VGmaster9 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lemon said: Lets steer it back to the topic going forward, guys. On this topic, though.. that'd be brutal to see in front of your eyes. Someone you looked up to, just gone like that? Like other users mentioned on the thread, its reminiscent of lennon or dimebag darrel (except that was on stage and scared the hundreds there) And Selena (not Selena Gomez) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, VGmaster9 said: And Selena (not Selena Gomez) Yeah, Selena. She died the year I was born. My mom was a huge fan growing up and it apparently hit her really hard when Selena died; inspiration to my mother (a hispanic woman) just.. gone like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Christina grimmis death is john lennons death all over again. They both got shot by a crazy person . Also its really strange that so many celebrities die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 15 hours ago, Ricky said: The only dispute was when people told me I should care more, which I still dispute :V It's even more tragic that some guy in Africa was killed and nobody even knew about it, since it never made the papers. Of course, I don't have any details but you can be sure it happened somewhere. Nobody said that wasnt tragic just nobody knew about it Seriously, it doesnt always affect you but that doesnt mean it jasnt affected SOMEBODY and it never changes the fact that it sucks when it does happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, WolfNightV4X1 said: Nobody said that wasnt tragic just nobody knew about it do you understand the difference between tragic and more tragic way to miss the point entirely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Another shooting in Orlando now. 50 or so dead at Pulse Lgbt night club. It's being considered the deadliest mass shooting in our history. Very sad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Butters said: Another shooting in Orlando now. 50 or so dead at Pulse Lgbt night club. It's being considered the deadliest mass shooting in our history. Very sad. Oh damn In Orlando? Dafuq And at a nightclub, who the frick perpetrated that? I have to look that one up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 1 minute ago, WolfNightV4X1 said: And at a nightclub, who the frick perpetrated that? I have to look that one up One seriously disturbed individual. They are saying it was a Muslim terroist act but they are both stupid and wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Yep, I had to confirm what I already knew was indeed the case. Quote Mateen's father told NBC News, "This has nothing to do with religion." He says his son became angry after seeing 2 men kissing a few months ago in Miami, and he speculates that could have triggered his decision to kill. Okay, so he saw something that was really hot, repressed by his extremely conservative Muslim upbringing and couldn't deal with the cognitive dissonance. It's indeed a tragedy but on a positive note things like this only garner sympathy and are beneficial in the long run. Once people get over this repressed homophobic latent BS and simply suck on a penis instead, things like this will stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wax Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ricky said: garner sympathy and are beneficial in the long run. That's only if a positive difference is made in light of such a tragedy. But what can America do? I think people know banning guns cold-turkey isn't the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
root Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I've always taken issue with the term "homophobia" since it's not just an irrational fear of homosexuals. Hating something doesn't automatically mean you fear it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Wax said: That's only if a positive difference is made in light of such a tragedy. But what can America do? I think people know banning guns cold-turkey isn't the answer. No, but the liberal demagogues will probably jump on it like a snitch in a prison riot. Sympathy *is* a positive thing, this won't really cause anyone to get angry at gays. 4 minutes ago, root said: I've always taken issue with the term "homophobia" since it's not just an irrational fear of homosexuals. Hating something doesn't automatically mean you fear it! Yeah, in this case it was guilt from repressed feelings that drove him to rage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLynx Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 37 minutes ago, Butters said: Another shooting in Orlando now. 50 or so dead at Pulse Lgbt night club. It's being considered the deadliest mass shooting in our history. Very sad. What's really sad is that tragic events such as this are becoming an everyday occurrence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, LucidLynx said: What's really sad is that tragic events such as this are becoming an everyday occurrence. That isn't a very probable assertion, based on two (seemingly) unrelated events that happened in a big city like Orlando. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlastairSnowpaw Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 16 hours ago, Ricky said: It's even more tragic that some guy in Africa was killed and nobody even knew about it, since it never made the papers. Of course, I don't have any details but you can be sure it happened somewhere. Being honest some people are worth more than others, at least in terms of practicality but it was never mentioned if we were talking about practical worth. The singer who got shot is honestly worth more than any of the random people you mentioned, probably worth more than all of those random people combined. It's weird and funny to see your edgy "I don't care, lets make a joke about death" attitude combined with a "everyone is equal and all life is equally precious" speech. It's slightly contradictory. Also that's really brutal that singer got shot on stage. How did that gunman get past security? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGmaster9 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 No doubt in my mind that people are going to say that video games are the reason that the gunman killed her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraphayx Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 42 minutes ago, AlastairSnowpaw said: Being honest some people are worth more than others, at least in terms of practicality but it was never mentioned if we were talking about practical worth. The singer who got shot is honestly worth more than any of the random people you mentioned, probably worth more than all of those random people combined. It's weird and funny to see your edgy "I don't care, lets make a joke about death" attitude combined with a "everyone is equal and all life is equally precious" speech. It's slightly contradictory. Also that's really brutal that singer got shot on stage. How did that gunman get past security? Valuable to whom? You can say "society at large" because an above-average number of people cared about their death, or make some appeal to economic value, but practicality doesn't factor into it; for all practical purposes this singer and [random African guy] are equals to me in any context that concerns my perspective because I don't know who either of them are. Human value is entirely dependent on subjective criteria and to every person, most people are inconsiderable and "practically" worthless. Stating this doesn't make one "edgy". It's really sad that you presumptuous nerds who refuse to entertain perspectives other than your own keep trotting it out as insult-of-the-month because you refuse to confront the fact that no matter how compassionate and empathetic you are, there is a line at which you stop caring about others. If for no other reason than that you lack the mental faculties to keep an emotional inventory of every living thing. Also it's perfectly consistent to joke about death and hold the stance that all are equal and are equally precious if you believe that every death is equally worthy of being joked about. I eagerly await your concession to my superior reasoning skills. :^) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 1 hour ago, root said: I've always taken issue with the term "homophobia" since it's not just an irrational fear of homosexuals. Hating something doesn't automatically mean you fear it! It's old fashioned and based around "gay panic", the idea that homosexuality can scare straight men into doing violent things. (Which is what that murderer's cunt father is attempting to use as an argument.) Truly the better term is heterosexism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraphayx Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Butters said: It's old fashioned and based around "gay panic" Truly the better term is heterosexism. Can I still use heterophobic if I am terrified of normies? Answer urgently it is important that I use the most correct connotative statements whenever possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just now, Zaraphayx said: Can I still use heterophobic if I am terrified of normies? Answer urgently it is important that I use the most correct connotative statements whenever possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 we should kill all guns see how THEY like it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlastairSnowpaw Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 2 hours ago, 6tails said: Same way a gunman got past security and killed Dimebag. People are lazy. Yea that's pretty ridiculous. Like was there even a metal detector or something like that? That being said being a security guard must be super though in the sense that it's so boring and repetitive and the moment you relax shit like this happens. 1 hour ago, Zaraphayx said: Valuable to whom? You can say "society at large" because an above-average number of people cared about their death, or make some appeal to economic value, but practicality doesn't factor into it; for all practical purposes this singer and [random African guy] are equals to me in any context that concerns my perspective because I don't know who either of them are. Also it's perfectly consistent to joke about death and hold the stance that all are equal and are equally precious if you believe that every death is equally worthy of being joked about. I eagerly await your concession to my superior reasoning skills. :^) Ah okays I was just going by the context of practical purpose in society as large, which is what I thought it was based off. my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlastairSnowpaw Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, 6tails said: Well, we've got ceramic pistols and stuff. Not that excuses a freaking rifle, but still, many weapons are now being designed with newer composite materials, many of which do not set off metal detectors. ah well hopefully there are some kind of detectors being made as well then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless/Nameless Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 3 hours ago, root said: I've always taken issue with the term "homophobia" since it's not just an irrational fear of homosexuals. Hating something doesn't automatically mean you fear it! what if you're just scaerd of dicks 2 hours ago, Zaraphayx said: Valuable to whom? You can say "society at large" because an above-average number of people cared about their death, or make some appeal to economic value, but practicality doesn't factor into it; for all practical purposes this singer and [random African guy] are equals to me in any context that concerns my perspective because I don't know who either of them are. Human value is entirely dependent on subjective criteria and to every person, most people are inconsiderable and "practically" worthless. Stating this doesn't make one "edgy". It's really sad that you presumptuous nerds who refuse to entertain perspectives other than your own keep trotting it out as insult-of-the-month because you refuse to confront the fact that no matter how compassionate and empathetic you are, there is a line at which you stop caring about others. If for no other reason than that you lack the mental faculties to keep an emotional inventory of every living thing. Also it's perfectly consistent to joke about death and hold the stance that all are equal and are equally precious if you believe that every death is equally worthy of being joked about. I eagerly await your concession to my superior reasoning skills. :^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 The point isnt that you should care for every single death, becaude lets face it not everyone is going to The point is that there are some people that will care, even if they lack closeness to said individual, even in actuality...and you have absolutely no right to deem their emotions toward any seemingly insignificant person as useless (as them putting up a front as morally caring and emotional individuals), and then make jokes about it around said people. Tact is a nice skill to have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphoneer Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Okay, authorities identified one Kevin James Loibl as the shooter. OH MA GURD WHY HASN'T THE GERMAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY SPOKEN OUT AGAINST THIS SAVAGE SENSELESS ACT OF BRUTALITY??!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGmaster9 Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 Another thing, she was also a fan of metal bands like Iron Maiden and Metallica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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