Tsuujou Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-34815972The numbers are climbing and raw info is still coming in.EDIT: This thread is for info updates on the Paris attacks. Not armchair political rhetoric. Edited November 16, 2015 by XoPachi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charrio Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Just the start... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourdough Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Absolutely horrifying stuff. 35 dead at last count, sure to be more. Apparently a few of the shooters were heard saying it was 'for Syria'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerig Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 surpriseits muslimsagainhaha who would've guessed 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Here's a live broadcast on YouTube by SkyNews for anybody interestedPretty scary stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I heard something was happening in France and I thought it was like an Earthquake or something. Well fuck me.I'm looking around the usual sources for interesting tidbits of info, but have this lovely Vine of a suicide bomber in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikazuki Marazhu Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Paris...the city of war love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) These murderers throwing away their lives or the crowd that supports them in such acts in the name of their "holy" mission, I can hardly perceive them as human beings. They're nothing more than tools meticulously brainwashed for the purpose of spreading their hateful creed.Unforgivable scum. Edited November 13, 2015 by Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 soooo...are we going to admit that these Islamic terrorists need to be stopped?There's a lot of people waving it off as a non-issue or something. I dont understand, this is an extremely common phenomenon are we not going to be more wary of these people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Lee Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I heard about this, from all places, on George Takei's facebook account. Oh myyyyy.... In all seriousness I would think this will be the work of ISIS or another terrorist group. This involves too many people and too well coordinated to be a lone-man attack, just some guy influenced by watching stuff online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourdough Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 soooo...are we going to admit that these Islamic terrorists need to be stopped?There's a lot of people waving it off as a non-issue or something. I dont understand, this is an extremely common phenomenon are we not going to be more wary of these people? I doubt people will 'wave off' an attack on the capital city of a European power. The French won't tolerate inaction on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 In other news, is anyone here from France? I know there is/were two forum regulars from there. Its a little worrying and cant imagine what its like to live by there. Real scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'm seeing things that say Rome, DC, and London are next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 We should let them flood into Canada and America too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) In all seriousness I would think this will be the work of ISIS or another terrorist group. This involves too many people and too well coordinated to be a lone-man attack, just some guy influenced by watching stuff online.Rumor has that this was the work of an internal, France-based terror group not directly affiliated with ISIS or any other high-profile group like that. It's more believable when you remember that ISIS really likes to take credit for these things almost immediately, and apparently France has had a long-standing weapon smuggling problem making it not too hard to get access to guns and other military hardware.Also it can't be a lone-man attack because I'm pretty sure one person can't commit multiple suicide bombings. Edited November 13, 2015 by PastryOfApathy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukh Whitefang Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 This seems like an Al Qaeda style attack. ISIS hasn't done anything this well coordinated before (not saying its possible though). Dozens of operatives, at least 4 explosions (2 of which were suicide bombers from what I hear). My question is, is how was something this well coordinated missed in the intel world. The French are not novices to anti-terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourdough Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'm seeing things that say Rome, DC, and London are next.Got any links? I can well believe London will be attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I doubt people will 'wave off' an attack on the capital city of a European power. The French won't tolerate inaction on this one.More referring to people wcry "Racism" and "Islamaphobe" as if an entire group of people who's mission is to kill without caring about how much you care about peace I know there are a lot of mn, women, and children that arent at fault, but at the same time there's a lot inherently wrong in some of their belief, the ones that follow their values in killing others, beheading enemies, abusing women.Anyone can correct me if Im wrong as I know little about politics but this cant be just an issue of race... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Got any links? I can well believe London will be attacked.Nothing credible. Just chatter I'm seeing here and there. Tossing it out in case anyone else heard it and has something on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 More referring to people wcry "Racism" and "Islamaphobe" as if an entire group of people who's mission is to kill without caring about how much you care about peace I know there are a lot of mn, women, and children that arent at fault, but at the same time there's a lot inherently wrong in some of their belief, the ones that follow their values in killing others, beheading enemies, abusing women.Anyone can correct me if Im wrong as I know little about politics but this cant be just an issue of race...We're not talking about race, nobody mentioned raceWe're talking about a barbaric religion that condones and encourages this type of thing.Nobody is surprised that it's Muslims doing this. Are you surprised? Be honest. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Lee Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Rumor has that this was the work of an internal, France-based terror group not directly affiliated with ISIS or any other high-profile group like that. It's more believable when you remember that ISIS really likes to take credit for these things almost immediately.Also it can't be a lone-man attack because I'm pretty sure one person can't commit multiple suicide bombings.Still some sort of organization, though. Possibly even funded/encouraged by a larger organization.Wonder how long it will be before people on the right will condemn immigration or multiculturalism, and start saying we should send them all back to their home countries and keep Europe as white as possible.*looks up a few comments* ah, nevermind.