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There are people here who have gotten the idea that this site is the place for people to come and feel comfortable about themselves. A place to cast off all societal dignity with the expectation of unconditional  tolerance.

It's not. 

This is a site for people who share a common interest to hang out. Nothing more is to be expected. 

We're not here to make you feel better about your fantasies in the locker room, we're not here to revel in your hotel-room escapades, we're not here have a furpile orgy with one another.

What you're looking for, my friends, is a fetish forum. 

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16 hours ago, Endless/Nameless said:

There are people here who have gotten the idea that this site is the place for people to come and feel comfortable about themselves. A place to cast off all societal dignity with the expectation of unconditional  tolerance.

It's not. 

This is a site for people who share a common interest to hang out. Nothing more is to be expected. 

We're not here to make you feel better about your fantasies in the locker room, we're not here to revel in your hotel-room escapades, we're not here have a furpile orgy with one another.

What you're looking for, my friends, is a fetish forum. 

I get what your saying but I think people on an individual level should be generally accepting in life and not just here on forums. That doesnt necessarily mean be so open and hugboxy and create a "safe space", it just means be willing to and open to respect other opinions and values without turning arguments into a shitstorm. 

There is nothing wrong with being tolerant to other people, its only wrong if you dont have any of your own boundaries for people to respect and let people overrun you with their ideals.

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13 minutes ago, WolfNightV4X1 said:

I get what your saying but I think people on an individual level should be generally accepting in life and not just here on forums. That doesnt necessarily mean be so open and hugboxy and create a "safe space", it just means be willing to and open to respect other opinions and values without turning arguments into a shitstorm. 

There is nothing wrong with being tolerant to other people, its only wrong if you dont have any of your own boundaries for people to respect and let people overrun you with their ideals.

I don't think that's what Endless was addressing at all. More along the lines of people who go too in-depth about their fetishes and go on murrpurr escapades in public spaces.

And I don't think anyone should feel like they have to accept that kind of thing out in the open, when someone is subjecting them to their sex life without their consent and respect to basic social conduct.
That kind of shit's pretty deserving of direct ridicule.

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21 minutes ago, Vae said:

I don't think that's what Endless was addressing at all. More along the lines of people who go too in-depth about their fetishes and go on murrpurr escapades in public spaces.

And I don't think anyone should feel like they have to accept that kind of thing out in the open, when someone is subjecting them to their sex life without their consent and respect to basic social conduct.
That kind of shit's pretty deserving of direct ridicule.

I mustve misread the context then, I hadnt noticed he was exclusively referring to sex, in that case those are best left in personal and private conversations if conversated about at all. Thanks for clarifying that...

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11 minutes ago, Saxon said:

I'm not sure why Endless thought his view, that unwanted sexual advances are unwelcome, would be unpopular and I don't believe there is an epidemic of this behaviour.

I think it's just an easy thing to say to get likes.

It's not just sexual advances. It's subjecting people to the gross intricacies of one's sex life, in general.
We already have a rule against sexual advances now, anyway, which has curbed a lot of that.

If you don't think people overshare, you need to look at the Red Lantern a lot harder.

Also, you're not connected to every space that this community inhabits.
The issue runs more rampant on some other platforms. But it's still a community-related issue.

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Just now, Vae said:

It's not just sexual advances. It's subjecting people to the gross intricacies of one's sex life, in general.
We already have a rule against sexual advances now, anyway, which has curbed a lot of that.

If you don't think people overshare, you need to look at the Red Lantern a lot harder.

Also, you're not connected to every space that this community inhabits.
The issue runs more rampant on some other platforms.

As Zeke implied, the Red lantern is for fetish content. I think people go there in the knowledge there will be sexy content, so I don't think that should be counted.

You're right that I don't use any of the chats associated with this Forum. I don't know what goes on in those.

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21 minutes ago, Saxon said:

As Zeke implied, the Red lantern is for fetish content. I think people go there in the knowledge there will be sexy content, so I don't think that should be counted.

You're right that I don't use any of the chats associated with this Forum. I don't know what goes on in those.

The Red Lantern's existence came as an attempt to corral all of the furry shit that furries do into one space, away from kids, yes. And also give those of us who draw adult art and want to post it a place to do so.

However, no one's required to like that, either. That's kind of the nature of independent opinion.
Also this is unpopular opinions thread. So, well...

