Deskai Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 all I learn is whom was the one that got me banned, but I also learned who fought to get me unbanned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor-933 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 21 hours ago, Zeke said: kek ToxicAudri's FA got suspended for trying to call attention to this brewing shitstorm. "If we keep hiding the problem from our userbase, it's no longer a problem!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socketosis Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 18 minutes ago, Victor-933 said: "If we keep hiding the problem from our userbase, it's no longer a problem!" Yet it somehow works for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I doubt that Toxic was banned for hiding a problem which everybody can find out about easily on twitter. I think deliberately redistributing users' details because you don't like their opinions was probably perceived as pernicious and sniping behaviour. Re-posting somebody's identification to prove a point because you heard them say they're not worried about it is horrible behaviour. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socketosis Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 10 hours ago, Saxon said: I doubt that Toxic was banned for hiding a problem which everybody can find out about easily on twitter. I think deliberately redistributing users' details because you don't like their opinions was probably perceived as pernicious and sniping behaviour. Re-posting somebody's identification to prove a point because you heard them say they're not worried about it is horrible behaviour. I think it was moreso because he kept spamming Dragoneer about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor-933 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Socketosis said: I think it was moreso because he kept spamming Dragoneer about it. Well, under California state law, companies must inform their customers of any potential data breaches containing personal information. IMVU, FA's parent company, is based in California. IMVU/Neer are legally required to issue a notification and they're refusing -- apparently Neer has known about these leaks for a week, so he's probably just hoping it'll blow over like every other scandal. Judging by their twitter, ToxicAudri is trying to get the CA Attorney General's office involved now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I think that we already were informed that the site was hacked, so I would have thought the notification of loss of any information submitted to the site is implicit. I'm not sure whether spelling it out on the site could have negative repercussions as it could motivate people to sift through the stolen data who otherwise wouldn't have, although I'm sure a thousand crooks already have. :\ Overall I'm just very surprised that anybody who views themselves as a moral authority 'teaching somebody a lesson' about web security would deliberately make third parties' data accessible to criminals. At that point they're not 'helpful people pointing out a flaw in the system', they're just regular accessories to crime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor-933 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Saxon said: I think that we already were informed that the site was hacked, so I would have thought the notification of loss of any information submitted to the site is implicit. I'm not sure whether spelling it out on the site could have negative repercussions as it could motivate people to sift through the stolen data who otherwise wouldn't have, although I'm sure a thousand crooks already have. :\ We were notified that usernames and passwords were leaked. It's now painfully obvious that the hack went much farther than what we were originally told, and there are now driver's licenses and other photo ID's (required by FA staff to remove age locks) that are being dumped with this latest leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, Victor-933 said: We were notified that usernames and passwords were leaked. It's now painfully obvious that the hack went much farther than what we were originally told, and there are now driver's licenses and other photo ID's (required by FA staff to remove age locks) that are being dumped with this latest leak. Yes, an additional announcement to make that clear is appropriate. It is frustrating that there are people out there who don't have any qualms about releasing people's photo identities en masse to the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalmor Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 7 hours ago, Victor-933 said: Judging by their twitter, ToxicAudri is trying to get the CA Attorney General's office involved now. aka: Shit's getting real. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socketosis Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 7 hours ago, Saxon said: I think that we already were informed that the site was hacked, so I would have thought the notification of loss of any information submitted to the site is implicit. I'm not sure whether spelling it out on the site could have negative repercussions as it could motivate people to sift through the stolen data who otherwise wouldn't have, although I'm sure a thousand crooks already have. :\ Overall I'm just very surprised that anybody who views themselves as a moral authority 'teaching somebody a lesson' about web security would deliberately make third parties' data accessible to criminals. At that point they're not 'helpful people pointing out a flaw in the system', they're just regular accessories to crime. Where was it claimed that was their intention? If they wanted to teach him a lesson, why are they slowly dribbling out parts of the leak instead of doing something Dragoneer can't ignore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Is this not imvu's fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, Socketosis said: Where was it claimed that was their intention? If they wanted to teach him a lesson, why are they slowly dribbling out parts of the leak instead of doing something Dragoneer can't ignore? No statement, some users simply speculated about it on page 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMT Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 ToxicAudri just got permabanned for alleged temp-ban evasion. According to her Twitter feed, she denied registering the whistleblower account when its ban was brought to her attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMT Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) I finally had the chance to go through all the tickets I handled during my stint as an FA admin, and neither I nor any user whose account I handled posted SPI to my tickets. I had intended to warn such FA users myself if there was any, but I guess I recognized the permanence of FA's ticket system. IDK about notes, though; I deleted all of mine as soon as I no longer needed them. [Edit: All of my notes with anything sensitive, that is.] Edited October 17, 2016 by ArielMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewalk Surfboard Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Hot furry dramaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socketosis Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 25 minutes ago, ArielMT said: ToxicAudri just got permabanned for alleged temp-ban evasion. According to her Twitter feed, she denied registering the whistleblower account when its ban was brought to her attention. Why do they put PERMANENTLY BANNED in all caps? It makes their statements sound angrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor-933 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Gamedog said: Is this not imvu's fault? It could probably be pinned on them, yeah. I just checked the CA AG Data Breach site -- no notifications have been filed regarding this. Since IMVU is headquartered in CA they're subject to the state's Data Breach Reporting law -- and currently in violation of it. https://oag.ca.gov/ecrime/databreach/reporting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMT Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 34 minutes ago, Socketosis said: Why do they put PERMANENTLY BANNED in all caps? It makes their statements sound angrier. Because that's how the Ivory Tower rolls. That actually looks like Dragoneer's writing style, now that I think about it. 4 hours ago, Gamedog said: Is this not imvu's fault? Whether it's their fault or not, it's definitely their problem now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, ArielMT said: Because that's how the Ivory Tower rolls. That actually looks like Dragoneer's writing style, now that I think about it. Whether it's their fault or not, it's definitely their problem now. Oh I know, was just pointing it out cause people are solely blaming Neer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTDragon Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 On 10/15/2016 at 5:43 PM, Saxon said: I doubt that Toxic was banned for hiding a problem which everybody can find out about easily on twitter. I think deliberately redistributing users' details because you don't like their opinions was probably perceived as pernicious and sniping behaviour. Re-posting somebody's identification to prove a point because you heard them say they're not worried about it is horrible behaviour. Not only that but from their twitter they're posting info there which is only a matter of time before their account end up being suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor-933 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMT Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 And, in a shocking surprise to no one at all, Fur Affinity still has not notified users of the PII dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 On October 25, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Victor-933 said: It would've helped if the person actually taken a picture of said letter. Other than that, it just sounds like someone stirring the piss pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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