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  1. 1. Would you add humans in your furry world?

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I don't like the idea of humans in a world of furries unless there is ample reason for it. I think good reasons where I'd find such acceptable is like some great major event in the past that made furries appear or furries existing on other planets and space travel being a thing.

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Anthros usually replace humans for me. I dislike having them in furry stories as they always become - 

2 minutes ago, LadyRadarEars said:

Well where else would I get imperialistic, technologically advanced jerks that try to incorporate everyone into DEMOCRATIC EMPIRELAND (tm) for their own good while fighting gigantic horrible space monstrosities?

That. 

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I have had more general fantasy worlds in which there were both anthro and human races among others, but in predominately anthro worlds, I do not include humans, partially for the exact reason Falaffel stated.

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In my imagined worlds, furries are either humanity's future made possible through science, or they occupy alternate dimensions. Furry interactions with humans would require time travel or interdimensional portals. Either way, I like to think they're more advanced than us. Transcending things like wars and repressive social customs.

Would I add humans? Sure, but only as a science fiction/fantasy plot device. Otherwise, I'd rather not.

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1 hour ago, Falaffel said:

Anthros usually replace humans for me. I dislike having them in furry stories as they always become - 

That. 

That's because most people don't have the humans as the protagonists trying to save everyone. That and realistically, in most scifi universes I enjoy, all sides are imperialistic, its just a matter of their flavor being monarchy or democracy or hive mind or w/e. In lolfurry fiction its almost always 'baww evil humans' but its hilarious when you find a story where the humans are the ones who know what they're doing :V

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4 minutes ago, LadyRadarEars said:

That's because most people don't have the humans as the protagonists trying to save everyone. That and realistically, in most scifi universes I enjoy, all sides are imperialistic, its just a matter of their flavor being monarchy or democracy or hive mind or w/e. In lolfurry fiction its almost always 'baww evil humans' but its hilarious when you find a story where the humans are the ones who know what they're doing :V

I'd just prefer it if they'd portray them as not so one sided. Like, a race is always diverse. 

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3 minutes ago, Falaffel said:

I'd just prefer it if they'd portray them as not so one sided. Like, a race is always diverse. 

You can be diverse, culturally, and be part of a hegemonic state, but yeah, the best times, I think, humans are portrayed (in science fiction, mind) are when they're a bunch of squabbling nation-states and pirate groups that spend more time fighting each other than outside forces, cuz, well, I mean its what we do :V

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6 minutes ago, DrDingo said:

Humans would make really good villains in an anthro world

Urgh. Why though? You're a human, are you evil? Would you attempt to eradicate another species simply because they exist? Do you really think the rest of mankind would, either? I think it's far more likely that we'd share the land, not try and take it for ourselves. 

There'd be radicals, yes, but to assume humanity as a whole be the "bad guys" seems ludicrous. 

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25 minutes ago, Falaffel said:

Urgh. Why though? You're a human, are you evil? Would you attempt to eradicate another species simply because they exist? Do you really think the rest of mankind would, either? I think it's far more likely that we'd share the land, not try and take it for ourselves. 

There'd be radicals, yes, but to assume humanity as a whole be the "bad guys" seems ludicrous. 

Not humans collectively

But like, the main antagonist would be. It works because you don't want a bad guy that's cute and fluffy. That'd just be silly.

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I generally dislike the use of humans in furry settings, because they create easy villains for lazy, unoriginal hack writing.

But if they're just used as another race,
or, even better, as one possible evolutionary end (primates) compared to the evolutionary ends of other species (felines, reptiles, etc), then I like them a lot more.

I don't tend to write anthros much in general, but if I did, I'd lean more towards the latter.

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5 minutes ago, Vae said:

I generally dislike the use of humans in furry settings, because they create easy villains for lazy, unoriginal hack writing.
 

Alright, you've changed my mind

Human villains are a boring cliché 

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6 minutes ago, DrDingo said:

Alright, you've changed my mind

Human villains are a boring cliché 

It's a common trope that people fall victim to, because they don't want to vilify what they idolize. So it's easier to make them either holier-than-thou to humans, or persecuted by humans, depending whether the race falls under the category of overpowered / overknowledged, or completely woobified. (Sometimes both.)

It's something I've done myself, as a teenager.
But it's lazy, and doesn't make for deep worldbuilding.

Also, it just ends up turning anthros (or whatever the idealized race is) into a bunch of Mary Sues.

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I solve the human issue by simply saying that they exist in my universe, only that they're far, FAAAAAAR away from my alien anthros. The Milky Way's so big, what are the odds of them meeting? 

Even better, I simply replace Earthlings with anthros. Let's take Disney's Robin Hood as an example: there is no elaborate explanation as to why there's animal people instead of humans, they're basically humans with a different (and much more appealing and interesting IMHO) skin. That's really all there is to it and that's the concept of anthro I like.