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 This seems like an Al Qaeda style attack. ISIS hasn't done anything this well coordinated before (not saying its possible though). Dozens of operatives, at least 4 explosions (2 of which were suicide bombers from what I hear). My question is, is how was something this well coordinated missed in the intel world. The French are not novices to anti-terrorism.No country, much less their government is infallible, and it only takes one to slip through the cracks for shit to get bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) We're not talking about race, nobody mentioned raceWe're talking about a barbaric religion that condones and encourages this type of thing.Nobody is surprised that it's Muslims doing this. Are you surprised? Be honest.No but people attribute it as a race or religion issue. And people want to tolerate all races and religions.Ordinarily that wouldnt be a problem if they werent straight up killing everyoneEdit: Also, I was referring to Islamic muslims asthe offenders, as (typically, with the exception of converts) all Islamics are Muslim, but not all Muslim's are Islamic.I kinda messed up in the original post, I did mean the religion of Islam Edited November 14, 2015 by WolfNightV4X1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 " Hostages from Bataclan told CNN that “terrorists calmly executed hostages, reloaded, executed again in silence.” "They're pretty much mindless tools of their hateful creed. No remorse whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Still some sort of organization, though. Possibly even funded/encouraged by a larger organization.It's safe to say they were certainly part of some organization, and that they were at the very least inspired by some kind of greater terrorist group such as ISIS or something. No but people attribute it as a race or religion issue. And people want to tolerate all races and religions.Ordinarily that wouldnt be a problem if they werent straight up killing everyoneThere's nothing inherently evil about islam or something like that, at least not more so than virtually every other major religion to ever exist.It's just that the culture around it, that despite years of social progress around the world continues to persist is to put it mildly, absolutely fucking toxic. Edited November 14, 2015 by PastryOfApathy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukh Whitefang Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) No country, much less their government is infallible, and it only takes one to slip through the cracks for shit to get bad.I know that things can be missed (9/11). But this is the size of a terror cell group. Not a lone wolf event. Hard to believe that this was completely missed by the intelligence community in this day and age. Seven separate nearly simultaneous attacks. There were communications, somewhere. Edited November 14, 2015 by Rukh Whitefang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) I know that things can be missed (9/11). But this is the size of a terror cell group. Not a lone wolf event. Hard to believe that this was completely missed by the intelligence community in this day and age. Seven separate nearly simultaneous attacks. There were communications, somewhere.Bureaucracy's a hell of a drug man. Edited November 14, 2015 by PastryOfApathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 This is a terrible situation all around.I'm very much dreading to see all of the hatred, xenophobia and racism that will inevitably follow in the coming weeks from this event 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 New York has buffed their security as a precaution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixDragon Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 You can add another 100 deaths, the dead hostages that were in the Bataclan cafe, which makes it to 140 casualties. Pretty depressing night for my "language cousins". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourdough Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The police claim 150+ dead at the minute. Fuck me, this is unbelievable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Doesn't France have super strict gun laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewalk Surfboard Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 This is just so depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Doesn't France have super strict gun lawsI mentioned it earlier but apparently France has a huge gun smuggling problem making it relatively easy for them to get what they need assuming they have the appropriate connections which apparently, they did.Also to the shock of no one, they are pretty much confirmed Muslim extremists. Edited November 14, 2015 by PastryOfApathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewalk Surfboard Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I honestly feel bad for the peaceful Muslims. The extremists taint their name too much. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Why ban guns if they're just going to be smuggled in anyways? And by criminals, no less...I know that opens up another can of worms and uses a tragic event as "told you so" fodder, but I really have no political side tbh, I just think this whole thing really sucks and would want to know the best preventative measures Edited November 14, 2015 by WolfNightV4X1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Why ban guns if they're just going to be smuggled in anyways? And by criminals, no less...I know that opens up another can of worms and uses a tragic event as "told you so" fodder, but I really have no political side tbh, I just think this whole thing really sucks and would want to know the best preventative measuresThe less people with guns, the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGravitas Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 This is indeed terrible; my best wishes to the people of France. They've suffered enough as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GemWolf Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 US President Barack Obama spoke of "an outrageous attempt to terrorise innocent civilians".attempt???? No sorry Obama, they succeed in terrorising innocent civilians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The less people with guns, the better.This does not work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 US President Barack Obama spoke of "an outrageous attempt to terrorise innocent civilians".attempt???? No sorry Obama, they succeed in terrorising innocent civilians! Making a statement that basically amounts to "the terrorists won gg" doesn't exactly inspire confidence.This does not workpls no 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 This does not workI would rather not get into a discussion about gun control, given that they never end well, but I will say that things have been going quite well here in Australia since gun control was introduced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourdough Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Apparently there are fires at the refugee camps at Calais (for those who don't know, Calais is where the Channel Tunnel connects France to England, as well as a major ferry port). The news is going back and forth over whether the fires are actually happening or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GemWolf Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Making a statement that basically amounts to "the terrorists won gg" doesn't exactly inspire confidence.That is not how I meant it and you know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 I can't wait for the terrorist apologists to come out on Tumblr and other stupid social platforms in the coming days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The less people with guns, the better. I disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourdough Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 In defence of strict gun laws, the USA is pretty liberal about the whole thing and 9/11 still happened. That's hardly the point though. The point is fuck radical Islamists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolflich Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I guess now being a hostage in a situation like this is becoming like in a hijacking... might as well just rush them since if you cooperate you still die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I would rather not get into a discussion"Lets not talk about difficult things and just cry about shit instead of being proactive" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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