axelthefox Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I have noticed that he seems to always say furry is just a innocent hobby and such,but people don't seem to listen to what he says at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) He's the chairman of Anthrocon and as such it is wholly in his best interest to downplay the sexual aspect as much as humanly possible. He's not dumb. He has managed to nurture a really good relationship with Pittsburgh last time I checked and screaming "we're a community of people who wanna fuck dogs" doesn't really make people more inclined to accommodate you and your dogfucking convention. Edited March 18, 2016 by PastryOfApathy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axelthefox Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 Furry has nothing to do with abuse of animals. I read about a story about two furs who turned in a animal abuser. If i ever encountered a animal abuser,i would turn them in. Many furs shun those who abuse animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieono Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, PastryOfApathy said: He's the chairman of Anthrocon and as such it is wholly in his best interest to downplay the sexual aspect as much as humanly possible. He's not dumb. He has managed to nurture a really good relationship with Pittsburgh last time I checked and screaming "we're a community of people who wanna fuck dogs" doesn't really make people more inclined to accommodate you and your dogfucking convention. Yes, he seems intelligent and well-spoken. I am glad someone like him is "representing" the furry community, and mentoring younger members of the fandom (at least from what I've seen from this video...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaende Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 He's articulate, affable, and has done a lot of good for the fandom. Is he perfect? Nope. Nobody's perfect, and I get the impression that he'd be the first to admit it. Folks shouldn't put him on a pedestal, but be glad that he cares. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 ......my thoughts on him? Well, he's funny, very intelligent, and quite entertaining. But I get the distinct impression that I wouldn't much care for him irl. I prefer listening to 2 Gryphon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willow Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, axelthefox said: Furry has nothing to do with abuse of animals. I read about a story about two furs who turned in a animal abuser. If i ever encountered a animal abuser,i would turn them in. Many furs shun those who abuse animals. well yeah we know that but it's still something that a lot of people think about the fandom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassah Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, axelthefox said: I have noticed that he seems to always say furry is just a innocent hobby and such... That's not what he said to me when he was drunk, sitting on my lap, in the back of a car at two in the morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcstinks Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 31 minutes ago, Rassah said: That's not what he said to me when he was drunk, sitting on my lap, in the back of a car at two in the morning... This is information you probably should not be sharing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axelthefox Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 hour ago, willow said: well yeah we know that but it's still something that a lot of people think about the fandom yeah,seems many think that people in the fandom have sex in our fursuits,when it is not true at all. You can pass out in fursuit,they can get really hot and such. I don't get why people think we fuck in our suits. I have been saying till i'm blue in the face that that is a myth and many furs don't do that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I asked him about murrsuits in a livestream once and how I thought they were creepy and he told me to shut the fuck up. My analysis: The guy is a double standard edgelord. I can see why him and 2 get on so well. Despite all of that, he does do a lot of good for the culture, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clove Darkwave Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Endless/Nameless said: I prefer listening to 2 Gryphon. Oh my goodness why. He's still alive? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, Clove Darkwave said: Oh my goodness why. He's still alive? He's awful and I love it. Yup. He's actually doing YouTube let's-plays now it looks like 36 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: I asked him about murrsuits in a livestream once and how I thought they were creepy and he told me to shut the fuck up. My analysis: The guy is a double standard edgelord. What an odd duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 10 hours ago, axelthefox said: yeah,seems many think that people in the fandom have sex in our fursuits,when it is not true at all. You can pass out in fursuit,they can get really hot and such. I don't get why people think we fuck in our suits. I have been saying till i'm blue in the face that that is a myth and many furs don't do that at all. Ummm...bout' that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 11 hours ago, axelthefox said: yeah,seems many think that people in the fandom have sex in our fursuits,when it is not true at all. You can pass out in fursuit,they can get really hot and such. I don't get why people think we fuck in our suits. I have been saying till i'm blue in the face that that is a myth and many furs don't do that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaende Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: I asked him about murrsuits in a livestream once and how I thought they were creepy and he told me to shut the fuck up. My analysis: The guy is a double standard edgelord. I can see why him and 2 get on so well. Despite all of that, he does do a lot of good for the culture, I think. To be fair, there's a big difference between saying the fandom isn't about fursuit sex and thinking murrsuits are categorically creepy. It's more of a fringe thing. Not what most of us are here for, rather than particularly bad in and of itself. My interest in furry tends to be G-PG, for instance, but I'd do it. I'd have