TrishaCat Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I realize this seems awfully niche, so let me explain myself. For a little over a year (maybe longer), I've been waiting for a particular Japan-only manga by the name of "Tsunousagi: The Jackalope" to get translated. After all this time of waiting, I decided to go onto an anime forum and ask why it hadn't been translated. Shortly after asking, someone who is part of a team of translators actually came to me and asked me if it was online, saying that if I could provide high quality raw scans of this manga he might be able to get it translated. Excited at this chance, I decided to look around online for it, only to find that the manga is so obscure that its not been uploaded anywhere onto the internet. Due to this, I decided to take it upon myself to attempt to do this after finding out that ebooks for the manga are sold on various online Japanese book stores. Its extremely important to me that Tsunousagi gets translated, as it is by Sho Shibamoto, the author of my favorite manga and webcomic, "Pandemonium: Wizard Village". I went ahead and bought the manga on one of these bookstores, a store called "Animate Book Store". However after buying it, I realized that it does not download as a PDF or anything useful like that. Rather, its just made to where I can read it anytime I want online, and there are protections in place to ensure I can just open images in a new tab. Confused, I decided to ask around on various websites, including 4chan, as it has a very dedicated community towards this sort of thing. But the thing is, its anime board, /a/, loathes people asking for help, citing that as "spoonfeeding", so I decided to try the incredibly slow board /wsr/, which stands for Work-safe requests to ask for help. There I told my problem, and I was given directions via a temporary 10-minute pastebin. While I managed to acquire these directions, going back to them proved to be difficult since the pastebin vanished. When I went through various archival websites for 4chan's anime board to search for more help, I came across the same problem: Any useful links were placed in temporary pastebins that, by the time I arrived to them, were already defunct and no longer usable. (for those who don't know, pastebin is a website where you can paste text and save that for future use. Normally, its by default permanent, but it is possible to make them only last a certain period of time). Anyways, in the end I managed to get software that was supposed to be able to rip pages from online websites automatically, but unfortunately, it didn't work for me for some reason. So, I did some digging around and after spending several hours on various websites, I acquired different ripping tools, all having the similar problems and not working for me. It turned out many of those ripping tools were site specific however, and do not work on Animate. After waking up this morning, I decided to visit /a/ and it actually had a scanlation thread recently made for it, so I decided to visit the thread and ask for help. In the end, no one was able to provide any useful information other than what programs I need that should work, however no one's willing to actually provide links to them. By the looks of it, many there often say that people should go through the archives for the website in order to find information rather than just giving it since they think outright giving information is, once again, "spoonfeeding", and thus according to them "invites newfags" or "makes threads shitty". People are essentially expected to find them themselves, and while digging around, I just found more useless pastebins. And its gotten so bad that when people do ask for links in the scanlation threads, they just ask for 10 minute pastebins. I don't understand this; why would you knowingly ask for information to be available only temporarily? Would that not invite only more people asking for help, which is exactly what they want to avoid? And wouldn't making information more readily available only make it easier for more manga to get translated, which is great for everyone since not every work gets published in the West? I really hate 4chan's, and especially /a/'s, culture of making everyone do things themselves. I understand that sometimes people just don't know how to look for things themselves and that people need to be able to do that, but at a certain point this kind of culture is counterproductive and comes off as extremely rude. Anywho, in the end I never managed to get the programs I need (and the only link I ever did find led to what appears to be malware and nothing useful), and so I have yet to find out if I can do this, which means that, for the meantime, I'm still unable to get one of my more anticipated works translated, and its partially the fault of the people who most obsess over these things. Anyways, rant over. TL;DR: Cultures of avoidance of spoonfeeding suck and Japanese ebook sellers like to make things incredibly difficult for people to actually make use of the books they buy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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