There's also a big difference between sharing a picture of your favorite waifu from e621, and talking in-depth about your sex life.

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2 minutes ago, Vae said:

The Red Lantern's existence came as an attempt to corral all of the furry shit that furries do into one space, away from kids, yes. And also give those of us who draw adult art and want to post it a place to do so.

However, no one's required to like that, either. That's kind of the nature of independent opinion.
Also this is unpopular opinions thread. So, well...

There's also a big difference between sharing a picture of your favorite waifu from e621, and talking in-depth about your sex life.

I'll let you and zeke argue this one out.

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1 hour ago, Saxon said:

I'm not sure why Endless thought his view, that unwanted sexual advances are unwelcome, would be unpopular and I don't believe there is an epidemic of this behaviour.

I think it's just an easy thing to say to get likes.

Wait people say things just to get likes?

 

Haha furries are lame! Lik dis if u agree

44 minutes ago, FenrirDarkWolf said:

YOU BLASPHEME

I TRUSTED YOU ;u;

< / 3 Will make up 2 u by giving lots of crawrmels

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1 hour ago, WolfNightV4X1 said:

Wait people say things just to get likes?

 

Haha furries are lame! Lik dis if u agree

It's funny because Endless has nearly double Saxon's P/L ratio.
He's clearly in a position of needing to farm upvotes.

1 hour ago, Saxon said:

I'll let you and zeke argue this one out.

I mean, I was in the mod discussions when RL came into conception. And Zeke hasn't said shit to me about this.
But sure, why not. Lol.

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1 minute ago, Vae said:

It's funny because Endless has nearly double Saxon's P/L ratio.
He's clearly in a position of needing to farm upvotes.

I mean, I was in the mod discussions when RL came into conception. And Zeke hasn't said shit to me about this.
But sure, why not. Lol.

I mostly just thought that his assumption that endless was making a comment just for the likes was silly

 

...you have to have a sad life when your positive rewards come from things you comment on a forum board acquiting upvotes for your sense of virtual self gratification rather than just enjoy communing in the community for the sake of it and the likes being second nature to this, haha

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1 minute ago, Vae said:

 And Zeke hasn't said shit to me about this.

 

 

19 hours ago, Zeke said:

tee hee

Red lantern.

When somebody said 'that stuff should go to a fetish forum' Zeke quoted them and implied the red lantern was the appropriate place, so I just referred to that to explain why I wasn't counting sexual content posted in the Red Lantern.

Is that acceptable for you?

 

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When it comes to red-lantern, it's a case of good intentions ruined by bad people. 

In this case, it's not "bad" people. It's just rather gross individuals. 

For me, I can't bring myself to open up, even in places where I'm supposed to, because in doing so I'm subjecting myself to these undesirable people whim I'd rather not be sexual anywhere near me.
In the past, it's been this way. I'm more open, and people take that as an opportunity to be more sexual with me in return. It's fucking gross and off putting. 

I don't need people to be like "oh my, falaffel, i sure do like it when you post porn! please post more porn :33."
That's disgusting, leave me alone. 

 

My problem is that certain folk don't know how to properly uphold themselves in discussion of a sexual manner. They don't know when enough is enough, and they don't respect boundaries. I personally wouldn't mind any of the topics in the Red Lantern if people would act semi fucking normal and not like hyper-sexualized man-beasts with absolutely no sense of tact. 

Sex is a thing most people enjoy and experience. It can be a topic of enjoyable discussion. However, because of a few people of this forum, it is absolutely impossible to comfortably have casual conversation about it. It's absolutely frustrating that I can't have a nice conversation about sex because of this.

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13 minutes ago, Falaffel said:

When it comes to red-lantern, it's a case of good intentions ruined by bad people. 

In this case, it's not "bad" people. It's just rather gross individuals. 

For me, I can't bring myself to open up, even in places where I'm supposed to, because in doing so I'm subjecting myself to these undesirable people whim I'd rather not be sexual anywhere near me.
In the past, it's been this way. I'm more open, and people take that as an opportunity to be more sexual with me in return. It's fucking gross and off putting. 

I don't need people to be like "oh my, falaffel, i sure do like it when you post porn! please post more porn :33."
That's disgusting, leave me alone. 

