Paris is Under Attack.

[Ratmomma]

This does not work

It works just as well as making drugs illegal  Shits still gonna get thru. I guess it's more a hope of making what gets thru a trickle instead of a flood _{which clearly works so well}

Does it matter that they aren't doing that to him personally? Those savages ARE doing what he said, that is bad enough!

Sure, not all of them, we shouldn't generalize it. But we are talking about countries in which it is regulated by fairy tale laws that gays should be executed in public or sentenced to life in prison, just for being who they are.

As for immigrants? I am ok with those as long as they can behave according to OUR rules and can contribute to our society. They can keep all the raping, illiterate assholes who come were with the only goal too mooch off of our social systems. Many immigrants from arabic countries come here to Germany and establish small pockets in which they live just like they did in their home countries. What is even the point of that? O_o If you come here to have a better life, why live by the crappy old rules fromt he country you wanted to get away from? :'D

I am perfectly fine with refugees by the way. They are coming from a warzone and just want some help. And according to the lastest reports they are causing less trouble than immigrants from islamic countries. Those poor bastards just want a place to stay!

We have a lot of refugees in my city (US, btw) and honestly they don't really cause any problems, because like you said, they just want a place to stay. It's the locals that cause the fucking problems, because they don't have to worry about being deported. If a refugee fucks up, you can bet the first thing on their mind is "oh god, are they going to deport me?"

[Zeitzbach]

Damn.

This better not delay my Wakfu Movie by another year.

[Ratmomma]

When I woke up this morning and I found out about the attack I was choked again, it's like the drama from Charlie Hebdo was only yesterday and now this. I always thought terrorism was something distant, but with an attack like this happening only 300km away from where I live how can one still feel safe?

It's just an illusion that governments can keep you safe, cause face it, if something as big as this can go down unnoticed we have serious security issues. And whatever organisation might have done this, they want to send a clear message, and they sure did.

 

I so seriously doubt it went unnoticed in this day and age. If the US government had intel that there was going to be a hit on Pearl Harbor in the fucking 1940's, and had intel on 9/11, there's no goddamn way someone didn't notice something. Someone fucked up somewhere.

Damn.

This better not delay my Wakfu Movie by another year.

MMORPG it then :U

I used to play their MMORPG a lot when I was in university, then the tweenagers discovered it and shat all over the server.

[Nova]

The only way stop that fucking isisi theorists is a nuke. 

Its the only way since it could erease the leader of them

[Zeitzbach]

MMORPG it then :U

I used to play their MMORPG a lot when I was in university, then the tweenagers discovered it and shat all over the server.

I'm not going back to investing 6 hours a day on games.

[Ratmomma]

I'm not going back to investing 6 hours a day on games.

You're just hella jelly my Sadida was more jacked than yours.

[Sarcastic Coffeecup]

The only way stop that fucking isisi theorists is a nuke. 

Its the only way since it could erease the leader of them

topkek m8 

[Hakar-Kerarmor]

The only way stop that fucking isisi theorists is a nuke. 

Its the only way since it could erease the leader of them

Spoken like a true 'Murican.

 

Besides, terrorism is like Skynet. It's not concentrated on some server in someone's basement.

[Revates]

The only way stop that fucking isisi theorists is a nuke. 

Its the only way since it could erease the leader of them

I hope you're not serious. Their religious extremism is an ideal and nuking Isis won't help, if anything it would rally more to retaliate.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Revates
Wrong word

[Butters]

Damn.

This better not delay my Wakfu Movie by another year.

Ssssssssccccrrrrooooggggggeeeee~~~~ Tonight you shall be visited by 3 ghooooooooosssttttsssss!!!!!!!

(who knows if it'd be good anyway?)

ot: this is the world we live in. The little people always suffer the most when high lords play their game of thrones. I'm just gonna keep calm and carry on cuz there's nothing you can do to change things. Hope people don't go Anti-Muslim crazy like they always do after similiar events to 9/11. I was young when it happened but old enough to notice people unleashing their hidden racism/bigotry. 

Aint nobody got time to be terrorised and prayers don't do shit. So just be alert and go about your business and you'll see that life goes on. 