sex in just about any costume, uniform, or whatever else fits with the bedroom roleplay theme. Kind of like I wouldn't object if my girlfriend wanted to get busy dressed as Starfleet officers. However fun that might be, my interest in Star Trek isn't sexual. The same with furry. IMO, a line is crossed when knocking other peoples' fantasy lives. Does that make this a double standard for me? I don't think so. Presuming your Livestream session happened as you say, Kage's reaction doesn't strike me as hypocritical. Edited March 19, 2016 by Xaende Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axelthefox Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Seems many also think that people in the fandom think that we think we are animals when those are therians. Furs i hang around with know they are human. Edited March 19, 2016 by axelthefox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 He's a horrible person when he is drinking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 23 hours ago, axelthefox said: Furry has nothing to do with abuse of animals. I read about a story about two furs who turned in a animal abuser. If i ever encountered a animal abuser,i would turn them in. Many furs shun those who abuse animals. As someone who has experience fighting animal abusers in the furry community, I think I can speak with authority on the subject when I say that the amount of furries who detest any and all forms of sexual contact with animals is the minority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskai Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Gamedog said: As someone who has experience fighting animal abusers in the furry community, I think I can speak with authority on the subject when I say that the amount of furries who detest any and all forms of sexual contact with animals is the minority. Especially since furry is so "accepting" of folks, the zoophiles are about in the fandom as we make it feel "its an ok thing". There was a Group on FA that was about JUST the art of the stuff, the owner went away so they left it in the hands of another...which happens to be a person who actually practice it and started advocating it in the group in journals until the group was nuked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 You'd be surprised how many animal fuckers there are who you wouldn't expect to be into that i have a feeling neithrr of you have directly dealt with this first hand, so you can't comprehend the scope of it look over on faf and see the amount of people who make exceptions for sexual contact with animals who will argue day and night about how something isn't "as harmful" as another and therefore is okay you can say "don't fuck a dog in the ass" and people will nod but if you say "don't let a dog fuck you", people will argue with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 20 hours ago, axelthefox said: yeah,seems many think that people in the fandom have sex in our fursuits,when it is not true at all. You can pass out in fursuit,they can get really hot and such. I don't get why people think we fuck in our suits. I have been saying till i'm blue in the face that that is a myth and many furs don't do that at all. I may not like murrsuits, but that's false. People DO have fursuit sex. Not all furries, but there are some that do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I think there are more zoophile and zoophile apologists in the fandom than there are people who have sex in fur suits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Gamedog said: I think there are more zoophile and zoophile apologists in the fandom than there are people who have sex in fur suits It seems like the ones who can afford multiple suits tend to be the ones to buy fucksuits or fuck-bodysuits for their fursuit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Gamedog said: I think there are more zoophile and zoophile apologists in the fandom than there are people who have sex in fur suits Well it's certainly a lot cheaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axelthefox Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Deskai said: He's a horrible person when he is drinking... I wonder what causes him to drink. I wonder if it is him going on tv and trying to convince normies that furry has nothing to do with being a fetish and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, axelthefox said: I wonder what causes him to drink. I wonder if it is him going on tv and trying to convince normies that furry has nothing to do with being a fetish and such. But it is a fetish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Head Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 This is just ridiculous. The question shouldn't even BE "are furries fucking in their suits", the real question should be "what's wrong with if consenting adults want to fuck in a fur suit?" Answers like "it's gross" and "it personally disturbs me" are answers that are to be immediately rejected. Those are the same arguments that are often levied against homosexuals. They're personal and emotional appeals at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassah Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On 3/18/2016 at 7:12 PM, jcstinks said: This is information you probably should not be sharing. It's not as racy as you think. We were at a friend's mini con, about 6 of us wanted to go out to Dunkin Doughnuts at 2 in the morning, the only way for Kage to fit in the car with us was to sit on my lap, and he was in his natural state: slightly drunk. Get your mind out of the gutter you sick furs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Rabbit Head said: the real question should be "what's wrong with if consenting adults want to fuck in a fur suit?" I think people's objections stem from their incorrect(?) inference of bestaility from such an idea. Still a good point tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Head Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Endless/Nameless said: I think people's objections stem from their incorrect(?) inference of bestaility from such an idea. Yeah, Furries/anthros aren't animals.I don't think so, anyway. There's way too many human traits in the characters. Furries want to fuck animals, sure, that's why they bother giving them basic human anatomy and conventionally attractive human characteristics like tits or abs and stuff. Because