Deskai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, RTDragon said: Well it took me a while to read this mess especially since this reminds me of console fever. Also there one factor that also makes FA not a good place for a business standpoint if you were trying to go for a professional job. Considering how fursites are known for porn and sadly there's has not been a clean dedicated furry art sites pretty much only reinforces this point. (Considering the only ones i know is artspots and yerf and they're gone.) And from what i've noticed over the years is FA has become more and more disturbing with a lot of stuff that seems to be on the news with the recent incident as well as porn being the most popular which makes it really difficult for SFW artists. So the furry stereotype is reinforced. Well thats when I actually use a third party site of Tumblr and divided up my works between clean and nsfw but tumblr is a mess but its my favorite kind of mess..."The HOT MESS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, Deskai said: Well thats when I actually use a third party site of Tumblr and divided up my works between clean and nsfw but tumblr is a mess but its my favorite kind of mess..."The HOT MESS" Good thing about tumblr is the multiple blogs but how do you even handle multiple blogs can you do it from one account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, RTDragon said: Well it took me a while to read this mess especially since this reminds me of console fever. (Some people need to read the dictionary to know what shill is and this thread is a fine example of it.) Your even worse that the game devs on steam. Well considering that you really forget that there are professional art sites like artstation CGhub and Conceptart.org yeah you actually can make more money on professional art sites then hobby sites. That's why networking and doing a variety of art is important it's really clear that furry fetish art won't work on those sites or fanart but there's still a lot to learn. Also there one factor that also makes FA not a good place for a business standpoint if you were trying to go for a professional job. Considering how fursites are known for porn and sadly there's has not been a clean dedicated furry art sites pretty much only reinforces this point. (Considering the only ones i know is artspots and yerf and they're gone.) And from what i've noticed over the years is FA has become more and more disturbing with a lot of stuff that seems to be on the news with the recent incident as well as porn being the most popular which makes it really difficult for SFW artists. So the furry stereotype is reinforced. I don't "forget" I am just speaking strictly in terms of furry artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: I don't "forget" I am just speaking strictly in terms of furry artists. Unfortunately just drawing furry art especially carbon cutouts to sell just does'nt work anymore. Since most don't have buisness practice which really explains that the majority of AB posts seem to come from FA + Multiple sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshabi Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 14 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: I am on most of the other 'major' furry networks, but I know a lot of others are not, including artists. You must not have a lot of customers. Don't consider me brainwashed because I'm not an idiot. I know plenty of furs that don't even have a Twitter. I also know several artists with a lot of followers who won't get near that many on other sites, you're the brainwashed one if you think they would. It's easy if you have like 5-10 followers, but thousands, it's very unlikely you'll see them all on another site. What the fuck kind of rebuttal was tha- Oh woops, this is pheagle. My bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Some people never learn that FA been a haven for very poor and illegal business practices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, RTDragon said: Some people never learn that FA been a haven for very poor and illegal business practices. only time I accept FA admins for help is when they forced an artist to give me a refund cause they pointed out that their ToS did not include that they wont do refunds but also how the artist blocked me when I asked for one. It was either they get banned off of FA for shady practices, or refund those folks who wanted a refund then update their ToS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketra Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, RTDragon said: Some people never learn that FA been a haven for very poor and illegal business practices. This. I'm not new to the fandom, but neither have I been around for very long and as such everything I hear about how bad FA is is mostly rumour or just part of the picture. If there were better attempts to educate the fanbase about the history of FA, other more transparent sites may have more appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ketra said: This. I'm not new to the fandom, but neither have I been around for very long and as such everything I hear about how bad FA is is mostly rumour or just part of the picture. If there were better attempts to educate the fanbase about the history of FA, other more transparent sites may have more appeal Note not all sites are good, they tend to be slightly better like how SoFurry its like.. "Be nice" to a hella level that scares me but I also see it as that one place that have TWO ADULT RP sections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, Toshabi said: What the fuck kind of rebuttal was tha- Oh woops, this is pheagle. My bad. You've always been an asshole, why should now be any different? I don't know why I try to talk to you. 14 minutes ago, RTDragon said: Unfortunately just drawing furry art especially carbon cutouts to sell just does'nt work anymore. Since most don't have buisness practice which really explains that the majority of AB posts seem to come from FA + Multiple sites. I am not going to disclose the artists I know out of respect, but some of them DO support themselves on 'just drawing furry art' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, PheagleAdler said: You've always been an asshole, why should now be any different? I don't know why I try to talk to you. its the same reason why everyone for you is "They always brown nose for FA, why do we try?