Käpt'n Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yep. This is also hinted at by one of the Froggit NPCs you can encounter along the way.Hidden ContentThat's the Froggit that explains the yellow names and that sometimes you can spare enemies who don't have a yellow name. So there are Undertale let's plays popping up all over the place now. But I noticed a trend! They are incredibly boring when the player doesn't know what they are doing and lock themselves in on the neutral route by killing randomly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrishaCat Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Well fuck me. Welp, looks like we're restarting boys.If only resolving your sins were that simple....Well, it works. You can do a successful pacifist run that way, although the game will laugh at you.Oh I was talking about the fight withHidden ContentOh okay. A lot of people do this. You just have tokeep sparing her. Her dialogue will change every time you spare her and eventually you'll see results Edited October 4, 2015 by Battlechili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 If only resolving your sins were that simple....Well, it works. You can do a successful pacifist run that way, althoughHidden ContentYeah I caught that. Stupid-ass flower, ain't my fault I didn't 100% get how that shit worked until later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Double post because fuck you I'm special.Just marathoned the entire game over again and didn't kill a single fucking thing. And apparently according to douche-flower, I got denied the "true ending" because I skipped a lot of the shit with Papyrus on my re-playthrough that I had already seen and didn't figure it would matter since everyone just said don't kill anyone. I'm salty but thankfully god invented Youtube so I'm gonna go pretend everything's fine and go watch that and probably feel bad.Oh and that last fight with Mettatron was horseshit. Seriously only having 1 health potion for the king was fucking awful.Also "Execution Points" are the stupidest, most hamfisted 2deep4u indie shit I've seen.0/10 This game is literally worse than Hitler. Edited October 4, 2015 by PastryOfApathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Well fuck me. Welp, looks like we're restarting boys. There's one boss you have to "beat" by fleeing, but it's difficult to know when to do that. Took me a number of tries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hidden ContentYeah it took me about 5 "...'s" to start booking it. Fucking fish lady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrishaCat Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Double post because fuck you I'm special.Just marathoned the entire game over again and didn't kill a single fucking thing. Hidden ContentYou can actually still get the complete ending without much trouble. All you have to do is backtrack to Papyrus's house next to Napstablook's. Take care of that, do what the game tells you, and then go back to Asgore and everything will go a lot differently. It doesn't take resetting the game or anything to get, and shouldn't take you more than another hour or so. The game also puts a lot of shortcuts up to make backtracking easier. Its worth it. There's a shit ton of story stuff you're missing currently, and a Youtube video doesn't really capture the feel of it. By the way, why didn't you just go back and buy some more health items? There are elevators for that. Also, its actually a good thing you did this because once you complete all the perfect ending requirements the game doesn't let you fight Asgore and skips ahead instead. Edited October 4, 2015 by Battlechili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Double post because fuck you I'm special.Just marathoned the entire game over again and didn't kill a single fucking thing. Hidden ContentFighting Asgore was a complete pain in the cock. I had to backtrack multiple times to get the worn dagger, and another time later to get some Cinnabuns.I wish to put my wee-wee into the shop lady at snowdin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vae Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Double post because fuck you I'm special.Just marathoned the entire game over again and didn't kill a single fucking thing. Hidden ContentCan't you still get true ending...from no-friends paci run, if you just continue on after completion, do your friendship dates, and complete True Lab, though?I've seen speedrunners use that tech, and it saves you from rerunning the entire game. Edited October 4, 2015 by Vae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Can't you still get true ending...Hidden ContentI've seen speedrunners use that tech, and it saves you from rerunning the entire game. I think as long as you didn't go full genocide and get a genocide ending you can still try for the true ending. When I did the game it gave me a neutral ending even though I went full pacifist and didn't get a single EXP. Didn't even kill Toriel. I had to fight Giga-Flowey and also didn't kill him. There's a number of variations of the neutral ending and you HAVE to get one before you can get the true ending. I went for a true ending by continuing rather than resetting, and I did e.g. the cooking with Undyne, the letter, and the lab as if it were a post-game and got the true end. I want to try for the genocide ending but apparently it intentionally fucks up your save so you're stuck with not being able to get the true ending at all unless you delete the file or whatever. Also I'm too attached to the characters now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vae Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I think as long as Hidden Content Hidden Content You can actually still get the "true ending"... after completing a geno run. But, as far as I understand it, some characters make comments about it. Flowey, for certain, and I think Sans does too? The biggest difference is what it does to the ending sequence. Both true ending sequences (sleeping in Toriel's house / the picture you get) involve the Fallen Child.Since you sold your soul to them to get the game back in geno ending.So it implies they're still alive in Frisk, and they're going to kill everyone. Even if it doesn't directly show that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 You can actually still get the "true ending"...Hidden ContentI'll have to give it a shot then, but I kinda wanna see what else I can do/find without having done a geno run first.The biggest difference is what it does to the ending sequence. Hidden ContentI think I saw that on youtube after I did my pacifist run.where the kid has flowey's smile after Toriel leaves a butterscotch pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrishaCat Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Can't you still get true ending...Hidden ContentI've seen speedrunners use that tech, and it saves you from rerunning the entire game. Yes. That's what I did. I didn't make friends with some of them and just went back after beating the game to do what I missed. I didn't have to start over or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuujou Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 My friend gifted me this game last night. Can't say I'm hooked, but the patterns are fun to dodge mostly. I appreciate that they mix and match them depending on the enemy combinations you encounter. Makes prioritizing your "attacks" more of an ingrained feature in "combat". Especially if there's a specific method to sparing enemies (if you're about that life). