Crazy Lee Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/13/politics/supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-dies-at-79/index.html I should be making this a rave. Yea, I'm kinda happy someone is dead? Well, this guy was the most mainstream conservative and religious of the SCOTUS judges. And they're appointed to life on the bench, unless they step down. If one of the only ways to get this guy from making more decisions for our government is this way... well... I'm not going to miss him at least. In any case, the more important issue is that this opens up a spot on the bench. And Obama is still president. A conservative talk program I listen to has noted that one the most important things for them is to have a Conservative in the white house so more conservatives will be on the bench. So Obama needs to get his ass in gear and elect a more liberal or moderate person to replace him, like NOW. I don't care what Congress has to say on this, 'Bama just needs to tell them to fuck off and nominate one anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Exciting! I really hope in the next few presidential terms we can get people to vote for terms for house of reps/supreme court. It sucks we have 90 year old men with values literally from decades ago making decisions today. Condolences to the family affected, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagged Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 58 minutes ago, Saxon said: I still feel bad about someone dying. There is this old saying/showerthought that says "Every person sees the world in a unique way. When someone dies it is, in a way, the death of an entire world." Hence why it's sad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfish Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I can't be all "WOOHOO A GUY DIED" and celebrate him dying, that'd be a little fucked up, buuuuut... It doesn't stop me from saying how much of a douche he was when he was alive and that I hope his replacement is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derin Darkpaw Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Already we are hearing Republicans saying that they will accept no candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. Its almost needless to say, but it is going to be really fascinating to see how this turns out. Here is hoping for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerig Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 5 hours ago, Crazy Lee said: I don't care what Congress has to say on this, 'Bama just needs to tell them to fuck off and nominate one anyway. pls just stop being alive 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 That sucks. I mean I obviously don't agree with him politically on just about everything and I still think it's pretty bullshit that Supreme Court judges are effectively set-in-stone for life, but I'm not gonna run around screaming "hallelujah" because someone I didn't ever really know died. That said when the great Trumpening comes around and Donald Trump comes to take back America atop his noble steed, we won't need a "Supreme Court". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 A person is dead and this is sad news for family and friends who are close to him. However, he's a hysterical jagoff and we'll be fine without him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarthTheWereWolf Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 4 hours ago, Lemon said: Exciting! I really hope in the next few presidential terms we can get people to vote for terms for house of reps/supreme court. It sucks we have 90 year old men with values literally from decades ago making decisions today. Second this. Supreme court members being elected for life always struck me as the dumbest thing ever. If they were voted in by the general population it wouldn't be -as- bad. Since at least we chose them by majority vote... but the current system is just a load of bull. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraphayx Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I hope Obama replaces him with the first furry justice. Me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Did It For The Cat Girls Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) What could be gained from Obama supporting a moderate or liberal presidential aspirant as his hopeful replacement? Every budding politician that sips from the venom-laced crack cup that is the US government inevitably turns into a corporate shill anyway. Quote I don't care what Congress has to say on this, 'Bama just needs to tell them to fuck off and nominate one anyway. lol Edited February 14, 2016 by I Did It For The Cat Girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clove Darkwave Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I'm also of the opinion we need to stop appointing SCOTUS spots for life, that's absurd. It should be a tenure of no more than 7-10 years. That being said it's not hard to imagine what will fill the spot given that social change operates in a four-quarter cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 minute ago, I Did It For The Cat Girls said: What could be gained from Obama supporting a moderate or liberal presidential aspirant as his hopeful replacement? Every budding politician that sips from the venom-laced crack cup that is the US government inevitably turns into a corporate shill anyway. Well it's generally a wise idea to back someone whose campaign isn't riding on the idea of repealing the signature policy that for all practical intents and purposes bears your name (The Affordable Care Act AKA "Obamacare") you spent like 4-years of your tenure fighting to make law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rukh Whitefang Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Quick question, did anyone ever read the writings of Scalia or listen to him during proceedings? The man was very articulate, had well thought out responses. Even if you disagreed with him, his points he made were sound. And he was good friends with retired Justice Ginsburg. He recommended Justice Kagan (and she leans liberal) in an interview as someone who would be a good judge. President Obama will not be able to get anyone but a moderate (I use that term loosely) on the bench. The Republican party (and some Democrats who are in tight races) and not going to approve someone who thinks the Constitution can be re-interpenetrated or re-written. If however the President doesn't nominate someone that gives the voters a better voice (maybe?) since the Senate is up for reelection this year too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I find it gross that so many people are cheering that someone died. