PastryOfApathy Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, #00Buck said: Mom! Pastry is picking on me again!!! Jokes on you, I'm ur mum now lil' mister. They don't call me Mama Ratkin for nothin' fishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, PastryOfApathy said: Jokes on you, I'm ur mum now lil' mister. They don't call me Mama Ratkin for nothin' fishy. Then pop that tit out mommy! I needs to suckle sum rat milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, #00Buck said: Then pop that tit out mommy! I needs to suckle sum rat milk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, PastryOfApathy said: Taxation is theft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikazuki Marazhu Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 There is no more freedom of speech, just freedom from speech. If I start a hate speech based from my opinions people will be calling me out, that is why a lot of people don't watch to voice out opinions at all Also I cant make dirty jokes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshabi Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 34 minutes ago, #00Buck said: Mom! Pastry is picking on me again!!! (a moment of silence for the departure of goatmommod) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Toshabi said: (a moment of silence for the departure of goatmommod) ;_;7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I'm glad this thread has some substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboe Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, 6tails said: Political Correctness is for fags. So is Penis Cum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Ampers& Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) 15 hours ago, WolfNightV4X1 said: I think the use of language isnt the language itself, but the context irs used in and who its used around. The problem is not words being said, but the idiots not knowing when to say certain words and the other idiots getting their panties in a twist with the word itself and not paying attention to the context in which said word was used (i.e is it hateful, scornful, meant to put down? If not, gtfo it) I think this is actually a very good point like say hypothetically we outright outlaw use of the R-slur (a word that should basically never be used by anyone atm, especially abled people), made it so you go to jail for using it. Treated the anguish that's purposely being invoked by that word as punishable etc etc I'm rambling if that happened people would just find a new word. Something that just as cleanly: 1) describes the other person's perceived lack of intelligence / brain function and 2) is invoked to distance the speaker from the target, to place the speaker ABOVE the target as being more valuable, more virtuous, etc, for having the correct level of intelligence of brain function and then that gets used forever and the EFFECT of the r-slur never actually disappears even though the word effectively has It's very important to, on top of asking that people not use that one specific ableist slur, to also challenge the thought processes and societal ableism that actually lead to these slurs being created in the first place Although to be fair the picture the OP is citing is an ableism 101 facebook post like I think we can forgive a poster w/ 32 words on it for not portraying the topic with a proper amount of nuance EDIT: forgot to also quote @PastryOfApathy pointing out that "jerk" and "psycho" mean two different things I think an important purpose of posters like the one the OP cited is to get people actually thinking about the context in which they use ableist language I hear all the time people using the term psycho as a perjorative against people of questionable moral character. "My ex girlfriend was a total psycho, she keyed my car after we broke up" or "The dude was a total psycho, shouting at me over the dumbest shit" The people in these examples are being jerks. People are just really quick to look at other people being purposely malicious towards them and for some reason that always gets reframed as "this person is insane / this person is of low intelligence" which is so fucking weird to me people even do this for acts as malicious as mass shootings. If a shooter is white (meaning: race can't be blamed) everyone will call the dude a psycho, insane, schizophrenic, blame autism or SOMETHING. Mass shooters will make videos about how they're shooting up their school because no girls will date them and the media will fucking gravitate towards attacking this person's mental health rather than their gross sense of entitlement okay I'm just a little bitter on the subject but I mean, it's so gross? Disabled people in general are so much more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators of but we always get blamed for the actions of entitled abled people who are being jerks Edited July 22, 2016 by Another Ampers& multiquote doesn't work after you've already posted :C 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Who cares, identity politics serves as nothing more than a means to distract and divide the masses with trivial matters, from resolving issues that are actually a problem. Except for maybe making them sweet dollarydoos from riding that bandwagon in the forms of government funding and "donations", etc. A word can also become meaningless and devoid of it's edge if used excessively to the point that people no longer care about it's implications in the end anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troj Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 11 hours ago, Onnes said: It has the ironic consequence of promoting equivalence between words with extinct disability specific usage like "idiot" and those with extant usage like "retard" and the endless autism/asperger's references. Yes! Precisely. "You are retarded/psycho/stupid/faggoty" is insulting because it is being directed at you, and is implying negative things about you. Statements about "fags" or "darkies" or "loonies" are insulting and hurtful because they dehumanize and malign specific groups of