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'll have to give it a shot then, but I kinda wanna see what else I can do/find without having done a geno run first.I think I saw that on youtube after I did my pacifist run. Hidden ContentThat's not Flowey's smile. The flashing red eyes show that the first fallen human still owns you. (If you choose not to stay with Toriel you will see a group photo with all your friend's faces crossed out, reminding you that you killed them on the genocide route.)The first human that Asriel befriended is pretty much a demon. Pure evil that wrecks timelines. He fell into the mountain and befriended Asriel. He then planned to commit suicide so Asriel can absorb his soul and cross the barrier. But he also wanted to take over Asriel's body so he could use that power for himself. He probably planned to enter the Underground to begin with so he could fuse with a monster and become more powerful.When they cross the barrier they get themselves killed, go back to Asgore's castle and die. They bring the seeds for the golden flowers with them. The first of these flowers got their ash on it, that flower later gets injected with "determination" and turns into Flowey, who is a soulless reborn Asriel with all his memories but no compassion or emotions.But the first human comes back when you say his name, as in when you type in their name when you start the game! He attatches himself to Frisk.On a pacifist run nothing really happens with the first human. Since you don't kill anyone your level of violence won't increase so the demon seems to stay dormant.But on a genocide run he becomes stronger as Frisk's level of violence increases. This goes so far that he starts to control Frisk (killing bosses in one blow, moving Frisk when you don't make him move). And at the very end he becomes strong enough to fully manifest again. Stronger than Frisk even! Strong enough to either wipe out the whole timeline or to annihilate Frisk if you choose not to destroy the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggdodger Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) So, I've been interested in the game for a few weeks, but watching the tutorial episode on Game Grumps officially hooked me. Haven't spoiled the game at all for myself, and I'm actually interested in trying the genocide route first (much as I feel bad about that idea) because the attitude people have towards that story route very much intrigues me. If it gets too feelsy and I cry, I'll start over and do pacifism.I doubt it will take long Edited October 4, 2015 by Eggdodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 watching the tutorial episodey-you could have just played the free demo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggdodger Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 y-you could have just played the free demoSometimes I forget Steam games have demosI usually just buy them on impulse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Sometimes I forget Steam games have demosI usually just buy them on impulsethe demo isnt on steam i thinkthe official website has it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggdodger Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 the demo isnt on steam i thinkthe official website has it thoughYesyes, found it!Thanks <3 Although I'm pretty sure that I'll like this game (and the steam refund system essentially gives you a <2 hour demo anyways)Has a very MOTHER 1 feel to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 y-you could have just played the free demoSometimes I forget Steam games have demosI usually just buy them on impulsethe demo isnt on steam i thinkthe official website has it thoughTo be fair, it's pretty easy to miss that it has a demo. I think anyone making a video of it, at least of the start of the game, should mention it so people don't spoil the game for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggdodger Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 To be fair, it's pretty easy to miss that it has a demo. I think anyone making a video of it, at least of the start of the game, should mention it so people don't spoil the game for themselves.Oh yeah, I hate spoilers. I only watched the first episode since they said the developer told them, "Tell people if they like the game, feel free to stop watching and try it for yourself!" I plan on doing that sometime this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaerun Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Passive run with the two royal guards... d'awwwwwwwwwwAlso I just love the way different enemy attacks work and the inventiveness of the boss fights (particularly Muffet, even if she is a huge pain in the ass) Edit: During Mettaton's colour puzzle, try not stepping on any tiles except the first one Edited October 5, 2015 by Xaerun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I appear to be having dog problems... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I was just thinking...Papyrus thinks he is the greatest, in truth he is the biggest idiot you come across in the game and he has no issues with using physical force to achieve his goals, even when he wants to get on a date with that person. At the same time he is completely harmless and pretty much a pushover.Papyrus is Chris-Chan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vae Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I was just thinking...Papyrus thinks he is the greatest, in truth he is the biggest idiot you come across in the game and he has no issues with using physical force to achieve his goals, even when he wants to get on a date with that person. At the same time he is completely harmless and pretty much a pushover.Hidden ContentHow dare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 How dare.I'm just pulling your funnybone ;3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) https://youtu.be/dY5A3jfO0Pg Edited October 6, 2015 by Käpt'n How do you even Youtube on this forum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaerun Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2jVbSI9H4oConfirmed for best song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrishaCat Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2jVbSI9H4oConfirmed for best songThat's not Spider Dance. And I think it was done better in Homestuck.