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Milo's a smug little shit, and I hope he gets his someday.

That said, that's a nice piece of art.

A scalie Youtuber named Kothorix did a nice little deconstruction of a clickbait article that claimed that furries were accusing Milo of "cultural appropriation." The only comments Kothorix could find on Twitter and Facebook were of furries complaining about the SJW furries, and speculating that such furries might accuse Milo of things like cultural appropriation. It was a nice little example of how the media has learned how to string people along with the SJW/anti-SJW war.

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49 minutes ago, Aouzy said:

This thread in a nutshell

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This is in the related videos and I thought it was really neat. This feminist ended up becoming more open minded and now better understands some of the psychology behind men. I'm glad she ran into a good group of guys at the bowling alley instead of some shitheads or this experiment would've further confirmed her generalized beliefs.

 

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What amuses me most about him is how he causes conservative heads to explode, where they go "Yeah! What he said! I agree with him!!!" and then "Wait, he's a homofag? Oh crap! I don't get it! Am I gay for agreeing with him?!" (to which Milo would probably say "Yes, yes you are").

That, and he also makes liberal heads explode, because they assume all gays are liberals and SJWs, and he's like some sort of a massive betrayal.

And he milks both of those outrages by being so smug about it.

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20 hours ago, Rassah said:

What amuses me most about him is how he causes conservative heads to explode, where they go "Yeah! What he said! I agree with him!!!" and then "Wait, he's a homofag? Oh crap! I don't get it! Am I gay for agreeing with him?!" (to which Milo would probably say "Yes, yes you are").

That, and he also makes liberal heads explode, because they assume all gays are liberals and SJWs, and he's like some sort of a massive betrayal.

And he milks both of those outrages by being so smug about it.

So basically...a troll.

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3 hours ago, Saxon said:

I guess the milking is trolling.

I find it depressing that merely holding opinions that most people don't expect gay people to hold is considered provocative, if I'm honest.

I don't. Take away all the faggotry they identify with, and you find out that all us gay folk are nothing but self-important meat just like everyone else.

I've listened to some of his speeches and it's the same tactic many use to either piss people off, or have people agree with the extreme POV. The funny thing about it is that it shows how people take him seriously to the point of treating his use of Poe's law like a gospel. 

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Why am I not surprised that Rassah would love this guy?

Actually, I am a bit surprised. Breitbart is pretty mainstream conservative and true believers of Trump. I'd be surprised if Rassah was any of those.

 

1 hour ago, Saxon said:

I guess the milking is trolling.

I find it depressing that merely holding opinions that most people don't expect gay people to hold is considered provocative, if I'm honest.

I find it depressing that people don't seem to read my (admittedly tl;dr) posts where I say that I don't like the guy's opinions, not the fact he's gay.

And I think I explained that mainstream conservatism in the US tends to be pretty hostile towards the rights of LGBT usually because JESUS. It's along the lines of "You hang out with people who think Gay is a biblican sin and don't want you to marry, or let trans people use the proper bathroom?"

Gays can be whatever political orientation they want to be. And I can disagree with their opinions.

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I can give someone begrudging respect if they appear sincere in their convictions and can argue articulately for their point of view.

It's unfair to accuse someone of being "just a troll" just because they hold controversial, surprising, irrational, or stupid opinions.

That said, Milo certainly appears to relish making himself the center of attention and controversy by tweaking people. Who knows how much he actually buys into what he's selling, but true believer or no, he loves to intentionally provoke and razz people. In that sense, he's definitely a troll.

At the end of the day, he's a young gay Ann Coulter.

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50 minutes ago, Troj said:

I can give someone begrudging respect if they appear sincere in their convictions and can argue articulately for their point of view.

It's unfair to accuse someone of being "just a troll" just because they hold controversial, surprising, irrational, or stupid opinions.

That said, Milo certainly appears to relish making himself the center of attention and controversy by tweaking people. Who knows how much he actually buys into what he's selling, but true believer or no, he loves to intentionally provoke and razz people. In that sense, he's definitely a troll.

At the end of the day, he's a young gay Ann Coulter.

I relish how much you are all talking about him!

It's delicious! 

Enjoy some drag and the national anthem!

 

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1 hour ago, Crazy Lee said:

And I think I explained that mainstream conservatism in the US tends to be pretty hostile towards the rights of LGBT usually because JESUS. It's along the lines of "You hang out with people who think Gay is a biblican sin and don't want you to marry, or let trans people use the proper bathroom?"
 

People are willing to compromise here and there when there are bigger things at stake, and they're often willing to overlook a person's shortcomings if they possess the right strengths as a counterbalance. (See: the number of people who are reluctantly supporting Hillary Clinton, because they see her as the lesser evil.)