they want to fuck animals. sure. mmmkay. Ferals? I'm not as sure on tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuttButt Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 2 hours ago, PastryOfApathy said: But it is a fetish. You're absolutely right, but honestly I understand the knee-jerk reaction of "n-no it isn't!" when outsiders accuse the furry fandom of being fetishists. Obviously polls have shown fairly consistently that the majority of people in the fandom get some kind of sexual gratification from the fandom, but I think it's fair to say that the fandom proper (e.g. conventions, meets, crafting suits, etc.) does not revolve around sex, but rather an appreciation for the anthro aesthetic. Unfortunately, it's inevitable that if you address the furry fandom and any kind of sexuality in the same breath you are shooting yourself, and the entire fandom in the foot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Rabbit Head said: Yeah, Furries/anthros aren't animals.I don't think so, anyway. There's way too many human traits in the characters. You're totally right. "Furries" at the most basic level are just humans with non-human characteristics. BUT, to the average guy on the street, they see people doin' it in what appears to be an animal costume, and that's just what they think of. So everybody thinks it's gross now. 3 minutes ago, Rabbit Head said: Ferals? I'm not as sure on tbh. I quite enjoy feral art, but not in a fucky way. I think it deserves more credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, MuttButt said: You're absolutely right, but honestly I understand the knee-jerk reaction of "n-no it isn't!" when outsiders accuse the furry fandom of being fetishists. Obviously polls have shown fairly consistently that the majority of people in the fandom get some kind of sexual gratification from the fandom, but I think it's fair to say that the fandom proper (e.g. conventions, meets, crafting suits, etc.) does not revolve around sex, but rather an appreciation for the anthro aesthetic. Unfortunately, it's inevitable that if you address the furry fandom and any kind of sexuality in the same breath you are shooting yourself, and the entire fandom in the foot. "BUH GUIZE ITS ALL LIEZ FROM DAH TROLLZ AND DAT EPISOODE OF CSI FROM LEIK 10 YEARZ AGO!!!!1 anyone doin commishens? i want my caracter in a diappy" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 minute ago, PastryOfApathy said: DAT EPISOODE OF CSI FROM LEIK 10 YEARZ AGO!!!!1 I was more offended by the braindead writing of that show than the portrayal of furries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, Endless/Nameless said: I was more offended by the braindead writing of that show than the portrayal of furries. Yeah I remember watching that episode like years ago and outside of a couple memorable moments (that whole shit about the oil was hilarious), it legit sucked. Like as an episode of CSI, not as a representation of furfaggotry or whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Head Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, PastryOfApathy said: "BUH GUIZE ITS ALL LIEZ FROM DAH TROLLZ AND DAT EPISOODE OF CSI FROM LEIK 10 YEARZ AGO!!!!1 anyone doin commishens? i want my caracter in a diappy" This would be more real if it were a request and not a commission. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 3 hours ago, PastryOfApathy said: Well it's certainly a lot cheaper. ha ha ha *puts gun in your hands and holds barrel to my forehead* *whispers* pul it pasty pull it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gamedog said: ha ha ha *puts gun in your hands and holds barrel to my forehead* *whispers* pul it pasty pull it for me thisismyfetish.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On March 18, 2016 at 4:40 PM, axelthefox said: Furry has nothing to do with abuse of animals. I read about a story about two furs who turned in a animal abuser. If i ever encountered a animal abuser,i would turn them in. Many furs shun those who abuse animals. There sure are a lot of people drawing animal penis. If you're drawing that or buying that kind of thing there must be a reason for it. You certainly don't buy it because you hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, axelthefox said: I like furry girls My mind has been blown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, axelthefox said: I like furry girls what a coinkydink so doth i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Head Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I also am fond of the animal girls. there must some kind of conspiracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Rabbit Head said: I also am fond of the animal girls. there must some kind of conspiracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 4 hours ago, axelthefox said: I wonder what causes him to drink. I wonder if it is him going on tv and trying to convince normies that furry has nothing to do with being a fetish and such. Stress. And he likes wine. He's been to Closing ceremonies soused before and two of the Ops people had to escort him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Zeke said: Stress. And he likes wine. He's been to Closing ceremonies soused before and two of the Ops people had to escort him to closing ceremonies. To be fair if furfaggotry literally was your life you'd want to be pretty shitfaced too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, PastryOfApathy said: To be fair if furfaggotry literally was your life you'd want to be pretty shitfaced too. I know I would. Last time I volunteered at AC, my back went out and I was taking pain killers and a vodka cocktail because fucking furries rode me so hard that I broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 4 hours ago, axelthefox said: I wonder what causes him to drink. It's probably the only way to numb the pain of the giant stick up his butt :v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Zeke said: ...fucking furries rode me so hard that I broke. Phrasing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zeke said: I know I would. Last time I volunteered at AC, my back went out and I was taking pain killers and a vodka cocktail because fucking furries rode me so hard that I broke. You forgot self loathing. :v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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