[Spot]

A while back I was joking about just how low furries can go - and I think this is it. Ya'll know me, the shit-post extraordinaire! I'll laugh at and about almost anything. But this, joking about the eradication of an entire culture and the slaughtering of innocent people... Well, even I know that's going to far. 

 

[KookyFox]

Okay, so my fench dude insight on all of this. People were shot and bombed dead all over Paris, including at the Stade de France (the national Stadium) where a France-Germany football game was playing. François Hollande, our president, was present at that game and was evacuated right away.
After this he closed the borders for the night and re-opened this morning and re-enabled border controls.

This shows that the high level of security we already had was completely useless (we had infantry already patrolling the streets, in combat gear with their guns locked and loaded), but yet we are going to end up even more opressed from this. All of this is also going to serve Manuel Valls as well as the far right.

They were already closing porn websites before this, I wouldn't be surprised if we underwent a national curfew in the next days.
France is falling apart from all sides, terrorism being only one of our many concerns (as the french people, since the government counts as a problem too).

 

We are approaching a time of change here, we're diving in deep into unknown, and I would be a liar if I said I'm not curious about it.

The victims are a shame yes, but strangely everyone here around me, including me, doesn't care about them, none are my relatives, and I feel like this "bloodbath" is only a droplet of plasma, comapred to the slaughter that is to come.

 

There's a lot more to all of this than just a terrorist attack, please consider this.

[TrishaCat]

Damn.

This better not delay my Wakfu Movie by another year.

I know its insensitive, but this crossed my mind as well, and I feel kind of bad for it. 

The #PrayforParis thing is really pissing me off right now... Yeah, let's just all sit on our asses, do NOTHING and ask an imaginary skymonster to help people who were killed by loonatics who ALSO worship an imaginary skymonster! Makes perfect sense!

Please don't misunderstand; people already know there's not much they can do other than hope that everything turns out okay and that this crisis ends. Look at everyone here; we're all on this forum just sad about it and hoping for the best, disregarding all the arguing of course. All #PrayforParis is is just that; another way of people expressing their sadness and hope for those in Paris.  There's no reason to be upset over it. 

Edited November 14, 2015 by Battlechili

[KyryK]

The only way stop that fucking isisi theorists is a nuke. 

Its the only way since it could erease the leader of them

Not at all, you'll never be able to stop an ideology, and you'll never be able to stop events like this no matter the perpetrators. Although i can see how the threat of nuclear retaliation as a counter act of terror might be a way to make people like this think twice about future attacks but only if IS, or any other power hungry group of extremists that might be out there, do actually succeed in establishing a stable rulership over a country. Although that's a very extreme measure that would only be (in theory) justifiable under very specific circumstances that i highly doubt will ever come about.

[Dr. Doggo]

France is falling apart from all sides, terrorism being only one of our many concerns (as the french people, since the government counts as a problem too).

We are approaching a time of change here, we're diving in deep into unknown, and I would be a liar if I said I'm not curious about it.

The victims are a shame yes, but strangely everyone here around me, including me, doesn't care about them, none are my relatives, and I feel like this "bloodbath" is only a droplet of plasma, comapred to the slaughter that is to come.

There's a lot more to all of this than just a terrorist attack, please consider this.

my frenchbros told me similar things, there's a huge happening on not just france's but on europe's hands. sadly everyone likes listening to newspapers and believing that everything will be hunky-dory and there is no ongoing crisis from many different angles.

stay strong, froggies

never surrender

[KookyFox]

my frenchbros told me similar things, there's a huge happening on not just france's but on europe's hands. sadly everyone likes listening to newspapers and believing that everything will be hunky-dory and there is no ongoing crisis from many different angles.

stay strong, froggies

never surrender

Surrender?

I will fight till the end, cross my heart!

[Ratmomma]

I believe it's important to remember that: Israel, Pakistan, Iran, and the United Arab Emirates have all publicly condemned the terror attacks yesterday in Paris and announced their sympathy with France, and to remember that just because one group of people goes out of their way to harm people, doesn't mean the entire religious following is a lot of murder hungry sociopaths. Millions and millions of Muslims all over the world have been actively expressing their heartache and sympathy over what's happened, and their pain and sympathy is just as equal and valid as the pain and sympathy felt by anyone else affected by the tragedy.