Several social commentators have noted that even the alt-right is happy to embrace gays or non-whites who share their core beliefs and hate the same people they do, and that right-wing Christian evangelicals are overwhelmingly rallying behind Trump, in spite of his blatant ignorance of the Bible, his "impure" lifestyle, and his "New York values."

Because they're concerned about being perceived as bigoted, mainstream conservatives will often leap at the chance to lionize a minority who shares their values, to prove that they aren't hateful or prejudiced. We've traditionally seen this more with racial minorities, but maybe we're going to start to see it more with sexual minorities, too.

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I don't see the big deal behind Milo either, at the end of the day he is just riding on the tail off of a political social movement that has arisen in the US and

profiting from it by adopting a pseudo-celebrity status amongst the populace as result from stoking controversy in the past on the media.

 

Appreciating the statements and opinions in which Milo states is one thing, but to adopt him as some form of figurehead would be a folly on his supporter's behalf.

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9 hours ago, Troj said:

People are willing to compromise here and there when there are bigger things at stake, and they're often willing to overlook a person's shortcomings if they possess the right strengths as a counterbalance. (See: the number of people who are reluctantly supporting Hillary Clinton, because they see her as the lesser evil.)

Several social commentators have noted that even the alt-right is happy to embrace gays or non-whites who share their core beliefs and hate the same people they do, and that right-wing Christian evangelicals are overwhelmingly rallying behind Trump, in spite of his blatant ignorance of the Bible, his "impure" lifestyle, and his "New York values."

Because they're concerned about being perceived as bigoted, mainstream conservatives will often leap at the chance to lionize a minority who shares their values, to prove that they aren't hateful or prejudiced. We've traditionally seen this more with racial minorities, but maybe we're going to start to see it more with sexual minorities, too.

I was under the impression that the alternative right differed from the conventional religious-right because they didn't support religious orthodoxy, such as the persecution of homosexuals.

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30 minutes ago, Saxon said:

I was under the impression that the alternative right differed from the conventional religious-right because they didn't support religious orthodoxy, such as the persecution of homosexuals.

The alt-right is not a very homogenous group so it really depends on who you talk to. 

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23 minutes ago, Saxon said:

I suppose. Almost my entire impression of the alt right was from Milo.

 

 

In the alt-right, you have various groups, you have the 1488 stormfags that claim that dem joos did everything and Mussolini fascists (and it seems to be the only faction the media sees), then you have people who want an Augusto Pinochet style government (which explains the large amount of "throw socialists out of helicopters" memes you see among alt-righties), then you have neoreactionaries and monarchists, then you have just regular conservaties (also libertarians in some cases) who want more border security, and those groups are only the ones I can think off the top of my head. 

 

The main unifying points for the alt right is that reject multiculturalism and immigration from places like MENA or most of Latin America at the least, they all really hate leftism, and they tend to reject many progressive beliefs like "race/gender is a social construct" or "all cultures are the same." 

 

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1 hour ago, Saxon said:

I was under the impression that the alternative right differed from the conventional religious-right because they didn't support religious orthodoxy, such as the persecution of homosexuals.

You're right--they're generally not as religious as the mainstream right. But, you don't need religion to be harbor homophobic attitudes, or espouse views that the modern liberal would see as homophobic.

Lots of people (self included) are still puzzled by the alt-right because they're used to mainstream conservatives.

40 minutes ago, BlitzCo said:

In the alt-right, you have various groups, you have the 1488 stormfags that claim that dem joos did everything and Mussolini fascists (and it seems to be the only faction the media sees), then you have people who want an Augusto Pinochet style government (which explains the large amount of "throw socialists out of helicopters" memes you see among alt-righties), then you have neoreactionaries and monarchists, then you have just regular conservaties (also libertarians in some cases) who want more border security, and those groups are only the ones I can think off the top of my head.

The main unifying points for the alt right is that reject multiculturalism and immigration from places like MENA or most of Latin America at the least, they all really hate leftism, and they tend to reject many progressive beliefs like "race/gender is a social construct" or "all cultures are the same."

That's a pretty accurate assessment, I'd say.

What worries me about the alt-right is that it also seems to attract Millennials who are burned out from SJW leftism and political correctness, see alt-right humor and cultural critiques as a breath of fresh air, and don't realize when they've begun to cross into the realm of actual fascism because they've never studied history or psychology.

I think what angers me the most about Milo (and Trump, incidentally) is that he's very cavalier about ideologically cock-teasing some very dangerous and deluded people, and either doesn't understand the damage that can do, or doesn't care, or both.

