No, I don't want to be your friend

[Troj]

4 hours ago, Cross said:

I have took advise from the very best and I had these books about it:

The Game, by Neil Strauss

The Prince, by Machiavelli

The Art of War (twice, excelent book), by Sun Tzu

The Banquent, by Plato

I had read several others book but not related to this, though The Steppenwolf, by Hermann Hesse, has also some very good stuff about it.

And Notes from Underground, by Dostoivky, is also a very good example in how not to be.

Off the top of my head, I'd also add:

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/

How To Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie

The Satanic Witch by Anton LaVey

The Satanic Warlock by Dr. Robert Johnson

Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely

48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene

The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene

The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris

The Lucifer Effect by Philip  Zimbardo

The Lucifer Principle by Howard Bloom

An Actor Prepares by Constantin Stanislavski

Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk

Applied Magic by Michael Kett

Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion by Michael Cialdini

Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman

Circus of Dr. Lao by Charles Finney

Something Wicked This Way Comes by Ray Bradbury

Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You by Peter Cameron

Ghost World by Daniel Clowes

+++++

In any case, most sane, savvy, healthy, self-respecting people will run away screaming from anyone who radiates frantic desperation, self-hatred, or disdain for other people, or who regularly treats other people like they're only means to an end.

I also think most people are shitty dates and garbage mates until they've gained some maturity and life experience. Your first relationships will typically be rocky, because you're valuing all the wrong things in all the wrong people, and because other people in your cohort are doing the same.

I would've taken to Redpill stuff like a moth to a flame if it'd been around when I was younger, and it probably would've made me even more unpalatable to other people for a longer stretch of time--and that's saying something, given how absolutely creepy I was at one point.

[kazooie]

1 hour ago, Cross said:

You are right though, it's time for me to leave it behind

let's ditch these dorks and go spend time with our respective sexual partners instead, yes

[Imperial Impact]

On 12/6/2016 at 8:08 AM, SirRob said:

Sorry, I just thought you were a nice guy is all. If you don't want to be friends you should have just told me instead of the world.

What a whore.

[Cross]

3 hours ago, Troj said:

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I don't know much about all of that, but I think Robert Greene is kind of, evil, so I avoided it, it is not my intention to manipulate people, that is something I am very, very, against of. I do agree with Aleister Crowley in some stuff though. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law'' and ''Love is the law, love under will."

3 hours ago, kazooie said:

let's ditch these dorks and go spend time with our respective sexual partners instead, yes

Agree, best thing I could possibly do, but I got to study =/ I have a very important exam on tuesday.

_

The thing that has been around my head for some time now, is that maybe it's best to have less friends, but more quality. Like having a few of real meaningful friendships, rather than dozens of meaningless ones.

[Silo]

11 minutes ago, Cross said:

The thing that has been around my head for some time now, is that maybe it's best to have less friends, but more quality. Like having a few of real meaningful relationships, rather than dozens of meaningless ones.

You don't find this ironic in the slightest?

[Cross]

9 minutes ago, Silo said:

You don't find this ironic in the slightest?

I'm not taking about sex here

Little mistake, replace relationship with friendship

[Troj]

29 minutes ago, Cross said:

I don't know much about all of that, but I think Robert Greene is kind of, evil, so I avoided it, it is not my intention to manipulate people, that is something I am very, very, against of. I do agree with Aleister Crowley in some stuff though. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law'' and ''Love is the law, love under will."

Some of Greene's advice is definitely amoral at least, and evil at the most. But, I think it can be helpful to know about those techniques, how they're used, and why they work, even if you've made the choice to not use them yourself.

[Azure]

Nothing wrong with having a hookup turn into a pal. Hell you might get to have "tea" regularly without the need for a deeper relationship. If you don't dig her why did ya holler in the furst place?

[Cross]

1 hour ago, Troj said:

Some of Greene's advice is definitely amoral at least, and evil at the most. But, I think it can be helpful to know about those techniques, how they're used, and why they work, even if you've made the choice to not use them yourself.

Hmm, yea I agree with that, same reason why I had read machiavelli's book, which I also think is evil, it's actually very useful to know about this stuff to prevent it to be used on you, though that kind of power can be tempting, and there are some things that once learned can't be unlearned.

34 minutes ago, Azure said:

Nothing wrong with having a hookup turn into a pal. Hell you might get to have "tea" regularly without the need for a deeper relationship. If you don't dig her why did ya holler in the furst place?

That would have been fine, but she is not interested in having tea anymore.

I was horny.

