Zeke Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 On February 14, 2016 at 0:00 PM, Saxon said: All through my education I asked art teachers when I would be taught the fundamentals, and they always claimed that 'those are difficult and you will be taught them at the next level up'. I don't think they ever do teach them. Usually, you learn the fundamentals at the start of your first art-based class. That tells me those particular teachers didn't know how to. On February 16, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Naesaki said: I tried spreading the stories I write on FA but no one in the community seemed to care, even got a PM every now and then of random furries telling me to stop posting my writings because it didn't fit a sex, fetish or nsfw criteria -__- I eventually got some interested readers but then they turned into, Deathly afraid of giving me any form of constructive criticism, even though I always asked for it and said it was very welcome. So they'd tell me the chapter was good but not why it was good and when I asked they either didn't respond or gave a vague non-answer. So I kind of gave up trying to push my writings forward on FA and I wasn't about to drop all my ideals just to appeal to common denominator who wanted sex or fetish writing. At that point, you might look into different site venues to post your writings instead of FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcstinks Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I think we'd be a lot better off as a furmmunity if we had more tolerance for unattractive characters. Or even averagely-attractive characters! As the forum graymuzzle, I remember a time when art resembled television cartoon characters more than the aforementioned idealized "furry style." That being, 20-year-old swimsuit models with pleasing facial features, lovely proportions, and no aesthetic flaws to speak of. I'm sure this stems from the desire to be seen as attractive to others, as most manimals identify personally with their character as an extension of themselves. If we could get away from this just a little, artists would gain valuable breadth of experience from creating a wide variety of body and facial shapes. It would force us to learn proper anatomy rather than Ashley out a neverending march of identical characters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 3 hours ago, jcstinks said: I think we'd be a lot better off as a furmmunity if we had more tolerance for unattractive characters. Or even averagely-attractive characters! As the forum graymuzzle, I remember a time when art resembled television cartoon characters more than the aforementioned idealized "furry style." That being, 20-year-old swimsuit models with pleasing facial features, lovely proportions, and no aesthetic flaws to speak of. I'm sure this stems from the desire to be seen as attractive to others, as most manimals identify personally with their character as an extension of themselves. If we could get away from this just a little, artists would gain valuable breadth of experience from creating a wide variety of body and facial shapes. It would force us to learn proper anatomy rather than Ashley out a neverending march of identical characters Encouraging people to do sketch exercises and studies helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diretractor Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 That's the thing with caricaturization and appeal when it comes to character design. Appeal does not necessarily mean sexually attractive. I really do believe that the reason why the furry fandom has the style that it does is because shape appeal is never learned. I certainly didn't learn it in college. So without that knowledge the only way to make a character look appealing is to make it sexually appealing, because that's the only visual psychology those artists understand. In addition, with the lack of formal figure training in a studio with a model, and little resources to purchase books or reference libraries, I'd bet 10 bucks the primary source these artists get anatomical reference is from pornographic images, and as they say, what you put in is what you put out. I have noticed that when an artist starts to employ shape appeal in their designs their anthropomorphic characters STOP looking furry, and that starts to open doors to opportunities and professional relationships that are outside of the furry community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naesaki Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Zeke said: At that point, you might look into different site venues to post your writings instead of FA. I did used to be really active on fictionpress once upon a time but I honestly don't know why I stopped posting there, I think part of me just assumed no one would be interested in stories with anthropomorphic characters or one's with humans and anthro's together. etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Naesaki said: I did used to be really active on fictionpress once upon a time but I honestly don't know why I stopped posting there, I think part of me just assumed no one would be interested in stories with anthropomorphic characters or one's with humans and anthro's together. etc etc What I've found that can sometimes attack a crowd are illustrations paired with a story to give the unimaginative audience something to work with. Fuck furries and keep writing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 4 hours ago, jcstinks said: I think we'd be a lot better off as a furmmunity if we had more tolerance for unattractive characters. Or even averagely-attractive characters! As the forum graymuzzle, I remember a time when art resembled television cartoon characters more than the aforementioned idealized "furry style." That being, 20-year-old swimsuit models with pleasing facial features, lovely proportions, and no aesthetic flaws to speak of. I'm sure this stems from the desire to be seen as attractive to others, as most manimals identify personally with their character as an extension of themselves. If we could get away from this just a little, artists would gain valuable breadth of experience from creating a wide variety of body and facial shapes. It would force us to learn proper anatomy rather than Ashley out a neverending march of identical characters The problem with making "ugly" characters is that people inevitably go into tumblr territory and make things that are fucking hideous. Not like imperfect as in "oh they're slightly chubby," I mean shit like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troj Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I prefer to think my current 'sona as distinguished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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