Okay, so my fench dude insight on all of this. People were shot and bombed dead all over Paris, including at the Stade de France (the national Stadium) where a France-Germany football game was playing. François Hollande, our president, was present at that game and was evacuated right away.
After this he closed the borders for the night and re-opened this morning and re-enabled border controls.

This shows that the high level of security we already had was completely useless (we had infantry already patrolling the streets, in combat gear with their guns locked and loaded), but yet we are going to end up even more opressed from this. All of this is also going to serve Manuel Valls as well as the far right.

They were already closing porn websites before this, I wouldn't be surprised if we underwent a national curfew in the next days.
France is falling apart from all sides, terrorism being only one of our many concerns (as the french people, since the government counts as a problem too).

 

We are approaching a time of change here, we're diving in deep into unknown, and I would be a liar if I said I'm not curious about it.

The victims are a shame yes, but strangely everyone here around me, including me, doesn't care about them, none are my relatives, and I feel like this "bloodbath" is only a droplet of plasma, comapred to the slaughter that is to come.

 

There's a lot more to all of this than just a terrorist attack, please consider this.

Sounds like a precursor to a V for Vendetta scenario.

[KookyFox]

Actually now would be a great time for the army to take power through a Coup d'Etat, I personally wouldn't complain... yeah that's how far things have gone here, I've come to not minding a military Coup d'Etat!

[Ratmomma]

Ssssssssccccrrrrooooggggggeeeee~~~~ Tonight you shall be visited by 3 ghooooooooosssttttsssss!!!!!!!

(who knows if it'd be good anyway?)

ot: this is the world we live in. The little people always suffer the most when high lords play their game of thrones. I'm just gonna keep calm and carry on cuz there's nothing you can do to change things. Hope people don't go Anti-Muslim crazy like they always do after similiar events to 9/11. I was young when it happened but old enough to notice people unleashing their hidden racism/bigotry. 

Aint nobody got time to be terrorised and prayers don't do shit. So just be alert and go about your business and you'll see that life goes on. 

Prayers are only good for two things:

1. expressing your sympathy/solidarity

2. 'doing something' when you're actually doing nothing

Sometimes it's literally all you can do, because either you're too far away to do something, or you simply cannot do anything as an individual (which for people in different nations is the story here, and it's too soon for any kind of aftermath charity to have been set up). And unfortunately other times, it's just a lazy way of saying YEH I DID SOMETHING, when in fact you've done nothing and all you're going to do after publicly posting your prayer is return to your mundane life and completely forget about anything that's happened.

[KyryK]

Actually now would be a great time for the army to take power through a Coup d'Etat, I personally wouldn't complain... yeah that's how far things have gone here, I've come to not minding a military Coup d'Etat!

How exactly would a military coup be a benefit to your country?

[Ratmomma]

Actually now would be a great time for the army to take power through a Coup d'Etat, I personally wouldn't complain... yeah that's how far things have gone here, I've come to not minding a military Coup d'Etat!

Against what though, ISIS? You can slaughter the group, but you cannot slaughter the ideology behind it. Peaceful muslims already condemn and despise ISIS, and don't consider them to be a part of the greater religion they follow, so I suppose all you can do is try to reach the youth and the vulnerable and teach them better, so that ISIS has no numbers to pull from anymore?

[Dr. Doggo]

How exactly would a military coup be a benefit to your country?

regime change

[KookyFox]

How exactly would a military coup be a benefit to your country?

our government is abusive of our rights, and the prime minister has discreetly granted himself full powers through constituion quirks. Also we have a very high national security problem, if it wasn't obvious by now, so a tempered version of martial law could sove the issue.

Against what though, ISIS? You can slaughter the group, but you cannot slaughter the ideology behind it. Peaceful muslims already condemn and despise ISIS, and don't consider them to be a part of the greater religion they follow, so I suppose all you can do is try to reach the youth and the vulnerable and teach them better, so that ISIS has no numbers to pull from anymore?