[Troj]

Oh, and I think it's fine to not want to be "just friends" with someone, and only be interested in a hookup, a romantic relationship, or a primarily-sexual relationship, as long as you don't string the other person along, or force them into something they don't want.

You do have to treat people with basic respect, kindness, and courtesy, but you don't have to have "pure" or "virtuous" thoughts or intentions all the time. It's fine to just want to fuck somebody.

[Fossa]

Huh. Well, I'll have to give the OP credit for this: If the thread was a way of seeking attention and getting feedback it certainly worked...I don't think there's been a thread with so many replies in months. 

As for books to learn things from:

Read:

Journey to the End of the Night, L.F. Celine

The Magic Mountain, Thomas Mann

The Book of Nightmares, Galway Kinnell

My Life In the Bush of Ghosts, Amos Tutuola

McTeague, Frank Norris

Sister Carrie, Theodore Dreiser

[Cross]

1 hour ago, Fossa-Boy said:

Huh. Well, I'll have to give the OP credit for this: If the thread was a way of seeking attention and getting feedback it certainly worked...I don't think there's been a thread with so many replies in months. 

As for books to learn things from:

Read:

Journey to the End of the Night, L.F. Celine

The Magic Mountain, Thomas Mann

The Book of Nightmares, Galway Kinnell

My Life In the Bush of Ghosts, Amos Tutuola

McTeague, Frank Norris

Sister Carrie, Theodore Dreiser

You have some pretty dark taste in books

[Fossa]

Just now, Cross said:

You have some pretty dark taste in books

Huh, that is true. I guess it reflects a certain darkness within me, that is not always apparent, but has always been there. So that in some way, such books calm me, somehow. Even the poetry of Anne Sexton And Sylvia Plath have a certain soothing effect, when I'm in an 'extreme' mood. It's as if I feel less alone, and somehow, comforted. 

[ZorroValdez]

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[kazooie]

8 hours ago, Troj said:

It's fine to just want to fuck somebody.

i've never quite understood the appeal of the whole "one-night-stand" type deal. half the fun of sexual partnerships is the person themselves - if all one wants do is get off, why not just look at porn instead?

[Vallium]

14 minutes ago, kazooie said:

i've never quite understood the appeal of the whole "one-night-stand" type deal. the majority of the fun of sexual partnerships is the person themselves - if all one wants do is get off, why not just look at porn instead?

I find this to be the case most the time as well, but I guess people just like the actual sex aspect. Most people only get off to porns because they imagine being intimate with another human, and if you can fulfill that one way or another it takes away the need for imagination or material to get off on when theres some stimulation in front of you.

 

Still...its more intimate to be intimate with a partner than a random person, but thats just me.

[Fossa]

15 minutes ago, kazooie said:

i've never quite understood the appeal of the whole "one-night-stand" type deal. the majority of the fun of sexual partnerships is the person themselves - if all one wants do is get off, why not just look at porn instead?

This would be an excellent topic for its own thread. I've also found that its not possible for me to have 'just sex' with a person; I have to at least get to know and like them. And even with crushes on people I have not really known, part of the fantasy fills in an imagined 'personality', which becomes as much of the appeal as anything. But maybe I'll elaborate on this in another thread, as much of what I have to say would be tangential, and more about those with a primary partner, but also, what I would call 'limited romantic polyamory': a friend to help fulfill certain other needs/desires/fetishes not met in the primary relationship, but not just any yahoo or stranger.

[Troj]

3 hours ago, kazooie said:

i've never quite understood the appeal of the whole "one-night-stand" type deal. half the fun of sexual partnerships is the person themselves - if all one wants do is get off, why not just look at porn instead?

To each their own, but sometimes, you just want to enjoy the feel of another warm body and a bit of friendly banter, but you don't want the additional long-term entanglements and obligations that come from actually being in a relationship.

A one-night-stand is ideal when you're keen or curious to take somebody for a ride because they're fun and attractive, but you know (or you should) that you're not actually compatible in the grand scheme of things. Some people get themselves roped into unworkable or unhealthy relationships because they've confused lust with love.

[Shiro]

12 hours ago, Troj said:

It's fine to just want to fuck somebody.

That kind of mindset is not one I can ever seem to understand. I can't wrap my head around the fact that one night stand's are even a thing, and that people are so desperate to insert their prick into something, that they would go as far as to just hit up random strangers to do so. In conclusion, I want to understand how people "just want to fuck somebody" and that's enough to satisfy them, because that seems like a depressing and empty way to fufill your sexual desires. But in the end, it's my opinion, and mine alone. I just wish I could better understand why people do what they do just to get off sometimes.