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ketra said: This. I'm not new to the fandom, but neither have I been around for very long and as such everything I hear about how bad FA is is mostly rumour or just part of the picture. If there were better attempts to educate the fanbase about the history of FA, other more transparent sites may have more appeal lol do tell me how DA has a stellar record. Just now, Deskai said: its the same reason why everyone for you is "They always brown nose for FA, why do we try?" Did it ever once occur to you that I care about the people who use FA? No? Maybe try that, and get off your high horse, claiming that I'm brown nosing for the site. I'm not. I'm speaking for reality, the fact that no other site is currently measuring up, that most artists are at least suffering a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketra Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: lol do tell me how DA has a stellar record. I don't use DA so I have even less knowledge of what they may or may not have done wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Some drama and shit goes down and suddenly Phealgle is back with his totally-not-a-fetish to suck FA's weird collective dick. 5 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: Did it ever once occur to you that I care about the people who use FA? No? Maybe try that, and get off your high horse, claiming that I'm brown nosing for the site. I'm not. I'm speaking for reality, the fact that no other site is currently measuring up, that most artists are at least suffering a bit. If there are literally no other art sites that measure up to FA, then quite frankly that's one of the saddest things I've ever heard in my entire life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, PastryOfApathy said: Some drama and shit goes down and suddenly Phealgle is back with his totally-not-a-fetish to suck FA's weird collective dick. If there are literally no other art sites that measure up to FA, then quite frankly that's one of the saddest things I've ever heard in my entire life. Measure up in their user bases, wise guy. And you misspelled my name. Congratulations. Care to join these other asshats and get drunk accusing me of brownnosing like usual? You people need to get a new hobby. Maybe the internet is not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: lol do tell me how DA has a stellar record. Did it ever once occur to you that I care about the people who use FA? No? Maybe try that, and get off your high horse, claiming that I'm brown nosing for the site. I'm not. I'm speaking for reality, the fact that no other site is currently measuring up, that most artists are at least suffering a bit. That's funny you should speak of DA considering there's quite a strong anthro community example here. http://anthrocommunity.deviantart.com/ So don't make that kind of excuse since there's several difference and one huge one that community has that FA does'nt have. Plus DA has official contests from companies even. and you can tell who wins from the end of the contests from all the hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, RTDragon said: That's funny you should speak of DA considering there's quite a strong anthro community example here. http://anthrocommunity.deviantart.com/ So don't make that kind of excuse since there's several difference and one huge one that community has that FA does'nt have. Plus DA has official contests from companies even. and you can tell who wins from the end of the contests from all the hard work. DA is full of immature brats, people who steal artwork for their own personal galleries thinking it's just a site where they can post anything, people who outright hate furries, and a staff who half the time doesn't give a shit about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: Measure up in their user bases, wise guy. And you misspelled my name. Congratulations. Care to join these other asshats and get drunk accusing me of brownnosing like usual? You people need to get a new hobby. Maybe the internet is not for you. lol I'm not gonna argue with you I'm just gonna continue mocking you from a distance because no matter how bad things get, at least i'm not a weirdo on the internet who makes it their life's work to defend dog rapists while advertising the fact that they want to fuck an eagle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, PastryOfApathy said: lol I'm not gonna argue with you I'm just gonna continue mocking you from a distance because no matter how bad things get, at least i'm not a weirdo on the internet who makes it their life's work to defend dog rapists while advertising the fact that they want to fuck an eagle. Dude, what the hell's your problem? Did someone piss in your cheerios this morning? I, like most furries, do not fuck animals. And you are horrible for thinking so. I describe the problems that FA being down for extended period of time causes, and suddenly, I'm the bad person here. Yeah. Because NO ONE uses FA anymore... I'm a fucking brownnoser because I realize with how many people use the site on a daily basis, what problems in communication it could cause, how many would/could lose income. Yeah, I'm the bad person here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 FA and DA are both bad. The community on DA is much worse, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 11 hours ago, Lucyfish said: FA and DA are both bad. The community on DA is much worse, though. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 14 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: DA is full of immature brats, people who steal artwork for their own personal galleries thinking it's just a site where they can post anything, people who outright hate furries, and a staff who half the time doesn't give a shit about you. Is'nt that kind of the same thing with Furaffinity if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I keep using FA because I enjoy the community, for the most part. I can't speak for everyone but I very rarely have negative interactions on the FA mainsite. People generally leave nice comments on the commissions I upload, and the worst thing I typically get is a rare note asking for random sex RP or notes that just say "hi." That being said, the entire staff of FA are dipshits and none of them know how to properly maintain a website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, RTDragon said: Is'nt that kind of the same thing with Furaffinity if you think about it. Maybe without the part of 'hating furries' I don't think FA has that, at least not as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: No, I don't. Because I'm not some sicko, like you. We're a judgement-free community, it's fine you can tell us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, PastryOfApathy said: We're a judgement-free community, it's fine you can tell us. lol you're most certainly not judgement free. And if I was a sicko like you, I'd most certainly tell you. But I consider it wrong, and worse than having sex in a fursuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willow Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Okay ladies, let's stop with the personal attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor-933 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 fucking @PastryOfApathy over here throwing fire hotter than my mixtape 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutekh_the_Steak Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Ahaaaaaah I love how this thread about what we'd do if we found an FA exploit appeared literally