Foxxy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Well I have another com and I want to install win 7 in it. problem: the dvd burner wont open and I try to open it with a pin in the small hole, but not working. Other problem: I download two software, ImgBurn to make the ISO and Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool to put it on a USB key, but when I want to use that ISO the windows software tell me that its not a valid ISO file. I went to this site http://store.microsoft.com/Help/ISO-Tool I went to this site for help, but got an runtime error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fennecbyte Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'd recommend getting Rufus to format your USB with the bootable ISO. It worked pretty well when I needed it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 well for some reason its not working. I use Rufus but the key will not boot. I use any usb port or I must use a specific one like those in front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginpanther Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 @Foxxy I've been to this rodeo before. Are you sure this machine supports boot from USB? It's possible that the motherboard, or the BIOS, or both lack the capability to allow this. If that is the case, it won't matter what USB port is used, you're stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 So what I'm suppose to do? the DVD reader wont read any dick. I try my DVD of win 7 but it wont read. The DVD reader stuff is broken. (this com) use a SATA DVD reader, the other com use a IDE. Is there a way to change the bios to make it boot from a usb key? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Well the bios call it "removable" normally the first boot is the DVD, not I tell it to use the "removable" and it seem the USB key was detected I have seen the light on it telling me that it was read. But when I reboot "CTRL+ALT+DELETE+ I get no result. It wont boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 wont accept the ISO I made and will not make one from the dvd of windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onnes Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Whats the motherboard or system model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Step One: 'Aquire' a full functioning ISO. Step Two: Format a USB drive and put it on Step Three: Load from USB Step Four: Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyAshes Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 On a side note, while it may not be the case here, but most BIOSs can't boot off any of their USB3 ports since they rely on an external controller so you'd have to use a USB2 port. Rather recent chipsets do not have this limitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 ImgBurn is the problem, I use another software that use the ISO to install it on the key, but that ISO is not valid. So I need another program that make ISO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 56 minutes ago, Onnes said: Whats the motherboard or system model? Its a ADM, well I don't have much info on it since its from someone who format the HD before giving it up. My cd key is locked to this com only because its a refurbish com and the win 7 in it is for that only. I will have to contact the place I buy it to know what I can do? I hate not having money 30 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said: On a side note, while it may not be the case here, but most BIOSs can't boot off any of their USB3 ports since they rely on an external controller so you'd have to use a USB2 port. Rather recent chipsets do not have this limitation. It not a recent com, and I don,t know if the port in the back are USB2 or 3. There are two on the front and I can't tell if its 2 or 3 I will check to see what's in it, beside a 160 gig SATA HD, it run on 32 bits, not sure of the ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyAshes Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 As a general rule, USB3 ports are blue, while USB2 ports are black and in some cases, red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onnes Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Foxxy said: ImgBurn is the problem, I use another software that use the ISO to install it on the key, but that ISO is not valid. So I need another program that make ISO. Are you making the ISO yourself from a CD? If so, you'd eliminate at least one branch of possible errors by downloading a known working ISO and then using that instead; see 6tails' reply. (I can't remember whether you can get the Windows 7 ISOs directly from Microsoft of if those need to be acquired elsewhere.) Edited December 13, 2015 by Onnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 I can't take it from MS because my cd key is locked to this com only Its from and for a refurbish com from a show that do that. I would need like to buy a cd key/DVD win 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 On this com, the 4 on the back and the 4 on the front look black. On my sister com (the one I want to install win) there are 2 white on front and I think 4 black on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Check your messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 6tails said: USB Standard specifies that USB3 ports be colored 300C Pantone blue. USB 1 and 2 ports are white and black. Teal is 3.1. Yellow, orange, red are power only ports. Your BIOS might have a separate menu for managing removable media that is attached. You might find a boot order option there if it exists. Unless I'm missing something, they cannot so much as write the ISO to a stick. Doesn't matter if the other computer is going to even think about supporting USB as a boot method if there's nothing on the drive... Bad image. Edited December 13, 2015 by Wrecker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 If windows is so much trouble, i will go with something like Ubuntu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 OK, so how do