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1p0bLkNGa0 Edited October 7, 2015 by Battlechili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaerun Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 That's not Spider Dance.Spider Dance is good mostly because it's attached to a great fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Toriel theme Best themeI don't care what you have to say about it xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 It's tough for me to choose a favourite track. Almost all of them are amazing! Toby really knows how to put together a great soundtrack :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vae Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 [Undying], [Core], and [Another Medium] master trifecta.With honorable mention to Megalovania, Your Best Nightmare, and and Asgore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) I know I'm using a lot of spoilers but████████████████████████████████████████████████████████░░░░░███████░░░░░███████████████████████░░███░░░░░░██░░░░░░██░░███████████████████░░░░░████████████████░░░░█████████████████░░░░░█████████████████░░░░░█████████████████░░██████░░░░░░░░░██████░░███████████████████████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░██████████████████░░░░█████░░░░███░░░███░░░░█████░░░░███████░░░░░░███░░░░█████░█████░░░░███░░░░░░█████░░░░░░░██░░░░███░██░██░███░░░░██░░░░░░░███░░░███████░░░░█████░░░█████░░░░███████░░░██░░░░░░░███░░█░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░░███░░░░░░░██░░░░░░░░██░░█████░░░░░░░░████░░██░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░██░░░░░██░░░░░░░██░░░░░██░░░░░░███████░░░░░███░░░░░███░██░██░░░░░███░░░░░█████████░░░░░██░░░░░░█░████░█░░░░░██░░░░░██████████████████░░░░░░░░██░░░░░░░███████████████████████░███░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░███░██████████████████░░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░███████████████░░░░██████░░░░░░░░░██████░░░░█████████████░░░░█░░█████████████████░░█░░░░████████████░░░█░░░░░░███████████░░░░░░█░░░████████████░░░█░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░████████████░░░░░░░░░░░░███████░░░░░░░░░░░░██████████████░░░░░░███████████████░░░░░░███████████████████████████████████████████████████V E RY C L EV E R Edited October 7, 2015 by ChaosCalix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I've made up my mind. This is by far the best track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I watched an whole lp of the game and everything and its very cool and interresting.Because you dont need to kill. Also i cried because of the game because it has so many feels and sad moments.The soundtracks of the game are just epic.Sadly my laptop doesnt work and i cant play it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutekh_the_Steak Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Got this game a few days ago. Great so far, especially the music. The music is fucking great. :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedal Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Decided to pick it up today. This game seems to switch between being dark and emotional, and making me laugh because of the outrageous characters. It's fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Decided to pick it up today. This game seems to switch between being dark and emotional, and making me laugh because of the outrageous characters. It's fantastic.Be sure to earn as much LOVE as possible. It's the only way to get the best ending.Also since we've officially reached meme game status, here's some of the freshest and dankest memes. No spoilers I swear. :^) fo real do' Edited October 12, 2015 by PastryOfApathy Now this is meme racing! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Käpt'n Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yeah the game became popular pretty much instantly. Toby must be rolling in cash now! :V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I want goatmom to hold my hand. o///o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Really, I find this was the best theme of the game - the boss battle wasn't as good, but that's because I suck at bullethells.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1vuQV9DyYw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I want goatmom to hold my hand. o///oBan this sick filth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) I'm already getting tired of this game because all I've seen about it is arguing about the characters. will someone please tell me in laymans terms what the hell this game is about Edited October 15, 2015 by Gamedog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I'm already getting tired of this game because all I've seen about it is arguing about the characters. will someone please tell me in laymans terms what the hell this game is aboutBasically it's an RPG with an emphasis on puzzles where you're a kid who falls into a world of monsters which have been sealed underground because people are dicks. At first it seems kinda cliche, but then shit gets fuckin' weird, fourth wall breaking, and extremely mind-fucky. The main distinguishing mechanics are the "mercy" system where the game encourages you to not kill enemies and instead find peaceful means of ending fights, turning each fight into a kind of puzzle where you find out what you need to do to spare them (an early example is a monster who you can find out is an aspiring comedian, and when he makes a bad pun before attacking you have the option to laugh at his joke allowing you to "win" the fight). The other one is the way monsters attack where you control a heart (your soul) and have to avoid projectiles similar to a bullet hell game like Touhou or something to avoid taking damage.It's one of those games that's extremely hard to describe without spoiling everything since it really does get fucking weird and experiencing these things blind is part of the experience. All I can say is it's quickly become one of my favorite games of all time, the characters are all amazing and fucking hilarious, the story is truly remarkable and feelsy, the music is god-tier and most importantly, you get to date a skeleton. Play it quick before the horrible memers and fandom people take complete control. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosCalix Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Play it quick before the horrible memers and fandom people take complete control.You mean to say they haven't already? Huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolow Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Spoiler possibly, But Awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedog Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 You mean to say they haven't already? Huhthey arei Saw actual fights over which characters werw asexual and autistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 they arei Saw actual fights over which characters werw asexual and autisticTumblrites aren't people. They're simply people who've transcended the mere mortal realms of memery to a higher plane of memeing.where the terms "omnisexual" and "zer" are used unironically.Seriously why do skeletons have like glowy dicks all of a sudden? Where the fuck did that even come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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