days before someone actually found a way to use an FA exploit. Irony (it is irony right?) at it's best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheagleAdler Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Sutekh_the_Steak said: Ahaaaaaah I love how this thread about what we'd do if we found an FA exploit appeared literally days before someone actually found a way to use an FA exploit. Irony (it is irony right?) at it's best. I bet the asshat who used the exploit is in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willow Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: I bet the asshat who used the exploit is in this thread. We already established that it probably wasn't anyone here, but rather someone who went to BLFC those two points aren't mutually exclusive, but it makes the probability of it being someone here rather low Edited May 18, 2016 by willow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMT Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: I bet the asshat who used the exploit is in this thread. If proof of that materializes, we will be contacted. Until and unless that happens, speculation is totally pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutekh_the_Steak Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: I bet the asshat who used the exploit is in this thread. Aaah who knows dude. Who knows. It's a bit of a moot point until evidence turns up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminal7 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 @RTDragon Hey, man. How's it going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falaffel Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Sutekh_the_Steak said: Ahaaaaaah I love how this thread about what we'd do if we found an FA exploit appeared literally days before someone actually found a way to use an FA exploit. Irony (it is irony right?) at it's best. Coincidence. It's not quite irony. Still odd and funny, however. 7 minutes ago, PheagleAdler said: I bet the asshat who used the exploit is in this thread. Your hate boner is immense. I'm jealous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Terminal7 said: @RTDragon Hey, man. How's it going? I'm doing well just watching this trainwreck and FA manages to get exploited and it's source code stolen this time. Which isn't surprising how a website can't even take the time to fix security holes before functionality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMT Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, RTDragon said: ... FA manages to get ... it's source code stolen this time. This isn't the first time FA's code has been leaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, ArielMT said: This isn't the first time FA's code has been leaked. Oh really than how many times has this happen. No other sites has has this much security issues as FA has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminal7 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, RTDragon said: I'm doing well just watching this trainwreck and FA manages to get exploited and it's source code stolen this time. Which isn't surprising how a website can't even take the time to fix security holes before functionality. Aye. I truly don't understand what someone would do with the code - I don't know, maybe that's why they didn't bother trying to patch up security holes. They should really get into the process of having an overhaul of the site, but maybe too many users are relying on it for income (or something like that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMT Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, RTDragon said: Oh really than how many times has this happen. No other sites has has this much security issues as FA has. I know of one other time a long time ago, before I was an admin there, but I don't know of any that happened between then and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Terminal7 said: Aye. I truly don't understand what someone would do with the code - I don't know, maybe that's why they didn't bother trying to patch up security holes. They should really get into the process of having an overhaul of the site, but maybe too many users are relying on it for income (or something like that) As Deskai said about this relying on one main site isn't good at all considering it's poor business practice which really should'nt be happening but has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 LOL multiple pages of arguing whether branching out over several sites is a good saftey net You're guys are too much 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 33 minutes ago, ArielMT said: I know of one other time a long time ago, before I was an admin there, but I don't know of any that happened between then and now. there was also a time one of the former developers of the old aging code release a list of exploits one can do on FA, and the person who ran the FA note leak site had a code on it that if you visit the site it will make you make an automatic journal on FA if you are logged in on FA at the time. my fave exploit of the past is the one where you can make a person auto fave an image by just hidng some code in an image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikazuki Marazhu Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I will save the furry fandom from faggotteer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, 6tails said: I can count five different times FA code has been leaked, including this one. This is different in that it's a full source leak, not just excerpts like most of the others. Hopefully the next attack involves Pheagle's FA account. hey now, that last part wasnt needed I may not like em either but I know of Karma and they enjoy giving what you want and then double for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, 6tails said: I don't have an FA account so what's Karma going to do, wipe my non-existent FA account? you know the rules of karma, something equivalent always X 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aouzy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Karma ain't real, yo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Lee Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Why is this thread still going when there's the other megathread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Aouzy said: Karma ain't real, yo. you'd think that, but for my family "its really bad that our uncle died after the person he hated died, but he got drowning as his cause while that person got heart attack" so yea...we just go to never wish someone harm or anything to happen to them now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I have, and I told them about it. There was at least one SQL injection site and a bunch of bugs I had already troubleshot. I never actually tested ithe SQL injection again to see if it was fixed and now the site's down anyway. WELP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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