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22 minutes ago, #00Buck said:

I'm not a furry but looking at your culture from the outside...

Yeah...

And this is exactly what I'm talking about. When you become too involved with something, it becomes too easy to associate elements from what you're doing as the norm, which is why it's imperative to have an outside in perspective, otherwise you'd get lost in it. 

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Just now, Mr. Fox said:

And this is exactly what I'm talking about. When you get too involved with something, it becomes too easy to associate elements from what you're doing as the norm, which is why it's imperative to have an outside in perspective, otherwise you'd get lost in it. 

I think a lot of people here need to take two big steps back and get some perspective on what they're actually saying. 

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Holy fuck this person really wants to see my dick. This is the third PM in a row and I haven't said anything. That's it, I'm showing him this.

1 minute ago, #00Buck said:

Actually if you take four big steps back you can get some perspective on reality too. 

But reality is so boring when you're broke. 

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27 minutes ago, #00Buck said:

I'm not a furry but looking at your culture from the outside...

Yeah...

Yes, we all know this. We all poke fun at it all the time, daily. However, most people don't devote three quarters of their posts to complaining about furries unironically. 

Like, I fucking get it. I've been here long enough to know the community as a whole isn't great. However, I can't fathom why you'd stick around if all you do is complain. If you have such a bad time, do something else. 

 

I don't identify with most furries. I'm perfectly okay with this. I don't need the fandom to conform to me. I don't need to be a majority. The fandom can be whatever the fuck it wants because I will still find my place to have fun (which is here. You guys are great). 

I don't see the point in being upset with the community all the fucking time. I don't see the point in bitching about things I can't change. I don't see the point in worrying about our appearance to the outside. It's not ever going to be universally socially acceptable. Get the fuck over it. 

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1 hour ago, Falaffel said:

But guuuyyys! I want to believe the fandom I identify with is the spawn of Satan! I want to believe everyone is bad except my friends because that is a perfectly normal human response! 

Christ. I thought we were mostly over the self loathing phase. 

I was a self-loathing furry before it was cool.

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1 minute ago, Falaffel said:

Yes, we all know this. We all poke fun at it all the time, daily. However, most people don't devote three quarters of their posts to complaining about furries unironically. 

Like, I fucking get it. I've been here long enough to know the community as a whole isn't great. However, I can't fathom why you'd stick around if all you do is complain. If you have such a bad time, do something else. 

 

I don't identify with most furries. I'm perfectly okay with this. I don't need the fandom to conform to me. I don't need to be a majority. The fandom can be whatever the fuck it wants because I will still find my place to have fun (which is here. You guys are great). 

I don't see the point in being upset with the community all the fucking time. I don't see the point in bitching about things I can't change. I don't see the point in worrying about our appearance to the outside. It's not ever going to be universally socially acceptable. Get the fuck over it. 

Because all you "non-conformist" furries secretly want to be accepted and loved by the entire world while doing things that the rest of the world finds disgusting and stupid. 

Just now, root said:

I was a self-loathing furry before it was cool.

It still isn't cool.

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2 minutes ago, #00Buck said:

Because all you "non-conformist" furries secretly want to be accepted and loved by the entire world while doing things that the rest of the world finds disgusting and stupid. 

It still isn't cool.

Please accept the fact I like animal people :c

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3 minutes ago, Falaffel said:

Like, I fucking get it. I've been here long enough to know the community as a whole isn't great. However, I can't fathom why you'd stick around if all you do is complain.

Ironically, that's one of the reasons why most stick around. When all the anthro shit has ran its course and no longer interests you, you can always count on the fandom to give you something to complain about.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

Ironically, that's one of the reasons why most stick around. When all the anthro shit has ran its course and no longer interests you, you can always count on the fandom to give you something to complain about.

I don't like those people, simply put. They can do more with their lives, like actually enjoy things. 

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1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

Ironically, that's one of the reasons why most stick around. When all the anthro shit has ran its course and no longer interests you, you can always count on the fandom to give you something to complain about.

Subcultures ara a filter.

Normal happy people stay at the top.

Society as a whole filters out the miserable people who are not fit to associate with nice people.

The miserable people settle at the bottom and act the way that made them into unpopular outcasts to begin with. 

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4 minutes ago, #00Buck said:

Subcultures ara a filter.

Normal happy people stay at the top.

Society as a whole filters out the miserable people who are not fit to associate with nice people.

The miserable people settle at the bottom and act the way that made them into unpopular outcasts to begin with. 