[kazooie]

24 minutes ago, Troj said:

To each their own, but sometimes, you just want to enjoy the feel of another warm body and a bit of friendly banter, but you don't want the additional long-term entanglements and obligations that come from actually being in a relationship.

A one-night-stand is ideal when you're keen or curious to take somebody for a ride because they're fun and attractive, but you know (or you should) that you're not actually compatible in the grand scheme of things. Some people get themselves roped into unworkable or unhealthy relationships because they've confused lust with love.

being in a sexual relationship doesn't need to entail love or long term obligations, you know. i mean, there are definitely people out there who believe that, but you can just, sort of, have sex with fellow consenting adults. maybe the people i hang out with are a bunch of huge liberal cucks who preform strange rituals to David Karp every full moon, but, from what ive seen, people who actually have experience with sex & relationships really don't see sex as that big a deal

[U-235]

44 minutes ago, kazooie said:

being in a sexual relationship doesn't need to entail love or long term obligations, you know. i mean, there are definitely people out there who believe that, but you can just, sort of, have sex with fellow consenting adults. maybe the people i hang out with are a bunch of huge liberal cucks who preform strange rituals to David Karp every full moon, but, from what ive seen, people who actually have experience with sex & relationships really don't see sex as that big a deal

So not trying to start an argument, but seriously, why do republicans/conservatives always seem to resort to name calling? With every political thread on Facebook the term "cuck" seems to always be used in a derogatory fashion (from what I've seen mostly by republicans and conservatives. Does it mean something new now).  Your argument/statement is reasonable, but the name calling easily alienates any of your audience who's not conservative and who may otherwise agree (I'm mostly referring to moderates or even liberals who agree with you). It just deteriorates the quality of the statement makes people less likely to believe statements you make, even if they are based on factual evidence. Just a suggestion for the future.  

[Red Lion]

3 hours ago, Troj said:

To each their own, but sometimes, you just want to enjoy the feel of another warm body and a bit of friendly banter, but you don't want the additional long-term entanglements and obligations that come from actually being in a relationship.

A one-night-stand is ideal when you're keen or curious to take somebody for a ride because they're fun and attractive, but you know (or you should) that you're not actually compatible in the grand scheme of things. Some people get themselves roped into unworkable or unhealthy relationships because they've confused lust with love.

True, as long as it's all consensual and no one is under any false impressions when then jump in bed together, you can do p much whatever you want.

But make sure your partners know upfront who they're going to bed with and where they can expect things to go. I don't actually think most people in this thread are all that assed about who has one night stands and who doesn't. Problem with the OP is that his posts come off as disgustingly posturing, narcissistic and sexist. He said this: 

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Btw, I already had 'tea' with this woman, but instend of leaving me the #$%& alone, she keeps texting me, and even though she won't have 'tea' with me again, as allegally she likes some other guy, she stills wants to chat with me, hell no, #$%& that, go chat that other dude

Seems like  he was willing to keep talking to this woman as long as she was willing to have sex with him, which comes off like he's only willing to be nice to her if it gets him in her pants. Most of the people on this site are not going to relate to this kind of attitude towards sex and women but I doubt they have any real problems with one night stands in general. 

[Zaraphayx]

My favorite thing to do, fursonally, is universalize my preferences and imply that all deviations from them are abhorrent.

[Troj]

6 hours ago, Shiro said:

That kind of mindset is not one I can ever seem to understand. I can't wrap my head around the fact that one night stand's are even a thing, and that people are so desperate to insert their prick into something, that they would go as far as to just hit up random strangers to do so. In conclusion, I want to understand how people "just want to fuck somebody" and that's enough to satisfy them, because that seems like a depressing and empty way to fufill your sexual desires. But in the end, it's my opinion, and mine alone. I just wish I could better understand why people do what they do just to get off sometimes.

Personally, I don't understand how people can bang random strangers, because that seems pretty risky to me. But, like I said, to each their own. If you're willing to accept and manage the consequences of your actions, then shine on, you crazy diamond.

But, I totally understand hooking up with a friend, acquaintance, or somebody you at least know something about.

Well, and when I say that hookups are fine, fuck-friends are fine, or that just lusting after someone is fine, I just mean that it's normal and acceptable. Whether or not those urges or behaviors are evolved, fulfilling, or healthy is another question altogether, and I'd say it depends on context.

