Attacks on Brussles

[willow]

2 minutes ago, ArielMT said:

The Lord's Resistance Army and the IRA are from the Middle Ages, donchano. :V

file this under reasons why I'm not a history major :v

I guess I missed that day of class

1 minute ago, Gamedog said:

[QUOTES]

 

you're the one who brought it up though..

[Gamedog]

On 2016-03-22 at 2:48 PM, Derin Darkpaw said:

but do people really think that every Christian completely ignores the Old Testament?  I mean Young Earth Creationists are a thing and many of them are Christians that got their belief from a literal reading of the Book of Genesis.  Also in the United States there are a large number of attempts by Christian groups to get the Ten Commandments put in front of Courthouses and that is from the Book of Exodus.  Both of those books are Old Testament yet it seems that there are groups of Christians that attempt to make political and societal changes based on them.  I don't know why they would do that if they honestly believed that none of those books were relevant any more.

 

On 2016-03-23 at 9:35 PM, Crazy Lee said:

You mean the way CHRISTIANS use the Old Testament to justify hate towards homosexuals? If they never followed the Old Testament, why do they constantly quote Leviticus and Sodom and Gomorrah when they're condemning gays? Hmm?
 

 

On 2016-03-23 at 11:46 PM, evan said:

too lazy to find actual numbers for immigration, but willing to cite every example of your idea of "defending terrorism" which is likely just going to be any person who doesn't say that Islam is radical, isn't it?

I had a headache earlier today and you're not worth the effort and pain to go through and do this shit

I've psoted it on this forum before, don't play ignorant.

ALL I GOTTA SAY NOW.

PREPARE FOR THE CRUSADES

 

[ArielMT]

Speaking of crusades, apocalypses, and bringing back medieval times...  These sound as alien to mainstream Muslims as they do to mainstream Christians.

ISIS strikes Western powers, including Belgium, because they know they're goading us into giving them what it is they really want: a holy war in which everyone is either a hatefully extremist Muslim who wants to kill all Christians or a hatefully extremist Christian who wants to kill all Muslims, and in which no one is allowed by either side to be anything less or anything else but one of these two evils.

Since the rise of ISIS, North America and Western Europe have fallen over each other practically turning themselves into the kill-all-Muslims Jesusland that no Muslims but ISIS and extremist sympathizers actually want.

[Clove Darkwave]

It's worth mentioning that Coptic Christians continue to be heavily persecuted, abused, and murdered in Egypt by Islamic peoples. It's known and documented for Coptic women and children to be abducted and through means of physical and/or sexual violence to marry Muslim men. Any attempt to return to Christianity is against the law and in most cases will result in violence or murder as 84% of Egyptian Muslims believe leaving Islam is punishable by death. ( http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2010/12/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Muslim-Report-FINAL-December-2-2010.pdf )

 

So to get to the point I'm trying to make with this example is part of me wonders and worries how much of this may come into play in European countries. There's no assurance such a situation could, but nonetheless it's a very real level of absolute horror perpetrated today under a complete lack of government effort to put a stop to.

[Gamedog]

Ariel, there are muslims in Europe and UK that want sharia law.

[ArielMT]

2 minutes ago, Gamedog said:

Ariel, there are muslims in Europe and UK that want sharia law.

I don't doubt that, but I do have two non-rhetorical questions.  First, what percentage of European and UK Muslims are Muslims who want sharia law?  Second, which sharia law?

[Gamedog]

3 minutes ago, ArielMT said:

I don't doubt that, but I do have two non-rhetorical questions.  First, what percentage of European and UK Muslims are Muslims who want sharia law?  Second, which sharia law?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sharia-law-alive-well-uk-6957168

not sure on the percentage of europe and UK muslims though

[ArielMT]

5 minutes ago, Gamedog said:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sharia-law-alive-well-uk-6957168

not sure on the percentage of europe and UK muslims though

The story is typical fear-mongering sensationalism, conflating what's essentially an Islamic version of ecclesiastic courts (which today are subordinate to state laws in democratic states) with the whole religion.

The Islamic Sharia Council doesn't represent many Muslims, and being Sunni-guided, it's is hard-pressed to represent any Shia Muslims at all.

Also, since I linked to Wikipedia, their Web site's about-us page.

[Gamedog]

5 minutes ago, ArielMT said:

The story is typical fear-mongering sensationalism, conflating what's essentially an Islamic version of ecclesiastic courts (which today are subordinate to state laws in democratic states) with the whole religion.