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3 hours ago, Troj said:

You're right--they're generally not as religious as the mainstream right. But, you don't need religion to be harbor homophobic attitudes, or espouse views that the modern liberal would see as homophobic.

Lots of people (self included) are still puzzled by the alt-right because they're used to mainstream conservatives.

That's a pretty accurate assessment, I'd say.

What worries me about the alt-right is that it also seems to attract Millennials who are burned out from SJW leftism and political correctness, see alt-right humor and cultural critiques as a breath of fresh air, and don't realize when they've begun to cross into the realm of actual fascism because they've never studied history or psychology.

I think what angers me the most about Milo (and Trump, incidentally) is that he's very cavalier about ideologically cock-teasing some very dangerous and deluded people, and either doesn't understand the damage that can do, or doesn't care, or both.

What I find most frustrating about the new right is that they often behave in the very same way as the social-justice-warriors they are criticising.

For example they often assume that if you agree with them on one issue then you owe them your allegiance to agree on other unrelated issues. They take up a lot of political positions out of contrarianism and if they discover that somebody disagrees with them many will just resort to insults and bullying campaigns to try to make people agree with them, instead of trying to convince others with reason.

 

I think they are much more like each other than they would care to admit.

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5 hours ago, BlitzCo said:

The alt-right is not a very homogenous group so it really depends on who you talk to. 

 

5 hours ago, Saxon said:

I suppose. Almost my entire impression of the alt right was from Milo.

IMHO alt-right is just for an umbrella term for various kinds of people who aren't your vanilla conservative that abandons their convictions and ultimately go for what SJW-types love (e.g. Merkel).

A lot of them are libertarian/ancap, some are downright fashy, but neither of those things could be further apart from one another. I don't think I've seen anything that's "alt right" in a consistent, coherent sense that can be pinned down save for a broad definition.

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2 hours ago, Saxon said:

What I find most frustrating about the new right is that they often behave in the very same way as the social-justice-warriors they are criticising.

For example they often assume that if you agree with them on one issue then you owe them your allegiance to agree on other unrelated issues. They take up a lot of political positions out of contrarianism and if they discover that somebody disagrees with them many will just resort to insults and bullying campaigns to try to make people agree with them, instead of trying to convince others with reason.

I think they are much more like each other than they would care to admit.

Ding-ding-ding! I tend to think that all zealots, ideologues, and authoritarians share a common cluster of personality traits and loose psychological screws.

 

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1 minute ago, Troj said:

Ding-ding-ding! I tend to think that all zealots, ideologues, and authoritarians share a common cluster of personality traits and loose psychological screws.

 

Whether they become a member of the Alt right or a SJW is just a matter of who gets to them first. ;3

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59 minutes ago, Saxon said:

Whether they become a member of the Alt right or a SJW is just a matter of who gets to them first. ;3

so glad I got taken into the loving arms of the sjw mother (a large fleshy moth deep below the surface of the earth) to keep my loose psychological screws from translating into hating black ppl

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11 hours ago, Saxon said:

I was under the impression that the alternative right differed from the conventional religious-right because they didn't support religious orthodoxy, such as the persecution of homosexuals.

They are like..."Earth 3" SJWs if that makes any sense.

Or kind of like, reverse SJWs.

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3 hours ago, #00Buck said:

I created the Milo thread.

That makes me fabulous. 

No you aren't. You are a fish, and not a gay one. Just food.

3 hours ago, #00Buck said:

I'm clearly the Milo of this forum. 

Nobody else is Trump-kin like I am. 

You wish. At best, you are one of his fanboys that wishes to be as glorious as he is. In DC terms, he is Glorious Godfrey and you are just some Parademon tasked with being his roadie by Darkseid. 

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3 hours ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

And nobody is quite as fabulous as Milo.

I am sure there's someone here that has the fashion sense of a gay club prostitute. 

3 hours ago, #00Buck said:

Gay for Trump. 

You and a million other people that would want to be fudge-packed by Trump. :V

#CUMMIES4TRUMP2016 

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4 hours ago, Saxon said:

Whether they become a member of the Alt right or a SJW is just a matter of who gets to them first. ;3

Well, and people like Michael Savage have actually been both!

There are probably factors which can predict which way someone will lean--including who gets to them first--but I've certainly known some people who've changed their life philosophy and raison d'etre as often as most folks change pants. Some people only know how to operate in terms of extremes. Meanwhile, out-and-out predators will change their tune and their plumage based on where they can net the fattest, juiciest prey/followers.

Of course, this is always mandatory reading:

http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

And also this:

http://evelynbrooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/The_True_Believer_-_Eric_Hoffer.pdf

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