A Coup d'Etat is by definition against the state, that is here, against the governement. They should arrest the whole government and take power, 2 tanks in front of each government building, and a squad of paracommandos sent in to arrest them: problem solved

[Ratmomma]

Ssssssssccccrrrrooooggggggeeeee~~~~ Tonight you shall be visited by 3 ghooooooooosssttttsssss!!!!!!!

(who knows if it'd be good anyway?)

ot: this is the world we live in. The little people always suffer the most when high lords play their game of thrones. I'm just gonna keep calm and carry on cuz there's nothing you can do to change things. Hope people don't go Anti-Muslim crazy like they always do after similiar events to 9/11. I was young when it happened but old enough to notice people unleashing their hidden racism/bigotry. 

Aint nobody got time to be terrorised and prayers don't do shit. So just be alert and go about your business and you'll see that life goes on. 

Actually, there is something you can do. You already recognize that being a racist bigot is scumbag behavior and shouldn't be tolerated, and so when you see it being exercised, you squash the bug. Teach others around you that racism and bigotry is wrong and shouldn't be tolerated. The world isn't a singular place anymore, and each nation is rather multicultural now, so instead of being people being jackasses, you can lead by example (like you already are, as I can tell just from your post that you're not a racist piece of shit) and help mold a more accepting, open hearted group of people.

our government is abusive of our rights, and the prime minister has discreetly granted himself full powers through constituion quirks. Also we have a very high national security problem, if it wasn't obvious by now, so a tempered version of martial law could sove the issue.

A Coup d'Etat is by definition against the state, that is here, against the governement. They should arrest the whole government and take power, 2 tanks in front of each government building, and a squad of paracommandos sent in to arrest them: problem solved

Perhaps your government being so obsessed with policing its citizens missed communications that could have prevented or lessened the damage of what has happened? I mean...if they're too busy with themselves, how are they ever going to see outside threats? I can see how your coup would bring forth a change, in that respect.

[Butters]

This thread is horrible and some of the stuff I'm reading people say is appalling.

this was me from 2001-2006. Only irl. 

 

[Ratmomma]

this was me from 2001-2006. Only irl. 

 

That's me right now on my fucking Facebook feed 8(

[KyryK]

regime change

And what positive change would a regime change produce that would outweigh the temporary destabilization of a major european power? 

our government is abusive of our rights, and the prime minister has discreetly granted himself full powers through constituion quirks. Also we have a very high national security problem, if it wasn't obvious by now, so a tempered version of martial law could sove the issue.

A Coup d'Etat is by definition against the state, that is here, against the governement. They should arrest the whole government and take power, 2 tanks in front of each government building, and a squad of paracommandos sent in to arrest them: problem solved

And a military dictatorship wouldn't be abusive of your rights? Again, how would a coup help in any way with the security problem or actually help with anything?

[Dr. Doggo]

And what positive change would a regime change produce that would outweigh the temporary destabilization of a major european power? 

And a military dictatorship wouldn't be abusive of your rights? Again, how would a coup help in any way with the security problem or actually help with anything?

I couldn't tell you, I don't know the ins and outs of french politics. Germany I could understand, however.

[Hakar-Kerarmor]

I believe it's important to remember that: Israel, Pakistan, Iran, and the United Arab Emirates have all publicly condemned the terror attacks yesterday in Paris and announced their sympathy with France, and to remember that just because one group of people goes out of their way to harm people, doesn't mean the entire religious following is a lot of murder hungry sociopaths. Millions and millions of Muslims all over the world have been actively expressing their heartache and sympathy over what's happened, and their pain and sympathy is just as equal and valid as the pain and sympathy felt by anyone else affected by the tragedy.

Another thing to remember is that, every year, a whole lot of Muslims also fall victim to attacks like these. So it's rather asinine for people to insist that this is some 'Muslims vs the world' thing.