The thing is, if society rejects you, what incentive is there to improve? 

Maybe those at the bottom have come to terms that they are shitty people and have found that being happy does not require another's approval. 

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23 minutes ago, root said:

I was a self-loathing furry before it was cool.

I have no idea about that :V

There's a difference between laughing at oneself and existential cognitive dissonance, though.

Ironically, the people in the latter group are blissfully unaware they are even doing that.
 

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Maybe those at the bottom have come to terms that they are shitty people and have found that being happy does not require another's approval. 

No. You (and many others) are getting social disorders mixed up.

The "people at the bottom" actually *do care* and aren't shitty people, just socially awkward.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Okay. Let me know when you are finished watching Youtube memes, and actually have something intelligent to say. You are projecting anyway, so until you realize that this conversation won't really go anywhere. "I have a social disability so everyone must have one too. That's obviously the only possibility here, amirite?"

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1 minute ago, Ricky said:

Okay. Let me know when you are finished watching Youtube memes, and actually have something intelligent to say. You are projecting anyway, so until you realize that this conversation won't really go anywhere. "I have a social disability so everyone must have one too. That's obviously the only possibility here, amirite?"

If you're looking for a serious answer, and don't take this as an attack, you have acted a little socially awkward over at FAF a few times. Just saying. 

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29 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The thing is, if society rejects you, what incentive is there to improve? 

Maybe those at the bottom have come to terms that they are shitty people and have found that being happy does not require another's approval. 

Rejection is the incentive. 

Being happy does not require another's approval because none of them are happy.

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10 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Do you have any concept of the difference between the internet and real life?

I'm sincerely curious, here.

Of course dude, I do live in both after all. But you claim that you don't act socially awkward yet there is evidence to the contrary. E.g: while discussing a babyfur topic over at FAF you claim a lab blowing up at the tent city you're staying at which in no way had any relation to the original topic. Some may misconstrue that as socially awkward behaviour (that was an interesting read by the way).

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Of course dude, I do live in both after all. But you claim that you don't act socially awkward yet there is evidence to the contrary. E.g: while discussing a babyfur topic over at FAF you claim a lab blowing up at the tent city you're staying at which in no way had any relation to the original topic. Some may misconstrue that as socially awkward behaviour (that was an interesting read by the way).

key word in bold

> implying I should be taking a thread about babyfurs seriously

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Just now, Ricky said:

key word in bold

> implying I should be taking a thread about babyfurs seriously

Well, whatever dude, but no one is innocent from acting socially awkward, we've all been guilty of it at some point. Just promise you'll never change.

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4 minutes ago, Falaffel said:

The "key word"  most likely being there as to be less incriminating to the poster: to be nice. 

I wouldn't post anything incriminating.

I mean, the facts were a bit skewed. I'm in a Tent City now and I left because of the whole motel incident.

The police were already involved in the ordeal and I didn't get arrested.

I'm not sure what they could even arrest me for.

2 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Just promise you'll never change.

Aww, you're sweet <3

And okay... Just for you :3

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1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

The thing is, if society rejects you, what incentive is there to improve? 

Maybe those at the bottom have come to terms that they are shitty people and have found that being happy does not require another's approval. 

I just came to the conclusion that society is going to bitch me out over what I do or don't do either way.

"What? You denied gunning for the traditional college route? You went to technical school? You're stupid! You're a failure at life! You're never going to get anywhere with an attitude like that!"

"How can you possibly not be chivalrous? You're a man! Stick to your gender's traditional roles! Be a leader! Serve women! Be this! Be that!"

"How can you stand being introverted? You should work on your social skills! Be more social! Get crazy! Be outgoing! You'll learn to like it over time!"

"You're not a patriot? You hate America! You're anti-American! Where's your nationalist spirit?"

"You oppose unchecked mass immigration to the US? You're not liberal enough!"

"You're not interested in keeping out every single immigrant? Holy smokes, you're a filthy libtard! Unlock your inner Trump!"

"You're a black atheist? Time to brand you as a racial outcast!"

I'm not sure if I'm just not normie enough for most people or if I just possess a passive "social apathy" aura that drives most people into savage frenzies the moment they sniff out the stinking non-conformist in me or something.

Or maybe I ask too many questions. Or perhaps it's both.

Whatever it is, I'm fairly confident that it's cemented in my genetic code and therefore is virtually (at least for now) impossible to alter.