The Islamic Sharia Council doesn't represent many Muslims, and being Sunni-guided, it's is hard-pressed to represent any Shia Muslims at all.

Also, since I linked to Wikipedia, their Web site's about-us page.

How is it "fear-mongering" if these courts are literally laughing at women in abusive relationships, looking for help?

[Crazy Lee]

The fact of the matter is, if you have someone who wants to commit evil, and happens to be a practitioner of a religion, they will find something in the religion's canon, or find a line in the religious books of that religion, to justify their evil. It is the person who is evil, the religion is just a collection of ideas and beliefs. They just use some of those beliefs to justify their evil deeds. This is the case for any religion and any person.

 

11 hours ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he [is] unclean unto you.

I see I have no place in islam.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+11%3A6&version=KJV

And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

Funny. That's exactly what I posted. So either the Muslims stole ideas from the Jews, or you quoted the wrong book.
Either way, Christians and Jews don't like you either.

11 hours ago, Gamedog said:

> bunch of people are blown into pieces by muslims
> sane people: islam needs to be stopped
> left: but... the christian crusades...

> bunch of people are blown into pieces by muslims
> sane people: the terrorists need to be stopped, but that doesn't mean hurting all muslims.
>  the right: but all muslims are terrorists so let's hate on all muslims and let's hate their religion, instead of just the ones who are committing evil.

 

3 hours ago, Gamedog said:

>Another person indirectly citing the crusades from hundreds of years ago
 

Where exactly did I mention the crusades? In everything I posted, not once did I mention the crusades. Not even when I mentioned that many Christians still follow the old testament.

 

2 hours ago, Gamedog said:

Read his post, along with every other post by terrorism-defenders citing the old testament and the crusades

 

"You mean the way CHRISTIANS use the Old Testament to justify hate towards homosexuals? If they never followed the Old Testament, why do they constantly quote Leviticus and Sodom and Gomorrah when they're condemning gays? Hmm?"

Um, I don't see the Crusades mentioned in that line you quoted from me. Do you know how to read properly?
 

[Gamedog]

2 minutes ago, Crazy Lee said:

but all muslims are terrorists

Where exactly did I mention the crusades? In everything I posted, not once did I mention the crusades. Not even when I mentioned that many Christians still follow the old testament.

 

Um, I don't see the Crusades mentioned in that line you quoted from me. Do you know how to read properly?
 

1. where did i say that

2. my apologies, it seems to be a trend in here when someone says "christianity is bad and christians kill people", it's usually someone referring to shit that happened hundreds of years ago

so.. if you will.. show me evidence of christians killing people and committing terror on a widespread, global scale like muslims are.

[ArielMT]

Just now, Gamedog said:

How is it "fear-mongering" if these courts are literally laughing at women in abusive relationships, looking for help?

The Mirror story is fear-mongering in exactly the way I stated.  It paints the villain as a whole religion being misshapen into a stereotypical cult, using the women's plight in what is essentially an actual cult's court as the story's paintbrush.

Buried deep in the story, well after the caricature's strokes have been painted, is the heart of the problem hinted.  Infighting is the hint:

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In her report, Ms Zee tells of having a completely different experience in Birmingham and when she recounts her time there to the qadis in the Midlands, they reacted with horror.

She said: "I told them about the Islamic Sharia Council case where the qadi told a couple that kaffirs cannot rule on Islamic matters and that the woman’s civil divorce means nothing under Islam.

"They seemed to be appalled. ‘We totally disagree. We cannot have two laws. This is totally wrong. We live as British citizens and accept the law of the land'."

 

[Gamedog]

The Islamic courts are known for denying these problems to non-muslims when confronted. That's why this abuse is allowed to go on

[Khaki]

4 hours ago, Gamedog said:

>Another person indirectly citing the crusades from hundreds of years ago

I don't think I need to tell you this as I'm sure you're reminded often enough but...

It's never too late for having a crusade, we'll just label it as "peace keeping" for good PR.

 

[Dr. Doggo]

6 hours ago, Crazy Lee said:

Bahahahahahahahahahaha.

You mean the way CHRISTIANS use the Old Testament to justify hate towards homosexuals? If they never followed the Old Testament, why do they constantly quote Leviticus and Sodom and Gomorrah when they're condemning gays? Hmm?

what about those who use the new testament to say its a-okay

[Feelwell]

varied

[AshleyAshes]

13 minutes ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

Essentially, religion is so varied, it can be used to justify anything.

Gluttony is a sin, but elsewhere in the bible you can see wasting food being denounced too, finish your plate.