[KookyFox]

guys what I'm telling you is my insight as a french person, you don't know much about our internal politics, but I can tell you that our government is ineffective and abusive. None of the surveillance laws they passed (through a constitution quirk again by the way, the 49:3 , look it up) has helped stopping this attack. Instead it was used to shut down, free media websites, arrest freelance journalists and close porn websites (RIP xbooru and xhamster here, I highly suspect e621, u18chan and inkbunny will follow, maybe even 7 chan; cuz yeah they're also removing chans from our DNS).

I'm not the only one here who wishes that the army takes power, the government has taken away most of their privileges as well as their power (retirement age is now the same as for civilians 65 to 67 years old, the pays are lower than civillian minimum wage etc...), many amongst the high command and the troops are awaiting an opportunity to take power, and they know that the majority of the people will support them.

 

[Sourdough]

Another thing to remember is that, every year, a whole lot of Muslims also fall victim to attacks like these. So it's rather asinine for people to insist that this is some 'Muslims vs the world' thing.

Of course they do. I seriously doubt these terrorists care though, it's 'for the cause'.

Most people forget that the majority of victims from Islamic fundamentalist attacks are Muslims themselves.

[Butters]

guys what I'm telling you is my insight as a french person, you don't know much about our internal politics, but I can tell you that our government is ineffective and abusive. None of the surveillance laws they passed (through a constitution quirk again by the way, the 49:3 , look it up) has helped stopping this attack. Instead it was used to shut down, free media websites, arrest freelance journalists and close porn websites (RIP xbooru and xhamster here, I highly suspect e621, u18chan and inkbunny will follow, maybe even 7 chan; cuz yeah they're also removing chans from our DNS).

I'm not the only one here who wishes that the army takes power, the government has taken away most of their privileges as well as their power (retirement age is now the same as for civilians 65 to 67 years old, the pays are lower than civillian minimum wage etc...), many amongst the high command and the troops are awaiting an opportunity to take power, and they know that the majority of the people will support them.

 

I've heard your current pres is pretty disliked. But I didn't really research why ;-; (although I did hear that your airline unions ripped the shirts off of some rich dudes who wanted to lay them off. That was kinda cool. :3) 

im just hoping that you guys don't have to go thru what we Americans did with George W Bush post 2001. Those were really ugly times for us and truly harmful to us too. I think your president wants a war on terror.

[KyryK]

I couldn't tell you, I don't know the ins and outs of french politics. Germany I could understand, however.

...Well ok then, this could be interesting. What would the benefits of a military coup in Germany be? Assuming that's what you're saying.

Another thing to remember is that, every year, a whole lot of Muslims also fall victim to attacks like these. So it's rather asinine for people to insist that this is some 'Muslims vs the world' thing.

But thinking hurts and blind hate is so much simpler.

guys what I'm telling you is my insight as a french person, you don't know much about our internal politics, but I can tell you that our government is ineffective and abusive. None of the surveillance laws they passed (through a constitution quirk again by the way, the 49:3 , look it up) has helped stopping this attack. Instead it was used to shut down, free media websites, arrest freelance journalists and close porn websites (RIP xbooru and xhamster here, I highly suspect e621, u18chan and inkbunny will follow, maybe even 7 chan; cuz yeah they're also removing chans from our DNS).

I'm not the only one here who wishes that the army takes power, the government has taken away most of their privileges as well as their power (retirement age is now the same as for civilians 65 to 67 years old, the pays are lower than civillian minimum wage etc...), many amongst the high command and the troops are awaiting an opportunity to take power, and they know that the majority of the people will support them.

 

And i'm asking why your insight as a French person has led you to want a coup, what's the positive outcome of such a thing? What will change besides you not having to worry about your furry porn networks being blocked.

[KookyFox]

 

And i'm asking why your insight as a French person has led you to want a coup, what's the positive outcome of such a thing? What will change besides you not having to worry about your furry porn networks being blocked.

the french army's high command is full of people fit for decision making, unlike our government, that is appallingly full of unintelligent people taken from the wealthy "elite" of our society. The french army is very special, and always had the love of the people, no matter their views on politics, they will suit the needs of all, ending for a time the inside fight between the extremes (far left, far right, religious extremist, regional extremists...).