I get any OS into that computer if the DVD reader is not working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyAshes Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) I don't understand the difficulty in getting the ISO. Didn't even Microsoft host ISO downloads? I've had no issue googling up direct downloads of Windows 7 ISOs in the past. It's not like it's piracy if one has the legit key. Edit: I found a non-MS download location on the first page of Google results. However I'm not going to post it, while this isn't piracy, not sure how the mods would like to interpret it. Edited December 13, 2015 by AshleyAshes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 This is the message I get when I wanted to download a ISO for win 7 from Microsoft. it mean that the product key is made for a pre made computer and that if I want to like re use that key I must contact the shop who made the computer. Its a windows version made for refurbish computer, so I can't install it on another computer. beside the computer might be too old to be able to boot from a USB driver. I will call to get a use IDE DVD reader. Don't know how much it is tough, so I will have to wait until I have money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Well with the new DVD rom I use the cd that was given to me and install windows. I would only required a cd key for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) 14 hours ago, AshleyAshes said: I don't understand the difficulty in getting the ISO. Didn't even Microsoft host ISO downloads? I've had no issue googling up direct downloads of Windows 7 ISOs in the past. It's not like it's piracy if one has the legit key. Edit: I found a non-MS download location on the first page of Google results. However I'm not going to post it, while this isn't piracy, not sure how the mods would like to interpret it. Windows images in bootable format used to be available through their distributor Digital River as a free download. That's not the deal anymore, and they now require a valid product key. The bottom line is, if the program that you're using to write the image to a USB stick is saying the image is invalid, then there's something up with it. If you have a legitimate release of W7 with a valid product key, then use it. If you can't find it, then use https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/ Don't forget to deselect the junk Yahoo and AD-Aware bullshit when you're installing it... It works, though. Edited December 14, 2015 by Wrecker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 On 12/13/2015 at 8:31 PM, Onnes said: Whats the motherboard or system model? The com is a AMD Sempron 2Ghz, 2 gyg of ram, HD 160 Gyg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) There were Semprons that could only handle 32 bit instructions, and others that could handle 64 bit instructions... I wonder if that might be the issue. Try out a 32 bit release of Windows 7 if you haven't already. I'm not entirely sure if it it will help you to write an image to disk, but I do know that a 32 bit processor will not know what the fuck is going on if it tries to handle anything beyond its instruction set. Edited December 17, 2015 by Wrecker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Ugh, you computer noobs are infuriating at times. First, what you need to do is make your thumbstick bootable (google it). Then, all you need to do is copy the contents of the Windows DVD to it. Then, load your thumbstick at boot and install Windows like you would if you were using a DVD. You're welcome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 29 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Ugh, you computer noobs are infuriating at times. First, what you need to do is make your thumbstick bootable (google it). Then, all you need to do is copy the contents of the Windows DVD to it. Then, load your thumbstick at boot and install Windows like you would if you were using a DVD. You're welcome... You haven't paid a pile of attention to the topic have you, fucking genious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wrecker said: You haven't paid a pile of attention to the topic have you, fucking genious? Admittedly I skipped over everything else but the gist of it was 'I can't install Windows this way' so I offered an alternative. My way works, too, done it before. Edited December 17, 2015 by Mr. Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Follow this guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 hour ago, 6tails said: That shouldn't stop an ISO from being written to a USB drive, though. I thought not, but I'm getting lost with what's going on in the OP here. I gotta post here sober sometime. Find a new image, OP. And Mr. Fox, like fuck writing to FAT32 is going to save the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Then make the drive NTFS, pleb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: yomama Pop quiz, when was the last time that FAT32 was considered as a viable format? Edited December 17, 2015 by Wrecker lol fuck, still can't spell... there we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 7 minutes ago, Wrecker said: Pop quiz, when was the last time that FAT32 was considered as a viable format? It still is a viable format for smaller partitions. Have to try harder than that, sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just now, Mr. Fox said: It still is a viable format for smaller partitions. Have to try harder than that, sport. Where are you trying to go with this? Windows 7 won't install on a FAT32 volume... Once again, I'm getting lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyAshes Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Honestly, I sent the guy a link to the proper ISO files in a PM, he never responded and hasn't seemed to move forward with his problem. At this point, I think the critical issue is behind the keyboard rather than inside the computer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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