[Toboe]

26 minutes ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

Essentially, religion is so varied, it can be used to justify anything.

Essentially, religion is so varied, it is used to justify everything.

Edit: stupid quote system...

well, it is as usefull as talking to a brick wall, but whatever...

@Gamedog (oh great, mentioning seems to be broken, too)

Where is mentioning the old testament stating the rules shared by Jews, Christians, Muslims (unenforced by Christians), going "but muh chrusades!"

Edited March 23, 2016 by Toboe

[Feelwell]

On 3/23/2016 at 7:46 AM, Toboe said:

Essentially, religion is so varied, it is used to justify everything.

Edit: stupid quote system...

well, it is as usefull as talking to a brick wall, but whatever...

@Gamedog (oh great, mentioning seems to be broken, too)

Where is mentioning the old testament stating the rules shared by Jews, Christians, Muslims (unenforced by Christians), going "but muh chrusades!"

 

[Saxon]

8 hours ago, Gamedog said:

 

stuff

 

 

You deliberately ommitted contemporary content from my quote. I digress though; I'm not trying to paint catholicisim as 'just as bad' as Islam. I was arguing that it is fair game to criticise the catholic church's religious dogma and their wrongdoings, and that it should hence be fair game to criticise other religions too, including Islam. 

 

 

ISIS strikes Western powers, including Belgium, because they know they're goading us into giving them what it is they really want: a holy war in which everyone is either a hatefully extremist Muslim who wants to kill all Christians or a hatefully extremist Christian who wants to kill all Muslims, and in which no one is allowed by either side to be anything less or anything else but one of these two evils.

Since the rise of ISIS, North America and Western Europe have fallen over each other practically turning themselves into the kill-all-Muslims Jesusland that no Muslims but ISIS and extremist sympathizers actually want.

Western Europe is not a 'jesus-land'. Most western Europeans follow no god at all. The Islamic state does not want to goad us into becoming extremist Christians; that's as ridiculous as claiming that they want to goad western Europeans into becoming so angry that they convert to Scientology. 

 

 

Edited March 23, 2016 by Saxon

[Toboe]

45 minutes ago, Saxon said:

Western Europe is not a 'jesus-land'. Most western Europeans follow no god at all. The Islamic state does not want to goad us into becoming extremist Christians; that's as ridiculous as claiming that they want to goad western Europeans into becoming so angry that they convert to Scientology. 

Just not Christian or do you disagree with the notion that ISIS wants us to be polarized among lines that leave muslims outside of society making them easier to recruit?

[#00Buck]

8 hours ago, ArielMT said:

I don't doubt that, but I do have two non-rhetorical questions.  First, what percentage of European and UK Muslims are Muslims who want sharia law?  Second, which sharia law?

Go read about it.

Anyone on this forum should be against it. 

It is the law practiced in their holiest city.

The law where you chop off hands and heads and stone people to death.

Not 2,000 years ago but right now in the present day. It is very popular and the majority of muslims world wide support it. 

Also how can you comment on current events and know nothing about this? 

[Endless/Nameless]

The thing is, decent ones or not, Muslims are a threat to our wellbeing. 

If we dealt with the situation in a naturalistic way, the answer would be simple: eliminate the threat. Smoke 'em. 

But since we as a species are "enlightened" or whatever, we want to handle the situation with as much peace, love, and understanding as possible. And that's not a bad thing. 

But how do we neutralize the threat???

[Toboe]

Just now, Endless/Nameless said:

The thing is, decent ones or not, Muslims are a threat to our wellbeing. 

Do you mean "no matter if there are decent ones, there are muslims that are a threat to our wellbeing" or " no matter if there are decent ones, the non-decent ones are a threat to our wellbeing"

[Feelwell]

On 3/23/2016 at 7:46 AM, Toboe said:

Essentially, religion is so varied, it is used to justify everything.

Edit: stupid quote system...

well, it is as usefull as talking to a brick wall, but whatever...

@Gamedog (oh great, mentioning seems to be broken, too)

Where is mentioning the old testament stating the rules shared by Jews, Christians, Muslims (unenforced by Christians), going "but muh chrusades!"

 

[Toboe]

2 minutes ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

The issue is, killing an idea is extremely difficult, especially if the people trying to kill it want to keep up a preface of not being tyrannical or controllig.

Then not kill it but grow out of it?

[Feelwell]

On 3/23/2016 at 9:49 AM, Toboe said:

Then not kill it but grow out of it?