Anyway, ''standard anthros'' as I call 'em (i.e. wolf anthros, fox anthros, cat anthros and so on and so forth, the usuals) don't interest me much. I like seeing them drawn from other artists but I don't like drawing them myself. Me lil' personally designed aliens are my babies, I enjoy drawing them a lot more than I do regular anthros. Furthermore, working with species created from scratch grants much greater freedom in terms of worldbuilding, I find

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My setting is a timeline several hundred thousand times removed from the current, where primordial gods chose to directly intervene in the planet's development and prevented primates from evolving to dominance. Numerous other races took their place, predominantly carnivores with a few omnivores among them. So no, generally there are no humans in the world, but they may be referenced off hand by certain omniscient beings.

When wars and conflict continued to arise among these races, the gods abandoned this timeline to its own devices and presumably moved along to another one to try again.

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In my fictional 'verse it's basically Earth as we know it, humans included, but there's a country with anthro races living there and [most] humans don't know about it, and [most] anthros don't know about the humans because for really contrived reasons, they can't get out of their country due to like a space-time loop or something.

Humans are mythical animals to them, and dragons etc. are mythical animals to humans, so when the main character meets a human, it's a big deal to them at first, but it all mellows out quite fast because they're so similar. All the races including humans are neutral ground. They form a small gang of humans and anthros who go to kill the antagonist who's an anthro type.

All the antagonists are anthro types but there are a couple of "bad" humans, not that there's a lot of humans in the story to start with.

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In one of my universes in particular, humans were created intentionally by a race of birdlike people, to obey them and pad out their military forces.
A race under servitude, basically.
Until the bird people got knocked down a peg in their larger war with the other races, and humans ended up outlasting them entirely.

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15 minutes ago, Vae said:

In one of my universes in particular, humans were created intentionally by a race of birdlike people, to obey them and pad out their military forces.
A race under servitude, basically.
Until the bird people got knocked down a peg in their larger war with the other races, and humans ended up outlasting them entirely.

Reminds me of metroid

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I would actually prefer to 'run' humans as more of a monster/bogeyman kind of deal.  You don't so much hear about their racist or imperialist policies as much as you hear that a human showed up, wrecked shit, stole something, left, and no one could stop them.  And I'd have a blast making characters share wild rumors about what humans are capable of.

"I heard humans can reattach their limbs after they're chopped off!"

"Humans don't die when shot.  You have to hit them in the head, and even then that only sometimes works."

"There are humans whose only job is to cut open other humans and change around their insides!"

"I heard humans travel in pairs, and if one dies, the other goes beserk until everything around them is dead."

"I heard humans are so ugly that if you see their real face you turn to stone!"

Less strawman political, and more militant, Lovecraftian abomination, at least the way the characters see it through their pinhole glimpse of various invasive vagabonds sent by their masters to fulfill a task.  The rest would be more like us, living normal lives and likely unaware of skirmishes perpetrated by higher-ups.

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have a bit from a story I'm trying to write, one of these characters is a human, the other is a kangaroo.

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Doctor Haversaddle looked at the Australian with a deep frown. Pulling down his glasses to the tip of his nose to look over them, he sighed; “So, Mister Barega Walker” the smile on his face gave away his amusement over the irony of Mister Walker’s last name, but he certainly wasn’t one to talk. “welcome on board the RRS Taxunity. I am Doctor Enzio Haversaddle, I will be helping you during your time on board. Cultural and speciesbound differences sometimes cause discomfort, and we certainly do not want you to suffer in any way” he smiled as he twirled his mustache.


I'm trying very hard to write in a way that doesn't give away the characters species, so there you go.

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I'm doing the same thing as @Amiir. Humans may or may not exist. My setting may or may not be in the same galaxy -- the Hadeans certainly don't call it the Milky Way, at least. But if it is the same galaxy, and if humans are still around, they are probably on the complete opposite end. Either way, they don't have any place within the storyline.

 

If they did exist, humans would probably be the same manipulative assholes we all already know ourselves to be, though. Not because "ihatehumanslol" but because perfectly just, moral, and righteous species are boring and unrealistic.

The "protagonist" Galactic Hadean Federation are, by human standards, space fascism socialists, complete with super ultra omega secret public surveillance and "disappearing" of certain individuals.

The separatist Outer Rim Concordat are space terrorist anarcho-communists that could probably be described as a cross between a BernieBro's wet dream and Somalia.

They've all done some pretty shady shit, and as far as international relations are concerned they'd all be pretty self-serving -- and in the GHF's case, pretty quick to pull the trigger, after the kind of shit they've already been through. *cough*extinction war*cough*

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Negative, though in my furry world, apes like Chimpanzees and Gorillas were a thing, but they left the planet eons ago.

Y'see, about  twenty thousand years before the common era, a Sergal scientific expedition gathered up small groups of animals from around the globe in order to conduct experiments on them to create some kind of bio weapons through genetic engineering. Unfortunately for the Sergal science team, giving animals increased intelligence and speeding up evolution over the course of two generations wasn't exactly beneficial for their goals; the various species managed to overpower their captors and escape the ship back to the planet. 

The apes, they had other ideas. Under the guise of sacrificing their numbers for the rest of the animals, the apes hijacked the ship and headed off to their own ends.

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