6 hours ago, kazooie said:

being in a sexual relationship doesn't need to entail love or long term obligations, you know. i mean, there are definitely people out there who believe that, but you can just, sort of, have sex with fellow consenting adults. maybe the people i hang out with are a bunch of huge liberal cucks who preform strange rituals to David Karp every full moon, but, from what ive seen, people who actually have experience with sex & relationships really don't see sex as that big a deal

I never said otherwise?

Yes, you can just have sex with no strings attached. Some people like that, some people don't, and some people who think they'll like it realize that they don't have the right personality for it after the fact. Like I said, to teach their own.

6 hours ago, U-235 said:

So not trying to start an argument, but seriously, why do republicans/conservatives always seem to resort to name calling? With every political thread on Facebook the term "cuck" seems to always be used in a derogatory fashion (from what I've seen mostly by republicans and conservatives. Does it mean something new now).  Your argument/statement is reasonable, but the name calling easily alienates any of your audience who's not conservative and who may otherwise agree (I'm mostly referring to moderates or even liberals who agree with you). It just deteriorates the quality of the statement makes people less likely to believe statements you make, even if they are based on factual evidence. Just a suggestion for the future.  

Not to mention, it makes you sound like a kid who's just spouting off words he doesn't understand to sound edgy, smart, or tough. "Hey guys! I learned this dirty word! I'm a badass!"

A cuckold is the husband of an adulteress. When you call a dude a cuck, you're telling him that his wife is so bored or fed up with him that she's fucking other dudes under his nose, and that he's too much of a wimp to stop it, or too much of an idiot to know it's going on, or both.

Sometimes, a cuckold can be someone who gets off on watching their mate fuck someone else, but that's a newer usage of the word.

So, whenever some young idiot on the Internet tries to call me a cuck, I'm more amused and puzzled than anything else.

Of course, words can absolutely change meaning over time, but my sense is that a lot of the people who throw "cuck" around weren't clear on its meaning in the first place!

And, to its credit, "cuck" is kind of fun to say, for the same reason "fuck" and "suck" are.

I guess we should be thankful that "faggot" has fallen out of vogue, though?

3 hours ago, Red Lion said:

True, as long as it's all consensual and no one is under any false impressions when then jump in bed together, you can do p much whatever you want.

But make sure your partners know upfront who they're going to bed with and where they can expect things to go. I don't actually think most people in this thread are all that assed about who has one night stands and who doesn't. Problem with the OP is that his posts come off as disgustingly posturing, narcissistic and sexist.

Precisely. Exactly that.

The problem is the entitlement, the narcissism, and the false posturing. The problem isn't just wanting to have sex with someone, or being disappointed or annoyed that a relationship or encounter didn't go the way you wanted it to.

[Cross]

Oh chaos,

Nice

Whatever.

I like to fuck.

[willow]

1 hour ago, Cross said:

I like to fuck.

[Fossa]

Why is it called a one night stand? Is this because there isn't a bed or couch around, so ya do it standing up? Or is it like setting up a stand, where you sell something, only here, you have sex with various people, once? The phrase has always sounded funny to me.

 

[Glowing Glass]

Reading through this entire thread all at once reminded me of this set of videos

[Feelwell]

6 minutes ago, Glowing Glass said:

Reading through this entire thread all at once reminded me of this set of videos

Okay the last kid has some pretty rocking sunglasses.

[MissFleece]

3 hours ago, Cross said:

Oh chaos,

Nice

Whatever.

I like to fuck.

People are trying to help you and you are ignoring them.

Guess what? Most people like to fuck.

Please do not use people for sex.

Please do not trick them or be malicious in any way when you ask someone to share an intimite moment with you. 

Please be a decent person. 

I dont care that you like to have sex or hook up, that's your business. But you're on the road to being a shitty person.

[Thundeere]

Allow the british police to break it down for you

 

[Cross]

1 hour ago, MissFleece said:

People are trying to help you and you are ignoring them.

Guess what? Most people like to fuck.

Please do not use people for sex.

Please do not trick them or be malicious in any way when you ask someone to share an intimite moment with you. 

Please be a decent person. 

I dont care that you like to have sex or hook up, that's your business. But you're on the road to being a shitty person.

No.

[Feelwell]

Just now, Cross said:

No.

Our lord and Savi-fur has spoken.

Everyone, start being dicks.

Dicks are cool too

[Vallium]

Dicks out for Crossrambe

[Silo]

40 minutes ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

Our lord and Savi-fur has spoken.

Everyone, start being dicks.

Dicks are cool too

This works with my transformation fetish :v

[WileyWarWeasel]

8 hours ago, Cross said:

Oh chaos,

Nice

Whatever.

I like to fuck.

I knew it.