 

[#00Buck]

5 minutes ago, Toboe said:

Do you mean "no matter if there are decent ones, there are muslims that are a threat to our wellbeing" or " no matter if there are decent ones, the non-decent ones are a threat to our wellbeing"

Stoning people to death and treating women like property and killing homosexuals is what we don't like. 

If they don't believe in what is in their holy book then they aren't actually muslims. They are atheists. 

If they do believe in their holy book then how can they possibly be "decent?"

[Toboe]

1 minute ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

Many refuse to abandon the past. Change isn't easy for many people.

Does not happen over night, sure.

[Saxon]

1 hour ago, Toboe said:

Just not Christian or do you disagree with the notion that ISIS wants us to be polarized among lines that leave muslims outside of society making them easier to recruit?

I suspect that Islamists hold a variety of views about this, many of them ridiculous.

I suspect that lots of Islamists want other Muslims to 'wake up and reject western decadence and non-belief', rather than wanting westerners to reject Muslims. 

The issue is, killing an idea is extremely difficult, especially if the people trying to kill it want to keep up a preface of not being tyrannical or controllig.

Let the religious fundamentalists voice their crazy opinions in an open public arena, so that their arguments can be dismantled in the free market place of ideas. 

The best ideas will eventually rise to the top, if we trust that most people are fundamentally reasonable. 

What we absolutely mustn't do is ban 'wrong' ideas. 

 

Edited March 23, 2016 by Saxon

[Endless/Nameless]

33 minutes ago, Toboe said:

Do you mean "no matter if there are decent ones, there are muslims that are a threat to our wellbeing" or " no matter if there are decent ones, the non-decent ones are a threat to our wellbeing"

Well obviously the former, no question about that. 

But regardless of the good-to-bad ratio, they're still killing people. They are a threat. 

The wrong way to neutralize that threat is to go all Hitler on their ass. That is absolutely wrong and no one in their right mind should want for that. I as a pacifist certainly don't. 

But if we were to act in a naturalistic/darwinistic way, that would probably be our course of action. 

So what is the right course of action? Our preventative actions are failing. We are still getting blown to bits by these people. How are we going to stop it?

Thats the question none of us have the answer to it seems. 

[Feelwell]

On 3/23/2016 at 10:22 AM, Saxon said:

I suspect that Islamists hold a variety of views about this, many of them ridiculous.

I suspect that lots of Islamists want other Muslims to 'wake up and reject western decadence and non-belief', rather than wanting westerners to reject Muslims. 

Let the religious fundamentalists voice their crazy opinions in an open public arena, so that their arguments can be dismantled in the free market place of ideas. 

The best ideas will eventually rise to the top, if we trust that most people are fundamentally reasonable. 

What we absolutely mustn't do is ban 'wrong' ideas. 

 

no such thing as

[willow]

I've gotta go to class so I'm just gonna leave this link here and hope that someone gets the reference

[Feelwell]

On 3/23/2016 at 10:40 AM, willow said:

I've gotta go to class so I'm just gonna leave this link here and hope that someone gets the reference

 

[Toboe]

18 minutes ago, Saxon said:

I suspect that Islamists hold a variety of views about this, many of them ridiculous.

I suspect that lots of Islamists want other Muslims to 'wake up and reject western decadence and non-belief', rather than wanting westerners to reject Muslims.

Maybe not in the mind of the drones (aka members not part of "leadership"). But westerners rejecting Muslims in general seems so obvious a tool to get Muslims to reject westerners, imho.

[Endless/Nameless]

15 minutes ago, willow said:

I've gotta go to class so I'm just gonna leave this link here and hope that someone gets the reference

But seriously, it fucking stinks that any of us are having to be afraid of this stuff. If only they'd do their thing in peace and we could just forget about it. I don't care who they pray to, as long as they [i.e. some of them] don't jack off to our slaughter. 

[Feelwell]

On 3/23/2016 at 10:40 AM, willow said:

I've gotta go to class so I'm just gonna leave this link here and hope that someone gets the reference

@Endless/Nameless prominent

[Endless/Nameless]

21 minutes ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

@Endless/Nameless in reply to what you said (quote system broken, ignore the quote above) the issue is that their interpretation of their religion requires them to attack others. I'm not absolving them, because inside each made the choice to attack others, but that's why we can't have peace with the radicals.

Yeah you're right. I just wish we knew how we're supposed to deal with that. 

I don't normally care about any of this, but recent events and discussions have piqued my interest. 