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 22 minutes ago, #00Buck said: I find it gross that so many people are cheering that someone died. B-but I personally disagree with him meaning he's like totally the worst person to ever live and as such deserves to burn in hell. I'm also retarded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassah Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I'm glad he's dead. Both cause as an anarchist In glad to see people who decide how to control our lives die, and because I'm glad that a majorly religious and conservative nutcase isn't making those control decisions too. By the way, I would like to remind everyone that, aside from the ones Obama nominated, all our left leaning justices have been nominated by Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraphayx Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Rassah said: I'm glad he's dead. Both cause as an anarchist In glad to see people who decide how to control our lives die, and because I'm glad that a majorly religious and conservative nutcase isn't making those control decisions too. By the way, I would like to remind everyone that, aside from the ones Obama nominated, all our left leaning justices have been nominated by Republicans. Edited February 16, 2016 by Zaraphayx My meme was too small :^( 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 4 hours ago, #00Buck said: I find it gross that so many people are cheering that someone died. Do you really, fishy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, Luka said: Do you really, fishy? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinharia Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Non Amurrikan here. Hopefully someone intelligent takes the spot above all else, someone who can actually do the job. It is one thing appointing someone who is idealogically the same to you, it's another to appoint a competent person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 9 hours ago, #00Buck said: Yup. You've been strangely tame recently ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalletFace Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 23 hours ago, Rukh Whitefang said: Quick question, did anyone ever read the writings of Scalia or listen to him during proceedings? The man was very articulate, had well thought out responses. Even if you disagreed with him, his points he made were sound. Personally, he was a polite and amicable man, but his opinions where not always of proper thought. Many of his dissenting opinions tended to cite only other dissenting opinions of his, and only cited those in the majority when he was in that majority himself. Application of law and precedent did not matter to the man as much as making it clear that "the function of this Court is to preserve our society's values... not to revise them" (United States v. Virginia 1996). Good riddance, as pretty much the only way we could get rid of this patrician, unelected, egotistical, unrepresentative, partisan lawyer him was for him to retire or die. I really don't want those judges to be elected, though, so I'll pretend I didn't insult him with his own criticisms of that body. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 11 hours ago, Luka said: You've been strangely tame recently ~ Behind his trollish scaly exterier fishy is just a bunch of soft fishy flesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexInsane Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) On 2/13/2016 at 5:01 PM, Saxon said: I still feel bad about someone dying. Do you feel bad about killing flies who shit on your food? Never am I happier when an obstacle to progress is removed. Edited February 17, 2016 by AlexInsane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 38 minutes ago, AlexInsane said: Do you feel bad about killing flies who shit on your food? Never am I happier when an obstacle to progress is removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexInsane Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, PastryOfApathy said: u wat m8? I'll hook u in the gabber, i sware on me mum Edited February 17, 2016 by AlexInsane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 19 minutes ago, AlexInsane said: u wat m8? I'll hook u in the gabber, i sware on me mum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexInsane Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Anyway, not intending to be edgy. He was a shitbag, like a lot of Republicans. And now he's dead. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 14 hours ago, Luka said: You've been strangely tame recently ~ I've been working out of town so I'm not on the forum as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Lee Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) As I predicted, even before Obama said anything about the death, the Senate has already said they will not allow Obama to nominate ANYONE to the bench, because when Obama selects someone, the Senate has to confirm it. Republicans claim it's because they want to let the public decide, which is a giant steaming pile of bullshit. The reason WHY the GOP doesn't want Obama to nominate anyone is because he'll nominate someone liberal... and because the GOP thinks that Obama's this evil Muslim socialist communist devil who may or may not be the antichrist himself. It's sad how partisan politics have become that if you disagree with a man you vilify the person, not his policies. In a