Also last time we had the army in power, was under De Gaulle, and it was one of the best times in our history.

[Kellie Gator]

Does it matter that they aren't doing that to him personally? Those savages ARE doing what he said, that is bad enough!

Ahem.

Gaydog praises burning of refugee camps, you know, THE CAMPS WITH PEOPLE RUNNING AWAY FROM FUCKING ISIS.

Gaydog is called out on his horrible shit.

Gaydog says this:

Is it really true colours?

If you jab Fido with a stick a dozen times and he snarls, is that his "true colors"?

Implying that refugees/muslims/ISIS (they're all the same to him because he generalizes) are directly "jabbing" Gaydog "with a stick".

Except, muslims haven't done anything to Gaydog. Yet he chooses his position which is that refugee camps with people running away from ISIS should be burned.

Why?

Because Gaydog is xenophobic and a gaydog.

The rest of your post is fine and agreeable though.

[Sourdough]

Muslims make surprisingly good drinking buddies. Though one accidentally took my pint instead of his own once, that's when I condemned his entire religion and every Turk ever because why not.

[KyryK]

the french army's high command is full of people fit for decision making, unlike our government, that is appallingly full of unintelligent people taken from the wealthy "elite" of our society. The french army is very special, and always had the love of the people, no matter their views on politics, they will suit the needs of all, ending for a time the inside fight between the extremes (far left, far right, religious extremist, regional extremists...).

Also last time we had the army in power, was under De Gaulle, and it was one of the best times in our history.

Ignoring the fact that military decision making doesn't necessarily translate into a wider political sphere and that such a coup would most likely bring widespread condemnation from western countries, effecting France's standing and international position to a greater or lesser extent. The French army is nothing special, it's an army, and above all it will suit the needs of itself if it takes power. I have no idea why you think a military dictatorship would end an internal fight between left/right political extremes (groups that might be pushed into more violent actions if their legitimacy as parties/groups is denied or suppressed) and it wouldn't do a thing about religious and regional extremists, groups that themselves want power separate from the established French government. And De Gaulle's been dead for 45 years, just because things were apparently rosy under his rule doesn't mean a current military government would be a continuation of that.

[Kellie Gator]

Friendly reminder:

ISIS opposes multiculturalism.

[Zeke]

Just as a reminder:

 

Please  do not treat this forum like it is storm front.org. if you want to spout hateful rhetoric on the Parisian an crisis, do it somewhere else. Such behavior will not be tolerated here or any where else on the forum. Continuing to do so will be grounds for a warning/infraction.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Ozriel

[Tsuujou]

This thread is horrible and some of the stuff I'm reading people say is appalling.

Dont insult my thread ever again, fam. 

[Brass]

This is good thread. 

[Ratmomma]

This is good thread. 

You know it's good when the mods start warning people.

Also, inb4 topic locked.

[Kellie Gator]

Just as a reminder:

 

Please  do not treat this forum like it is storm front.org. if you want to spout hateful rhetoric on the Parisian an crisis, do it somewhere else. Such behavior will not be tolerated here or any where else on the forum. Continuing to do so will be grounds for a warning/infraction.

Please stop waving fingers and do something.

[Brass]

Please stop waving fingers and do something.

Yes please someone give Kellie a good slap. 

[Kellie Gator]

Yes please someone give Kellie a good slap. 

i'm a masochist, slap me all you like bby ;3 

[Tsuujou]

i'm a masochist, slap me all you like bby ;3 

For real. I'mma get ten of my niggas to over there wit spatulas and spank dat ass.

[Zeke]

Please stop waving fingers and do something.

Giving an in thread warning IS doing something. If people continue after without heeding it, then I will do something else to solve the issue with hate mongering.

Stay on topic and do not use an excuse of a tragedy to be assholes. 

Edited November 14, 2015 by Ozriel

[Hakar-Kerarmor]

Please stop waving fingers and do something.

Funny, that's what we are telling our politicians/government as well.

[Ometochtli]

Sure is a lot of Daily Mail, Britain First rhetoric ITT

[Tsuujou]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516

Well shit...