[Feelwell]

On 3/23/2016 at 11:35 AM, Endless/Nameless said:

Yeah you're right. I just wish we knew how we're supposed to deal with that. 

I don't normally care about any of this, but recent events and discussions have piqued my interest. 

 

[ArielMT]

6 hours ago, Saxon said:

Western Europe is not a 'jesus-land'. Most western Europeans follow no god at all. The Islamic state does not want to goad us into becoming extremist Christians; that's as ridiculous as claiming that they want to goad western Europeans into becoming so angry that they convert to Scientology.

The appeals of Christian conservatives within governments or with seemingly great influence in government policies to vilify every Muslim in the world instead of those who embrace the violently and primitively extremist brand of ISIS makes that very hard to see.  I hope it's a very small minority, but damn are they vocal.

4 hours ago, #00Buck said:

Go read about it.

Anyone on this forum should be against it. 

It is the law practiced in their holiest city.

The law where you chop off hands and heads and stone people to death.

Not 2,000 years ago but right now in the present day. It is very popular and the majority of muslims world wide support it. 

Also how can you comment on current events and know nothing about this? 

Three-fifths of the world's Muslims live outside the Arab world.  More than half the world's Muslims live in South Asia and Southeast Asia.  Almost half of the world's Muslims live in just four countries: Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and the world's largest concentration, Indonesia.  They all behead, behand, and stone people in accordance with inhumanely fundamentalist interpretations of religious scripture?

Also, though it was 18-15 years ago now, I have circumnavigated the world, half the years-long adventure by ship.  It's responsible for the perspective I have of the world, far above and beyond what all but the most worldly-traveled talking heads of TV and radio dispense their opinions from.

[Saxon]

40 minutes ago, ArielMT said:

The appeals of Christian conservatives within governments or with seemingly great influence in government policies to vilify every Muslim in the world instead of those who embrace the violently and primitively extremist brand of ISIS makes that very hard to see.  I hope it's a very small minority, but damn are they vocal.

Three-fifths of the world's Muslims live outside the Arab world.  More than half the world's Muslims live in South Asia and Southeast Asia.  Almost half of the world's Muslims live in just four countries: Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and the world's largest concentration, Indonesia.  They all behead, behand, and stone people in accordance with inhumanely fundamentalist interpretations of religious scripture?

Also, though it was 18-15 years ago now, I have circumnavigated the world, half the years-long adventure by ship.  It's responsible for the perspective I have of the world, far above and beyond what all but the most worldly-traveled talking heads of TV and radio dispense their opinions from.

Here is a map of the frequency of people in Europe who actually believe in any sort of god. Bare in mind you must subtract about 5-10% from this because about 5-10% of western Europeans are Muslims, and that you must then subtract even more because not everybody left over who believes in a god is a christian. 

Western Europe is not going to become a Christian theocracy any time soon. 

 

 

Bringing up Pakistan as an example of a country 'outside the arab world' which 'does not behead infidels' is a faux part. The only country you refer to which doesn't have serious issues is Indonesia. 

Pakistan is simply awful; you can be sentenced to death for insulting the Muslim faith: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_Pakistan

Bangladesh and India are widely known for their honour killing and rape apologist cultures, although that's not exclusive to their Muslim population. 

Pakistan, Bangladesh and India are arse-backwards places, essentially. 

[ArielMT]

All very fair points.

4 minutes ago, Saxon said:

Pakistan is simply awful; you can be sentenced to death for insulting the Muslim faith: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_Pakistan

Bangladesh and India are widely known for their honour killing and rape apologist cultures, although that's not exclusive to their Muslim population. 

Pakistan, Bangladesh and India are arse-backwards places, essentially. 

As bad as Pakistan's blasphemy law is (and I agree it's an extremely terrible law), no one's been executed under that law yet.

Your point about Bangladesh and India highlights real problems, desperately in need of solving, that transcend Islam.

[Saxon]

Just now, ArielMT said:

All very fair points.

As bad as Pakistan's blasphemy law is (and I agree it's an extremely terrible law), no one's been executed under that law yet.

Your point about Bangladesh and India highlights real problems, desperately in need of solving, that transcend Islam.

...they're not exactly scoring any brownie points for that, though, are they? Especially not after this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/01/funeral-pakistani-mumtaz-qadri-executed-salmaan-taseer

Thousands of members of the Pakistani public protesting in favour of religiously inspired murder. 

Pakistan is a nightmare shariah-controlled nation. Even if the state doesn't kill you for being a non believer, your friends and family will, or maybe they'll be merciful and settle for just pouring battery acid on you. :\

Buck is absolutely right when he describes Muslim countries' judicial systems as archaic, brutal and fundamentally more about preserving the faith than achieving fairness. 