conservative radio show I listen to, they have said in the past that it's important to get a conservative to the white house because of what Andrew Breitbart said on their show, that because it was likely several justices would either retire or die soon, they needed a conservative to nominate conservatives to the bench because if liberals were the majority on the bench, they would vote away the second amendment all together. Ted Cruz thinks the same way. Really? You would think that liberals would really just get rid of the second amendment, hand out abortions left and right, ban Christianity for good? These people are THAT paranoid? It's what I keep on saying, Conservatives today are paranoid, scared little shits that are afraid of everything. But this does explain the thinking of the GOP and the right. The conservatives are waiting and hoping that a conservative is elected president before they will nominate a judge because that will assure that they will get a conservative judge like Scalia. Also, about his death, I'm not throwing a party and screaming happy in the streets over his death. I'm just glad he's off the bench, as I seriously disagreed with just about every decision he made, especially on things like the gay marriage ruling. I could care less about his death. He's dead? Good. Oh well. People die every day. It's life. His family will have to deal with sadness, which sucks. But life is that people die. I've gotten to the point where I'm so misanthropic and cynical that I honestly WISH all the people screwing up the planet would die. They're doing nothing but making the world a worse place, so they have no place existing on the planet. I have no power to remove them from the planet or decide their fate, but if they're dead, so be it. On 2/14/2016 at 7:56 PM, Zerig said: pls just stop being alive Awww did I hurt your widdle feelings? Were you triggered? I can't tell what you don't like about me so I'll just figure that you're a conservative and probably an idiot and leave it at that. On 2/14/2016 at 9:38 PM, 6tails said: He died during a hunting trip. Wait, was Dick Cheney on this hunting trip? Are we sure it was a natural death? Did they find buckshot in him? On 2/16/2016 at 11:10 PM, Rassah said: I'm glad he's dead. Both cause as an anarchist In glad to see people who decide how to control our lives die, and because I'm glad that a majorly religious and conservative nutcase isn't making those control decisions too. By the way, I would like to remind everyone that, aside from the ones Obama nominated, all our left leaning justices have been nominated by Republicans. An anarchist libertarian.... love to talk about that but don't want to derail the thread. I WILL remind you that this is the real world, not Fallout 4, and real world rules apply. Also, on that second sentence: Scalia & Kennedy -- Nominated by Reagan. Thomas -- George H. W. Bush. Ginsberg and Breyer -- Clinton. Roberts & Alito -- Bush Jr. Sotomayor & Kagan -- Obama. On 2/15/2016 at 6:12 PM, Rukh Whitefang said: with retired Justice Ginsburg. Ruth Ginsberg is still on the bench. Edited February 17, 2016 by Crazy Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 >Republicans not wanting a Democrat president to elect a new Supreme Court Justice while it's possible a Republican one may take over soon Wow those assholes! How dare they!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcstinks Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Crazy Lee said: Awww did I hurt your widdle feelings? Were you triggered? I can't tell what you don't like about me so I'll just figure that you're a conservative andbly an idiot and leave it at that. Remind me, what's the quickest way to unlike a post? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZorroValdez Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Is it tinfoil hat time? :v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, jcstinks said: Remind me, what's the quickest way to unlike a post? Why would you unlike such riveting political commentary? Edited February 17, 2016 by PastryOfApathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I really don't know why people are so surprised at the death. He was 79. That's a year from 80. Pretty old, America. In fact, one of the big things about this election is that a lot of the current Justices are uber old and will have seats up for grabs. Guess this just drives that point home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazooie Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 On 2/13/2016 at 5:41 PM, Crazy Lee said: A conservative talk program I listen to you probably shouldn't be doing that to yourself; basking in indignant offense is a dark road to tread go join greenpeace and harass whalers instead or something 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalletFace Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 This issue is going to be important, but we will likely see several years before we feel the impact. I'll wait patiently until then. 16 hours ago, Crazy Lee said: Andrew Breitbart said... they needed a conservative to nominate conservatives to the bench because if liberals were the majority on the bench, they would vote away the second amendment all together. Ted Cruz thinks the same way. Really? You would think that liberals would really just get rid of the second amendment, hand out abortions left and right, ban Christianity for good? These people are THAT paranoid? I'm surprised at how many people I know fear that guns will be banned but feel no irony or shame in demanding that entire religions, sexual orientations, or actions be banned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Lee Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 12 hours ago, kazooie said: you probably shouldn't be doing that to yourself; basking in indignant offense is a dark road to tread go join greenpeace and harass whalers instead or something I'm a glutton for punishment apparently. 