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Sultz Z. Wolf
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My friend Island and I are looking for an artist that can draw a pic of the kid versions of our fursonas in a public restroom peeing in the urinals, there will be no mature parts of our fursonas being shown.  The budget for this pic is $60 and I will send you all of the detalis of the pic as soon as you accept the commission.

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No, but seriously, what goes through someone's mind when they decide to come on to some random forum,
to ask, as a 37-year-old man,
for a commission of children peeing?

Exactly how long would it take the police to haul you off if they glanced into your computer files?
I'm guessing five minutes.

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This is unacceptable behavior in the commission thread. There are a lot of fetish requests in the black market, the old forum has always been a 'don't like it then look away' sort of community, please do not spam and harass a commissioner. These posts are not acceptable here, please understand only commission requests and commission ads are really expected in these threads, not this hurtful spam.

 

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22 minutes ago, marbledaydreams said:

This is unacceptable behavior in the commission thread. There are a lot of fetish requests in the black market, the old forum has always been a 'don't like it then look away' sort of community, please do not spam and harass a commissioner. These posts are not acceptable here, please understand only commission requests and commission ads are really expected in these threads, not this hurtful spam.

 

Marble...

1. No one here's going to do his request.

2. A 37 (maybe slightly older) man asking for art of 2 kids peeing. We can go on about the fetishes and fetish shaming all day but you don't just make a thread like this and expect not to raise some eyebrows.

3. Lookit 1 and 2 again.

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7 minutes ago, DevilishlyHandsome49 said:

2. A 37 (maybe slightly older) man asking for art of 2 kids peeing. We can go on about the fetishes and fetish shaming all day but you don't just make a thread like this and expect not to raise some eyebrows.

Probably not the case here, but such a request wouldn't always be a sexual thing. Unless you consider Akira Toriyama to be a pedo for drawing kid Goku's dick in every episode of Dragonball.

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33 minutes ago, marbledaydreams said:

the old forum has always been a 'don't like it then look away' sort of community

The fuck kind of FAF did you go to?

The forum was well known for tearing undesirable threads (and occasionally people) the hell apart.

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3 minutes ago, Barnectomy said:

Probably not the case here, but such a request wouldn't always be a sexual thing. Unless you consider Akira Toriyama to be a pedo for drawing kid Goku's dick in every episode of Dragonball.

...are you serious? You think I can't tell the difference between nudity for narrative of a show vs. blantant fetish art?

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3 minutes ago, Sultz Z. Wolf said:

For God's sake everybody the privates will not be shown, both Sultz and Island will be seen using the urinals like this: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5053096/

So please for the love of God stop posting baseless replies to this thread.

You could just ask for a commission with the characters as adults?

Users here have detected an obvious sexual subtext to the requested commission, even if genitals are not visible, so I think you can understand why it is making everybody uncomfortable, Sultz.

 

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6 minutes ago, Sultz Z. Wolf said:

For God's sake everybody the privates will not be shown, both Sultz and Island will be seen using the urinals like this: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5053096/

So please for the love of God stop posting baseless replies to this thread.

Nothing sexual here.

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Nope.
Nothing creepy about that.
Nothing completely inappropriate for a 37-year-old to be requesting involving children.
Not at all.
Nope.



What the fuck is this thread even.

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well this thread played out pretty much how I thought it would. it's not the worst commission thread I've seen though but um, yeah..it's pretty bad not gonna lie.

I am curious as to what these other details are though

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3 hours ago, marbledaydreams said:

This is unacceptable behavior in the commission thread. There are a lot of fetish requests in the black market, the old forum has always been a 'don't like it then look away' sort of community, please do not spam and harass a commissioner. These posts are not acceptable here, please understand only commission requests and commission ads are really expected in these threads, not this hurtful spam.

 

GTFO with that weak ass wannabe mod shit. The only unacceptable thing in this thread is the fucking OP. Even if FAF was like that (which it wasnt) that doesnt mean that accepting borderline pedophilia should be fucking acceptable. I'd take hurting someones fweelings over enabling to look at kiddy dicks.

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6 minutes ago, Harbinger said:

GTFO with that weak ass wannabe mod shit. The only unacceptable thing in this thread is the fucking OP. Even if FAF was like that (which it wasnt) that doesnt mean that accepting borderline pedophilia should be fucking acceptable. I'd take hurting someones fweelings over enabling to look at kiddy dicks.

How dare you call me an unacceptable thing you dumbass.  I try to make this commission that as kids/cubs as less mature as possible and if you do like what you see then don't post any replies, simple as that, so watch who you are calling an unacceptable you f-bombing piece of filth.

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12 minutes ago, Sultz Z. Wolf said:

 I try to make this commission that as kids/cubs as less mature as possible 

Try not fetishizing children, and then it will no longer be mature.

Just now, Sultz Z. Wolf said:

Inkbunny doesn't have a commission board so this is the only board where I can post such a commission request.