 

[Gamedog]

12 hours ago, Saxon said:

 I was arguing that it is fair game to criticise the catholic church's religious dogma and their wrongdoings, and that it should hence be fair game to criticise other religions too, including Islam.

 

I agree. I don't believe any religion is exempt from cricisism. I just think that bringing up the crusades as an example of how Christians "are just as bad" is one of the quickest ways for me to just ignore any and all points someone makes.
We're talking about THE CURRENT YEAR!!!! and how Muslims are still committing terrorist attacks and making terrorist threats. Europe is at war again, but this time with Islam -- in the current age, The Current Year TM -- and so actions done today aren't comparable or relevant to shit that happened hundreds of years ago.

 

If we wanna go that route, do I need to mention the shit muslims did back then? (that they still continue to do today???)

[#00Buck]

6 hours ago, ArielMT said:

The appeals of Christian conservatives within governments or with seemingly great influence in government policies to vilify every Muslim in the world instead of those who embrace the violently and primitively extremist brand of ISIS makes that very hard to see.  I hope it's a very small minority, but damn are they vocal.

Three-fifths of the world's Muslims live outside the Arab world.  More than half the world's Muslims live in South Asia and Southeast Asia.  Almost half of the world's Muslims live in just four countries: Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and the world's largest concentration, Indonesia.  They all behead, behand, and stone people in accordance with inhumanely fundamentalist interpretations of religious scripture?

Also, though it was 18-15 years ago now, I have circumnavigated the world, half the years-long adventure by ship.  It's responsible for the perspective I have of the world, far above and beyond what all but the most worldly-traveled talking heads of TV and radio dispense their opinions from.

Their holiest city is Mecca in Saudi Arabia. 

Every muslim is required to make the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in their life.

Mecca is where they chop off heads. Not 18 - 15 years ago.

Right now. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-publicly-beheads-woman-in-holy-mecca-as-blogger-set-to-receive-second-lashing-9982134.html

Article. They chop heads off all time time. 

This is in their holiest place. The Christian equivalent would be the Vatican. 

Can you imagine how nuts everyone would go if the pope started chopping off heads in the Vatican?

If Muslims do it nobody cares. 

Edited March 24, 2016 by #00Buck

[PastryOfApathy]

I keep misreading the title as "Attack on Bronies".

Can we talk about that instead? I mean, there's brown ponies so I'm sure we can talk about how they're subhumans too.

Edited March 24, 2016 by PastryOfApathy

[#00Buck]

Here's an article about them trampling each other at Mecca. 

People literally stomping each other to death.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/at-least-1313-pilgrims-killed-in-saudi-hajj-stampede-associated-press/article26714533/

Then afterwards they decided they would kill everyone they thought might be responsible for the stampede.

So chop go the heads in Mecca.

Here's the articles on the beheadings.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-28-muslims-beheaded-by-saudi-officials-over-holy-mecca-stampede-shock-video/

There is a You Tube video where you can actually watch all the heads get chopped off but I'm not going to post it because I think you should be able to get the point just by knowing they do this kind of thing.

Edited March 24, 2016 by #00Buck

[Gamedog]

Not a true Muslim

[Flake]

On 3/23/2016 at 11:30 AM, #00Buck said:

If people do suicide bombings in Brussels how is that making the religion a scapegoat?

It's scapegoating if your response to an act of terrorism is to blame an entire religion. It's better to address the people actually doing these things instead of lumping all Muslims into the same boat.

Even then, I read the links you posted and honestly, that stuff is disturbing. Barbaric. Not the sort of thing you'd expect from a civilized country in the 21st century. Also:

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Limitations on women's rights in Saudi Arabia make it the only country where women are not permitted to drive. The country is also criticised for its capital punishment, which is condemned internationally because of the wide range of crimes which can result in the death penalty. It is usually carried out by public beheading and sometimes crucifixion. It applies even to individuals who were under the age of 18 at the time of their alleged crimes, which is a violation of international law.

 

Saudi Arabia just seems like an awful place to begin with, if only for the human rights concerns. It does bother me that those things are allowed to go on.

[FlynnCoyote]

Saudie Arabia is the kind of place that needs to have the reset button hit. Hard. Their corrupt theocratic government needs to have the pompous smiles seared from their faces with hot lead. And even that is too good for them. Goat fucking cunts.

 

Edited March 24, 2016 by FlynnCoyote