16 hours ago, Butters said: In fact, one of the big things about this election is that a lot of the current Justices are uber old and will have seats up for grabs. Guess this just drives that point home. Imagine if Ginsberg or some of the others retire or die in the next 5 years. And imagine if Trump, or even worse Cruz, is president. If Scalia is replaced by another conservative justice it will just maintain the status quo. If the court is filled with conservatives..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlynnCoyote Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 God still has to do better than this to make up for taking Bowie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 9 hours ago, Crazy Lee said: I'm a glutton for punishment apparently. Imagine if Ginsberg or some of the others retire or die in the next 5 years. And imagine if Trump, or even worse Cruz, is president. If Scalia is replaced by another conservative justice it will just maintain the status quo. If the court is filled with conservatives..... What a legacy of hate that'd be. I'd rather think of Bernie appointing liberal/progressive judges. Maybe even ones who would over turn money-in-politics laws. That'd be a huge gift to future generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarnarus Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Dunno why im reading this thread, im not from your craaazy place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troj Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) 15 hours ago, MalletFace said: This issue is going to be important, but we will likely see several years before we feel the impact. I'll wait patiently until then. I'm surprised at how many people I know fear that guns will be banned but feel no irony or shame in demanding that entire religions, sexual orientations, or actions be banned. Big Government= government restricting things I like, or requiring things I dislike. For me, the truly fascinating thing is how people are letting their (often racially-motivated) hatred of Obama cloud their judgment, such that they don't realize that they'd probably end up resenting a Sanders or Trump appointee more than an Obama one. Edited February 18, 2016 by Troj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) On 2/13/2016 at 5:01 PM, Saxon said: I still feel bad about someone dying. why? i mean really, people die all the time, hell one probably died while i was writing this post. did you feel for them too? or just this awful human being who has done his best to hinder social and legal progress. i will never understand this sentiment. i celebrate his death, and hope that somebody who reflects the values of our current society and generation will ascend to the bench, instead of a self absorbed jesus mongering cuckbucket Edited February 18, 2016 by Azure forgot to add inflammatory insults 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukh Whitefang Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 So supposedly the President is skipping the funeral of Scalia. Which is a huge snub and indecent. But he has skipped many high profile funerals before so he is right on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalletFace Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 22 minutes ago, Rukh Whitefang said: So supposedly the President is skipping the funeral of Scalia. Which is a huge snub and indecent. But he has skipped many high profile funerals before so he is right on track. Presidents skip funerals of government officials all the time, even of people they appoint. What would be odd is if he did not comment on the situation and attend official gatherings about it. I would feel uncomfortable attending somebody's funeral just because I worked with them too, and even more if I disagreed with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukh Whitefang Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, MalletFace said: Presidents skip funerals of government officials all the time, even of people they appoint. What would be odd is if he did not comment on the situation and attend official gatherings about it. I would feel uncomfortable attending somebody's funeral just because I worked with them too, and even more if I disagreed with them. Yeah... Skips a funeral of a Scotus member but has time to go to Clementa Pinckney's, Ted Kennedy's, and Robert Byrd's funeral. Obama is sending Biden to the funeral instead. Its a indecent snub. Last SCOTUS who past away was in 05 and not only did Bush go ,he gave a Eulogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexInsane Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) If I were Obama, I wouldn't go to the funeral of someone who actively worked against my principles either. Also: 'high profile funerals'? What, are you seriously judged because you don't go to funerals? I guess if you're the POTUS you are, but that is IMPOSSIBLY petty and pointless. Edited February 19, 2016 by AlexInsane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukh Whitefang Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AlexInsane said: If I were Obama, I wouldn't go to the funeral of someone who actively worked against my principles either. Also: 'high profile funerals'? What, are you seriously judged because you don't go to funerals? I guess if you're the POTUS you are, but that is IMPOSSIBLY petty and pointless. They had ideological differences, but this is a missed opportunity by the president, not to honor the man, per se, but to honor what he represented in America - committed civil service, careful deliberation of the rule of law, hard work, and the ability to disagree with people without being disagreeable. This is one of the waning chances where he could have been a Statesman, a leader who reminded us of what's best about us and what is best about America, even as the presidential candidates try to bring out our worst. Edit: Yes because its a political statement. Just like sending an envoy to Micheal Browns's funeral but not an envoy to Chris Kyle's or any recent police officer killed in the line of duty. Its a snub. Edited February 19, 2016 by Rukh Whitefang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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