row so people can see over their heads.

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I've been enjoying the forums for a while now but had to register just to chime in on this topic.  I'm both anxiously awaiting and dreading this film.  Luckily I have a daughter so I don't even need to make an excuse to go see it.  I just checked show times and noticed that Zootopia currently has a 100% POSITIVE CRITIC REVIEW RATING.  You read that right boys and girls, 100% positive review from the professional critics.  Let the furry apocalypse begin!

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2 hours ago, Strongbob said:

I've been enjoying the forums for a while now but had to register just to chime in on this topic.  I'm both anxiously awaiting and dreading this film.  Luckily I have a daughter so I don't even need to make an excuse to go see it.  I just checked show times and noticed that Zootopia currently has a 100% POSITIVE CRITIC REVIEW RATING.  You read that right boys and girls, 100% positive review from the professional critics.  Let the furry apocalypse begin!

100% positively paid for + ratings

Not sorry, but anything at 100% probably has something a little more going on behind the scene.

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I'm sure it will be good, possibly even great.  With these types of reviews it could be a big thing for Disney.  However, the semi-annanimity we enjoy in the furry community could quickly become a thing of the past.  We better pull our pants up and clean our rooms because we may be in a very uncomfortable spotlight soon.   What's the chance that we can clean up the entire furry community in the next 48 hours?  Ha!

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2 hours ago, Strongbob said:

I'm both anxiously awaiting and dreading this film.  Luckily I have a daughter so I don't even need to make an excuse to go see it.

That is precisely why we've been keeping such a close eye on what Disney and the furry fandom has been doing. There are people who are genuinely afraid to see a movie that is by all accounts a family movie. That sucks. We are very curious to see what will happen with merchandise after the movie is released.

Disney will have an easier time dealing with this because they already have tons of history behind them and are good about keeping their brand promises, but for studios that haven't been around as long it's always been a lot harder.

If people are wondering why those outside of the furry fandom dislike furries as much as they do, especially people in the animation community, it is because what furries do puts a stigma on things that WE like, things that we have spent thousands of hours working on, things that we are trying to make a living doing.

My hope is that people will realize that reputation of furries does not just hurt furries, it hurts the rest us too.

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9 minutes ago, Endless/Nameless said:

Think I'm gonna be taking my sister to see this on Saturday. Do I feel like furry trash? ummmmm....yes. 

Think of it like this; at least you're watching something mainstream and not that dreadful (but hilarious) David Copperfield movie.

Yes, someone made a David Copperfield movie with furries.

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16 hours ago, Kellie Gator said:

Seeing this movie tomorrow with a bunch of furfags at a con, I'll make sure to notify if I catch anyone fapping to Judy Hopps. :U

No one will be fapping to her. It'll be toward Nick, because he'a a he. And also a fox.

There are so many articles about how furries are misunderstood and the sexual stuff is a minority. Um nope. The old articles were right. Furry is largely about sex, or rather secual identity. Disney opened a can of worms catering to furries, watch them backpedal and start disowning the fandom.

We may start seeing Cease and Desists on fan porn. 

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29 minutes ago, PastryOfApathy said:

I still don't understand where this whole idea of this thing specifically targeting furries comes from.

And then of course there was THIS, and if that doesn't scream "FURRIES" at 9,001 decibels, I don't know what does.

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42 minutes ago, yell0wf0x said:

 

 

There is literally nothing there that indicates it's "for furries". I literally watched it twice just to make sure.

27 minutes ago, Endless/Nameless said:

And then of course the was THIS, and if that doesn't scream "FURRIES" at 9,001 decibels, I don't know what does.

Furfags didn't invent the word anthropomorphic.

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Holy shiz guys its just a movie with animals damn.

'anthropomorphic' just means 'with human shape' that implies anything and not just animal-people, furries may have adopted it but its a common word.

Some of the people if not most involved were probably very aware of or even furries themselves, I mean, theyre people who like to do animal-people art and in that culture everyone is aware of the obvious overlap into the furry fandom. It was obviously made with furry traits but not in such a way that its 'for furries by furries' in some extreme sense, anyone can watch it. People dont actually need to flip their lid over a simple disney movie being revolutionary in the furry industry as if previous ones hadnt been already

Looking at you Robin Hood

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4 minutes ago, Calemeyr said:

Disney supposedly emailed furlife to use the zootopia hashtag with pics of them in fursuit at the theater.

Where they fursuits of the characters, or just generic suits? Since if it's the latter I would assume it was just an ill-advised idea from so PR guy who simply saw a couple cute suits and never made the furry connection.

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23 hours ago, diretractor said:

That is precisely why we've been keeping such a close eye on what Disney and the furry fandom has been doing. There are people who are genuinely afraid to see a movie that is by all accounts a family movie. That sucks. We are very curious to see what will happen with merchandise after the movie is released.

Disney will have an easier time dealing with this because they already have tons of history behind them and are good about keeping their brand promises, but for studios that haven't been around as long it's always been a lot harder.

If people are wondering why those outside of the furry fandom dislike furries as much as they do, especially people in the animation community, it is because what furries do puts a stigma on things that WE like, things that we have spent thousands of hours working on, things that we are trying to make a living doing.

My hope is that people will realize that reputation of furries does not just hurt furries, it hurts the rest us too.

Sounds to me like he's glad he has an excuse to see this family-friendly movie in the theater because he has a kid. If so, I can relate. I'd rather watch "kids movies" with family than as a lone adult. There's a level of awkwardness involved with going to a movie when one isn't the target demographic. Few people know what furries are, and even fewer care, so that wouldn't be a factor for me.

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3 hours ago, Calemeyr said:

No one will be fapping to her. It'll be toward Nick, because he'a a he. And also a fox.

There are so many articles about how furries are misunderstood and the sexual stuff is a minority. Um nope. The old articles were right. Furry is largely about sex, or rather secual identity. Disney opened a can of worms catering to furries, watch them backpedal and start disowning the fandom.

We may start seeing Cease and Desists on fan porn. 

If this happens it'll be like Warner Bros. attack on Looney Tunes fanart (and porn) in the 90's all over again.

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