people, or people who are presumed to belong to those groups. Saying that people ought to automatically take offense to people saying "That movie was dumb," "Michelle Bachmann is stupid," or "Kim Jong Un is totally psycho," implies that people should see those statements and words as being about them--that is, that they should see themselves as stupid, dumb, or psycho. Talk about your unfortunate implications! Offhand, the only mentally ill people I've known who automatically take offense to people calling random people or things "crazy" or "loopy" are either defensive or paranoid in general, or majoring in Disability Studies and/or have picked up a lot of SJW lingo on Tumblr. What would be more helpful, I think, would be for people to become better-educated and more aware about mental illness in general, such that they aren't reflexively dismissive or afraid of people with mental illnesses, and start to think twice before turning them into the butt of jokes. What would also be helpful would be if people were discouraged from just casually abusing diagnostic language or engaging in armchair psychologizing when they actually don't know shit (as in @Another Ampers&'s example of people declaring that the shooter must've been schizophrenic or autistic, because shooting). Telling people to refrain from saying "psycho" or "loony bin" doesn't necessarily put a "face" on mental illness in a way that would actually increase a person's understanding of and empathy for individuals with those illnesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 8 hours ago, 6tails said: Political Correctness is for fags. That's so gay. No homo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaende Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 But yeah, giving something a new name doesn't necessarily remove the stigma. Maybe for a little while, but we know what you mean. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Ampers& Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 5 hours ago, Khaki said: Who cares, identity politics serves as nothing more than a means to distract and divide the masses with trivial matters, from resolving issues that are actually a problem. what position are you coming from that you believe use of Ableist slurs is a not "actually a problem" just out of curiosity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Ampers& Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, 6tails said: Probably the same position I'm coming from - words are words. If you let them offend you, you're the one who is weak of mind. Could you define for me what "weak of mind" exactly means, and specifically describe why it would be bad to be weak of mind, or why we otherwise shouldn't accommodate those kinds of people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Ampers& Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, 6tails said: It means you're too sensitive and not fit for the harsh realities of nature, let alone human society. Without an actual society to prop you up,, you wouldn't survive. this is worrisome to read as someone who is disabled and unable to support themselves on their own for reasons other than hyper-sensitivity Do you think that I should not be accommodated for on this forum? Outside this forum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazooie Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, 6tails said: Without an actual society to prop you up,, you wouldn't survive. i feel like this statement applies to something like 80% of the populace 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, 6tails said: You're trying to tel that to someone who's been crushed by a truck. I don't play the Ableist game because it's a bad game weak-minded and LAZY idiots use to excuse themselves. He actually has been crushed by a truck and does not play the victim card in regards to that fact. He's many things but not a fan of labels. He is himself. Which is rare these days in a world where people are ready to slap labels all over themselves as a substitute for a personality or personal identity. He definitely has a strong and unique personality. Free speech accommodates everyone equally. That's how it should be and feelings about what everyone finds offensive are totally subjective and up to interpretation by the individual. Also if you choose to be offended by something that is your individual choice. Nobody can make you feel offended. Giving an insult weight is something that your own brain does. People call me names all the time. I choose not to believe them. He and I are actually quite similar in a lot of ways. You should hang out in the cooking chat some time and give him a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 what a bunch of faggios 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I smell another YouTube video coming on! Is that a infraction topping and a side of butt hurt on both sides? Saying what is politically correct doesn't change the feeling of that person or what that person is actually intending when they speak. It is basically censorship that is trying to spare feelings of people who cannot deal with the harsher side of the real world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Some people do let themselves get offended for no reason. Like, if a black man calls another black man his "nigga" in a friendly manner, and someone nearby gets offended, it's like, really dude? You should get upset at things that are actually upsetting, not the way people's vocal cords make sound while they affectionately talk to their friends. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 @Another Ampers& what I said was a quip at you and @6tails. But he did say you take things too personally. Anywho, I'll let the both of you continue to try hard to convert each other to opposite ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Another Ampers& said: Your recanting isn't befitting of you, really. I know you're stronger and more beautiful than that I know that I'm trash and you shouldn't be concerned for my emotions but I still have a degree of patience, you know? There are people who could be putting cigarettes out on my skin right now This doesn't help your side of the debate. You're only proving his point. (Probably ironically or something) *shrug* You're strong enough to be opinionated about this subject. If only you didn't take a lot of it as a personal attack, you would be taken more seriously. The victim role doesn't suit you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Everybody here giving each other roles like it's a D&D game goddamn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falaffel Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, Lucyfish said: Everybody here giving each other roles like it's a D&D game goddamn and no one rolled for initiative :c 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Enigma said: The victim role doesn't suit you. Can it suit me? My measurements are 40-26-60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lucyfish said: Everybody here giving each other roles like it's a D&D game goddamn Don't ask me to be the cleric. I always get stuck playing the cleric. Which is ironic.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, #00Buck said: Don't ask me to be the cleric. I always get stuck playing the cleric. Which is ironic.. Bro I am ALWAYS the one stuck picking Lucio in Overwatch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Falaffel said: and no one rolled for initiative :c I think there is a different type of role playing going on. BTW I always liked 2nd edition D&D best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Lucyfish said: Bro I am ALWAYS the one stuck picking Lucio in Overwatch Play Mei. Headshots are easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, XoPachi said: Play Mei. Headshots are easy. I have self respect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Lucyfish said: Bro I am ALWAYS the one stuck picking Lucio in Overwatch At least you have overwatch. I have to play Team Fortress 2 instead. As the pyro. That's non ironic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, XoPachi said: Can it suit me? My measurements are 40-26-60. It suits no one. People should become stronger from hardships, not try to make the world softer. We should strive to be stronger and kinder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, Lucyfish said: I have self respect Are you insinuating that I meant freeze them first? Because I forgot what her left click does. :y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, #00Buck said: At least you have overwatch. I have to play Team Fortress 2 instead. As the pyro. That's non ironic. tbh if I had $40 to spare I'd get you OW. It's a super fun game and more furfags need to play it. 1 minute ago, XoPachi said: Are you insinuating that I meant freeze them first? Because I forgot what her left click does. :y Self. Respect. Thank God I derailed this thread with Overwatch talk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, Lucyfish said: tbh if I had $40 to spare I'd get you OW. It's a super fun game and more furfags need to play it. Wow I was under the impression that you didn't like me so much. Now I think we're bonding. This is alarming. This thread is strange... *swims sideways* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, #00Buck said: Wow I was under the impression that you didn't like me so much. Now I think we're bonding. This is alarming. This thread is strange... *swims sideways* I may have problems with people, but after some time I'm always willing to cool down and try friendliness again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Lucyfish said: I may have problems with people, but after some time I'm always willing to cool down and try friendliness again. Oh, alright. We're friends then! *swims in a loop de lopp* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Lucyfish said: I may have problems with people, but after some time I'm always willing to cool down and try friendliness again. Is that your ultimate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, #00Buck said: Oh, alright. We're friends then! *swims in a loop de lopp* Wow don't assume things of me YOU DONT OWN ME Just now, Enigma said: Is that your ultimate? "Heroes never flop" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikugemu Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Mei is bae. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshabi Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 14 minutes ago, Another Ampers& said: Your recanting isn't befitting of you, really. I know you're stronger and more beautiful than that I know that I'm trash and you shouldn't be concerned for my emotions but I still have a degree of patience, you know? There are people who could be putting cigarettes out on my skin right now What the fuck is this emo anime shonen forum character bullshit? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, Lucyfish said: Wow don't assume things of me YOU DONT OWN ME "Heroes never flop" Mom!!! Lucy is jumping to conclusions about me!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Taikugemu said: Mei is bae. Her clothes are disgusting and she wears way too much makeup. Mei is WHORE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 People are starting to like me. I am dangerously close to losing my un-popufur status. I better do something really offensive soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Lucyfish said: Her clothes are disgusting and she wears way too much makeup. Mei is WHORE she fine tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Roadhouse is one of the best tanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikugemu Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Lucyfish said: Her clothes are disgusting and she wears way too much makeup. Mei is WHORE ARE YOU SLUT SHAMING HER??????? I'll send my tumblr post where I insult and find you problematic later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, XoPachi said: she fine tho Pick her abominable outfit and turn her model around. She has literally no ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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