 

My problem is that certain folk don't know how to properly uphold themselves in discussion of a sexual manner. They don't know when enough is enough, and they don't respect boundaries. I personally wouldn't mind any of the topics in the Red Lantern if people would act semi fucking normal and not like hyper-sexualized man-beasts with absolutely no sense of tact. 

Sex is a thing most people enjoy and experience. It can be a topic of enjoyable discussion. However, because of a few people of this forum, it is absolutely impossible to comfortably have casual conversation about it. It's absolutely frustrating that I can't have a nice conversation about sex because of this.

Hmm, yeah I appreciate it's not nice when other people have different sensibilities to you, but at the same time they might not know what your personal sensibilities and boundaries are, and what they consider innocuous might be perceived as intrusive from your perspective (and vice versa of course). I think some people are genuinely just trying to be nice, and may not know that you perceive them as undesirable people who you don't want to interact with.

I think a lot of people probably have a different idea of what proper etiquette in these situations is, and I'm not really sure which of them are right. I kind of felt the thread about sharing stories about how people lost their virginity was an intrusive question for example, but I guess a lot of people didn't see things the same way, and that's fine.

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1 minute ago, Saxon said:

Hmm, yeah I appreciate it's not nice when other people have different sensibilities to you, but at the same time they might not know what your personal sensibilities and boundaries are, and what they consider innocuous might be perceived as intrusive from your perspective (and vice versa of course). I think some people are genuinely just trying to be nice, and may not know that you perceive them as undesirable people who you don't want to interact with.

I think a lot of people probably have a different idea of what proper etiquette in these situations is, and I'm not really sure which of them are right.

This is why i made the distinction that they weren't "bad". 

I would very much wish people would treat sex more casually in conversation, as opposed to making it there main points of personality. It's those people who overshare and make it very uncomfortable. They don't know when to stop, because to them, that is normal. 

There's also the point that some people take me posting porn as a solicitation to do one of two things, both bad for different reasons. 
A: they think it's okay to then be sexual at me. (happened to me on FaF. I see it happening here to others.)
B: they use that as a means to get to know me. (Don't fucking do this, you weird ass motherfuckers)

6 minutes ago, Saxon said:

 I think some people are genuinely just trying to be nice, and may not know that you perceive them as undesirable people who you don't want to interact with..

This is part of the reason I make it a point to be off-putting to certain individuals. 

1 minute ago, Saxon said:

I kind of felt the thread about sharing stories about how people lost their virginity was an intrusive question for example, but I guess a lot of people didn't see things the same way, and that's fine.

It very much was. 
I played along for the sole reason I kept it vague and in hopes people would continue that trend of vagueness. 

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41 minutes ago, Saxon said:

When somebody said 'that stuff should go to a fetish forum' Zeke quoted them and implied the red lantern was the appropriate place, so I just referred to that to explain why I wasn't counting sexual content posted in the Red Lantern.

Is that acceptable for you?

And I was just saying that implication that Zeke and I were going to debate about this was silly because the nature of my involvement.

Current topic: People should err on the side of caution when it comes to being creepily sexual and uncomfortable around strangers, regardless of whether or not you know their personal comfort levels. Period. No exceptions.
Otherwise, it's deserving of every bit of criticism, mockery, and ostracization it receives.

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8 minutes ago, Falaffel said:

This is why i made the distinction that they weren't "bad". 

I would very much wish people would treat sex more casually in conversation, as opposed to making it there main points of personality. It's those people who overshare and make it very uncomfortable. They don't know when to stop, because to them, that is normal. 

There's also the point that some people take me posting porn as a solicitation to do one of two things, both bad for different reasons. 
A: they think it's okay to then be sexual at me. (happened to me on FaF. I see it happening here to others.)
B: they use that as a means to get to know me. (Don't fucking do this, you weird ass motherfuckers)

This is part of the reason I make it a point to be off-putting to certain individuals. 

It very much was. 
I played along for the sole reason I kept it vague and in hopes people would continue that trend of vagueness. 

I guess you can always talk to people about sex privately and then it will always be on your terms. You really can't guarantee how people will respond in open conversation; it might not be something worth trying to be repellent to other people over.

Personally I don't like it when people assume that sexual fetishes define my character; If I could press a button and make them all go away I would.

Regards other discussion, I don't think mocking and ostracising people is a good solution here either to be honest. If somebody has delicate sensitivities I think they can just explain that if somebody initiates an unwelcome conversation with them.

 

 

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