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That article is written by Ian Miles Cheong and shouldn't really be given any credence on that alone.

Also its blown out of proportion

Also Discord allowing cub is a good thing. Though I guess its fair to say that its hypocritical that they outright callout loli/shota but allow cub, though with their explanation I can kinda see where they're coming from. Seems like they're taking the Inkbunny approach of looking at things (not human = less bad).

As for just illegal activity going on, its just part of any social media/group messaging service. Its difficult to catch, difficult to confirm, and reading that article I don't really see Discord doing anything wrong? Its looking like some of the stuff reported wound up getting deleted before Discord could get to it and it makes sense that they wouldn't ban something without the ability to verify it on their own servers themselves.

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10 hours ago, Battlechili said:

Also Discord allowing cub is a good thing

Except that it isn't.
Pedophile shit is pedophile shit.

It's not surprising Discord is now being investigated by the FBI for hosting servers where predators are connecting with minors.
So uh, good for them and their indiscretion I guess.

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24 minutes ago, Vae said:

It's not surprising Discord is now being investigated by the FBI for hosting servers where predators are connecting with minors.

Specific Discord servers are being investigated by the FBI, not Discord itself

The idea that it was Discord itself was the result of a misleading title on a Forbes article iirc. It was later corrected.

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16 minutes ago, Battlechili said:

Specific Discord servers are being investigated by the FBI, not Discord itself

The idea that it was Discord itself was the result of a misleading title on a Forbes article iirc. It was later corrected.

The fact that Discord servers have to be investigated is indicative of the problem that happens when you allow pedophiles to feel welcome on your platform to begin with, which they should not be.
Rules will not followed by everyone, for obvious reasons, but throwing out the goddamn red carpet for them and letting them indulge their bullshit is asking for stuff like this on the platform. It's why most places ban this kind of shit outright, aside from being grossed out by the content. They don't want to attract child-molesters to their platforms.

There's also the information in the Twitter thread I linked earlier where the allthefoxes person, one of Discord's trust and safety staff, is supposedly letting offending child predators back onto the platform. (I say supposedly, because this is all stuff that was said in Twitter screencaps.)

So I mean...

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Dammit

This was the opposite direction I wanted them to take this. Though I can't fault anyone for wanting to protect children and all just...I don't want people's freedoms to be limited in order to do so. Its not like such art is intended to be viewed by children. Its not like such art isn't age-gated. Discord already requires people to be 18+ to view porn.

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10 minutes ago, Battlechili said:

Dammit

This was the opposite direction I wanted them to take this. Though I can't fault anyone for wanting to protect children and all just...I don't want people's freedoms to be limited in order to do so. Its not like such art is intended to be viewed by children. Its not like such art isn't age-gated. Discord already requires people to be 18+ to view porn.

Letting children access it isn't the problem.

It's encouraging people to sexualize children.
People should not be doing that.

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5 hours ago, Vae said:

Letting children access it isn't the problem.

It's encouraging people to sexualize children.
People should not be doing that.

As someone who works in mental health, dear gods yes, this type of thing leads to real-world consequences, children getting hurt, adults normalizing sexual feelings towards minors and immense intergenerational suffering...

 

I'm all for freedoms, but the sexualization of minors is never appropriate or acceptable.

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On 2/14/2019 at 2:16 AM, Rhíulchabán said:

As someone who works in mental health, dear gods yes, this type of thing leads to real-world consequences, children getting hurt, adults normalizing sexual feelings towards minors and immense intergenerational suffering...

I'd like to see some sources for that.

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2 hours ago, Socketosis said:

I'd like to see some sources for that.

Wouldn't the source be firsthand experience in this instance?

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So the pedophiles are on Discord and the animalrapists are on telegram

 

is there anywhere I can go where I can share bad memes without being tangled up in this

 

can I post them here???

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13 hours ago, Vae said:

Wouldn't the source be firsthand experience in this instance?

Anecdotal evidence is usually worthless.

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7 hours ago, Socketosis said:

Anecdotal evidence is usually worthless.

I thought we were talking on a largely defunct, isolated-ass furry forum, and not in a college setting.

Silly me.

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