Lol try weasyl or e621 or whatever. Or like, u18chan idk.

 

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I don't think Weasyl allows those kinds of requests either, or at least they don't really tolerate them

Just now, Sultz Z. Wolf said:

Inkbunny doesn't have a commission board so this is the only board where I can post such a commission request.

then try SoFurry. I'm trying to help you partly because I'm too tired to be mean (and because it's not that bad) and because I know you're definitely not going to get your request filled here. you lost most everyone by mentioning kids pissing which is a pretty big red flag.

 

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Children pissing isn't mature?
Okay.
I mean, I'm sure if you had video or photographic depictions of that, with real children, it would get your ass hauled to jail pretty damn quick for sexual exploitation of minors.
But it's "not mature."
Sure.
Okay.

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This thread in particular has raised up a couple of issues related to how commission work is handled on here.

Upon looking at the rules for the black market in response to this thread, I've noticed that there isn't anything within them that can specify what can and cannot be posted as a theme for an art piece. Only that real life minors shouldn't advertise for drawing porn, respond to adult commissions and that buyers should be careful when getting into contracts with them. This is perfectly understandable for liabilities. However, looking through it all - its pretty clear there into how the new forums should really handle buyers and sellers. If it's still in the works, that is understandable, I don't expect everything to be looked over in one weekend. But it should still be getting done.

If Phoenixed Forums does wish to continue to reference to FA in all of its rules, don't have a straight up copy and paste and treat it as if they wrote it. You're supposed to be a new independent forum? Why not try breaking apart the FA/F relationship circumference and make a we-write that would better suit the culture of the forum you are wanting yourselves to be instead of what you once were. That would be refreshing. There is nothing wrong with using it as a base for revision and there is nothing wrong with denying kinks and themes for buying and selling at all. On top of this, if you do wish to reference the mainsite, put a fucking link in so users can read for themselves. You can't tell users to read a site policy that isn't accessible on a site not even affiliated with themselves anymore.

Back to the thread in hand, the majority of posts within this thread just seem to be nothing to do with the OPs commission, instead it seems to be a mix of reactions because its a fetish they don't like, responses so childish that they could feature in cub art by accident and just the disappointing derailment that this forum has made itself known for. Its among the reasons I lurk less.

In closing, I don't feel there is anything wrong with requesting babyfur content on Phoenix, or watersports. It's not my interests and I would rather not see it like the rest of them - but I can see many forum users would. However, the disgusting attitude you've took to other people trying to give you a legitimate response in the past and now, I do wish for filtering of such tripe.

As for this thread, the majority of the blame to what has happened is towards @Sultz Z. Wolf, he could have even gotten this piece drawn if he didn't constantly give the shitposters ammunition to justify taking the piss out of him. If he didn't act awkward and try to justify it's not a fetish, it would not have started as a thread full of kink-shaming, image-only responses and salt. You don't have to own it, but you do have to understand the social implications of said fetish. To give you some advice for future requests and to any one else you encounter in your lifetime, don't be obsessed over what gives you a rager or you are going to be a complete creep to everyone you meet both inside and outside of this fandom - or actually known as another "the bee sting guy".

Your choice.


 

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4 minutes ago, Sultz Z. Wolf said:

Look everybody if I offended anybody on this board then i'm sorry, I do offer my heart felt apology.  The main purpose of this pic was never about looking at children peeing, it was how two cubs became friends in a restroom.  I never intended and I never will attend to offend anybody.

I can totally forgive you if that was your real intentions, you just need to take a bit of time to think how an internet forum would take to such a request. It's not the end of the world. It just could have been handled a little better. :3

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38 minutes ago, Sultz Z. Wolf said:

How dare you call me an unacceptable thing you dumbass.  I try to make this commission that as kids/cubs as less mature as possible and if you do like what you see then don't post any replies, simple as that, so watch who you are calling an unacceptable you f-bombing piece of filth.

Get mad kiddy fiddler. And lol calling me a piece of filth, thats rich from someone who gets their rocks off to people taking a shit and kids pissing.

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Just now, Sar said:

I can totally forgive you if that was your real intentions, you just need to take a bit of time to think how an internet forum would take to such a request. It's not the end of the world. It just could have been handled a little better. :3

I 100% agree with you, I apologize to everybody on this board and to the entire fandom.  If this seem to be offending to everybody, I will no longer request for commissions of any more minors using the restroom ever again.  I really hope this clears my name to everybody in the fandom, I wish I had never came up with the idea for this pic.  And now I think that this thread needs to be deleted.

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I am going to close the thread, but I will ask you (and all commissioners in the future) to ask themselves "Is this okay to post the details" before you find an artist. Due to recent events in the furry fandom, as a whole, not just FA/FAF,  certain things will be treated as a knee-jerk reaction regardless if it is benign or not. A word of caution can be considered regarding controversial fetishes such as cub that's going to be set as Mature on FA or Weasyl. 

The rest of you, I am not going to say much except shake my head.  Slightly...

 

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