I mean I get it: humans have a biological imperative to maintain group cohesion and solidarity by enforcing strict standards of social conformity in order to maximize the group's survival potential and minimize the odds of a rogue element fucking everything up for everyone (or at least that's what I suspect what all of this pro-normie shit has its origins in)---but holy fuck does it grate on my nerves sometimes.

And now you see why I act fake all the time. It's the best winning strategy that yields consistently positive results.

How else am I going to get people to do things for me?

 

 

 

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It's kind of heart warming to see the team pull together against this push for expanded after-hours monitoring. They're finally learning to push for what they can get, not just meekly ask for what seems reasonable (hint: they under cut and fall all over themselves by trying to seem 'reasonable') or accepting what they are given.

They are learning to bargain as equals rather than underlings.

All the better that it benefits me with twice the effectiveness at a sixth the effort on my part ^.^

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On 6/13/2016 at 0:21 AM, #00Buck said:

Good!

I'm Canadian.

That just makes Canada look better by comparison. 

Daddy will fix everything for us.

Let the chalking of his great name take place in all the safe spaces. 

I'm going to vote for Trump so he will build a wall... on the Canadian border!

Keep all you filthy Canuck commies out of our great land of freedom and eagles!

 

13 hours ago, Lemon said:

Wait, someone here asked this of you?

immediately report that to the mods when that shit happens. 

It was FAF dear. Nothing new to see here, keep moving.

 

3 hours ago, I Did It For The Cat Girls said:

"You're a black atheist? Time to brand you as a racial outcast!

Hmm. Catgirls is black?

I pretty much see everyone online as a bunch of fat bearded white guys and crazed tumblr feminists so it's interesting to find out otherwise.

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1 hour ago, Crazy Lee said:

Hmm. Catgirls is black?

I pretty much see everyone online as a bunch of fat bearded white guys and crazed tumblr feminists so it's interesting to find out otherwise.

Yeah my brain automatically assumes everyone is white unless they have a black profile picture or type Ebonics in a non-satirical fashion. (Is that racist?)

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I feel like I'm one of the few twenty-somethings that doesn't care so much about "Finding Dory". I mean, I enjoyed "Finding Nemo" back when it came out 13 years ago. But holy shit, Dory was annoying. 

I have nothing against her voice actress, but I just found the forgetful Blue Tang exceedingly irritating.

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I want to art.

I am fully aware that good arting requires a ton of practice to become good. I also believe there is some innate talent there as well, that some are better than others because of the kind of brain (and possibly meyers briggs personality) they have, so it's somewhat easier for them, even if it requires practice.

I just think arting about everything that bugs me, about the things that frustrate me, would be a great way of coping with things. I'm getting my frustrations on everything onto paper so I can get it out and vent it. I'd probably also art a lot of the songs that make me happy as well.

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15 minutes ago, Crazy Lee said:

I want to art.

I am fully aware that good arting requires a ton of practice to become good. I also believe there is some innate talent there as well, that some are better than others because of the kind of brain (and possibly meyers briggs personality) they have, so it's somewhat easier for them, even if it requires practice.

I just think arting about everything that bugs me, about the things that frustrate me, would be a great way of coping with things. I'm getting my frustrations on everything onto paper so I can get it out and vent it. I'd probably also art a lot of the songs that make me happy as well.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty much the same.

 

I find 3D stuff comes very readily to me, so, I can make stuff in 3D quite well.

 

But, I'm out of practice, and any natural talent I may have had feels like it's being squandered by my laziness and my inability to command myself to do anything with it.

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1 hour ago, root said:

Yeah my brain automatically assumes everyone is white unless they have a black profile picture or type Ebonics in a non-satirical fashion. (Is that racist?)

Just so you know I am actually a loaf of sourdough. So some kind of brown, though I'm too cultured to use breadspeak.

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14 minutes ago, Sourdough said:

Actually it was likely the Fertile Crescent millennia ago, but that does not diminish the probability of gay.

Interesting, yeah I heard that having lived in SF but now reading the wiki it was where it was first brought to this country.

Not surprising since it's technically any bread made with yeast with bacteria added.

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2 minutes ago, Saxon said:

Producing art does not alleviate stress, you guys; it heightens it.

I think that depends entirely on what the goal for your art is.

Are you seeking approval? Improvement? Fame? To make a statement? To tell a story?

For me, and I can't speak for anyone else on this matter, creating art is a very relaxing activity because I can shut out all other distractions in my life and focus entirely on the pure joy of making something. Not really caring about the results. Its cathartic.

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