Ayattar Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Now, on more serious note, for those who don't know anything about that yet.Link to the articleVideo footage from the explosionVideo footage from the aftermatch [gore warning]So, even after ISIS will be dealt with, it's impossible for us to expect the peace in the middle east. Not if the nations such as Kurds still remain without their own countries. And honestly, it's hard to believe that Turkey got accepted into NATO. But, actually thinking of it, since US is in it, everything is possible. And for those who know nothing about the problem there at all. Kurds are a nation of 30 million people who don't have their own country, living mostly in the eastern Turkey and northern Iraq. They've been fighting for their independence regularly since the late XIX century. In the last year they've been also the only force actively, succesively and effectively fighting the ISIS. Turkey on the other hand, being afraid that after ISIS is dealt with, they might have to deal with Kurdish Army or have to accept independent Kurdistan is indirectly supporting ISIS by bombind kurdish armed forces. Tl;dr: wrong kebabs got removed.Ocalan free Kurdistan! Edited October 11, 2015 by Ayattar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikazuki Marazhu Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 What a mess the Turks are in. Why can't Kurds just integrate themselves in Turkish society. Also... Thanks for simplifying things. It's quite helpful in understanding the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerig Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Blow them all up.It's all rightful Greek clay they're on anyway. Edited October 11, 2015 by Zerig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Blow them all up.It's all rightful Greek clay they're on anyway.greese Greece couldn't afford the upkeep :VIts Sad But a true fact that given all the divide in the middle east peace will most likely never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyAshes Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Turkey isn't in the middle east, it's part of Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaly Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 it's part of Europe. Only 3% of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedal Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Turkey isn't in the middle east, it's part of Europe. It's actually part of Asia, to be pedantic. Only a tiny part amounting to the area around Istanbul is located in Europe. The rest is considered part of Asia or the Middle East, depending on who you ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayattar Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Turkey isn't in the middle east, it's part of Europe. Ekhm...According to that logic Egypt is an asiatic country and Spain is african one. Edited October 11, 2015 by Ayattar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerig Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Turkey isn't in the middle east, it's part of Europe. nice try you devious turksmell, but true Europeans don't buy your liesgib back Constantinople 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinharia Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 To play Devil's Advocate, the part of Turkey that is in Europe is larger than Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, San Marino, Andorra and the Vactican City State put together. (all of those are in Europe btw and are incredibly tiny) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyAshes Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I think this is one of those 'But they aren't properly white and Christian so they can't possibly be European!' things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikugemu Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I think this is one of those 'But they aren't properly white and Christian so they can't possibly be European!' things.What...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 turkey is the kebab that needs to be removedeuropes shittiest neighbor everso much support and complicity for ISIS its maddeninggo back to samarkand u persian cunts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedal Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I think this is one of those 'But they aren't properly white and Christian so they can't possibly be European!' things.It has to do with where the majority of the population is located. Since the US has bases in Europe, and they cover more ground than the Vatican when put together, does that make the US a European country, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayattar Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) I think this is one of those 'But they aren't properly white and Christian so they can't possibly be European!' things.I think you're talking bullshit, having no knowledge at all on that matter. Look at: Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo. Ie. legit european muslim countries. In terms of whiteness Turks are no different from other mediterraneans.But geographically, they have only 3% of their territory and less than 20% of the population living on the european soil. Also culturally they're and always were alien to us. Even when they had most of the Balkans, they were still an asian country.Educate yourself.And stop derailing the topic. Edited October 11, 2015 by Ayattar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Didn't the turks shoot down a russkie jet recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 We're all a little bit kebab on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayattar Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) We're all a little bit kebab on the inside.I have this dirty secret of actually loving kebab and turkish sweets. Just you look at this. And thisAren't they cute? Whispering: "eat me, eat me", softly to my ear :C Edited October 11, 2015 by Ayattar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I think this is one of those 'But they aren't properly white and Christian so they can't possibly be European!' things.Are you fucking kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedal Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Aren't they cute? Whispering: "eat me, eat me", softly to my ear :C They look like squares of crap that have been frozen down and hid in snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derin Darkpaw Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I know its almost like having a bunch of foreign powers come into a country they know little about and just arbitrarily carving it up without concern for the cultures or people who live there is a terrible idea. For those of you who don't know about it look up the Sykes-Picot Agreement. It was basically a secret agreement made by France, The United Kingdoms, and Russia to carve up most of the Middle East after the first World War. The current terrible situation there is likely a direct result of intervention by Western powers.Also yeah the Kurds definitely deserve their own country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayattar Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) I know its almost like having a bunch of foreign powers come into a country they know little about and just arbitrarily carving it up without concern for the cultures or people who live there is a terrible idea. For those of you who don't know about it look up the Sykes-Picot Agreement. It was basically a secret agreement made by France, The United Kingdoms, and Russia to carve up most of the Middle East after the first World War. The current terrible situation there is likely a direct result of intervention by Western powers.Also yeah the Kurds definitely deserve their own country.You know, it's not all about that. In truth it's more about various groups of people developing a sense of ethinc affiliation, with nationalism and patriotism rising, with so called "national awakening" that happened in XVIII and XIX century across the whole world. Back when the Ottoman Empire was created there was little affiliation between lower social groups and the state. Only the elite was familiar with the idea of "nation". We had it the same in Europe - Ukraine, Germany, Belarus, Baltic States, even Italy, only a bit earlier. It's more a result of a world-wide trend, connected with the downfall of the social divisions.You must remember that before this "terrible agreement" there were no ethnically homogenous countries there as well. There was only one country - Ottoman Empire. Edited October 11, 2015 by Ayattar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derin Darkpaw Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 You know, it's not all about that. In truth it's more about various groups of people developing a sense of ethinc affiliation, with nationalism and patriotism rising, with so called "national awakening" that happened in XVIII and XIX century across the whole world. Back when the Ottoman Empire was created there was little affiliation between lower social groups and the state. Only the elite was familiar with the idea of "nation". We had it the same in Europe - Ukraine, Germany, Belarus, Baltic States, even Italy, only a bit earlier. It's more a result of a world-wide trend, connected with the downfall of the social divisions.You must remember that before this "terrible agreement" there were no ethnically homogenous countries there as well. There was only one country - Ottoman Empire.Thank you for correcting me. My knowledge on the subject is not particularly vast and I do appreciate learning more. However I still think its fair to say that Sykes-Picot Agreement did have a profound effect on how the West is viewed within the region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerig Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 They look like squares of crap that have been frozen down and hid in snow.turkish delight with fucking pistachiosdon't listen to Ayattar, I had some straight from Constantinople and it tastes awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolflich Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 They look like squares of crap that have been frozen down and hid in snow.I don't know what you've been eating but you should probably stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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