General Chat/Time-Waster Thread

[Brass]

I have no fucking idea what I'm doing

then do nothing

[grassfed]

then do nothing

Seems to work for me

[DrGravitas]

I have no fucking idea what I'm doing

That's pretty much normal for most people.

[Kaizy]

I had to skip my class tonight, I was so unprepared for the presentation we have to give that I just can't even justify going. I didn't have enough time to finish all the material needed for the presentation and haven't memorized everything I needed to say, so I'll just have to see if I can do make-up session or something. This semester has absolutely drained me. There's so many due dates all falling on the same day and the volume of work in the past couple weeks has been overwhelming. The added stress of being so far behind in my scripting class because I can't understand any of the material is making everything worse for me.

I'm just collapsing under the weight of this semester. Anxiety and depression have been kicking it into high gear the past month. I'm just so tired.

[MissFleece]

I had to skip my class tonight, I was so unprepared for the presentation we have to give that I just can't even justify going. I didn't have enough time to finish all the material needed for the presentation and haven't memorized everything I needed to say, so I'll just have to see if I can do make-up session or something. This semester has absolutely drained me. There's so many due dates all falling on the same day and the volume of work in the past couple weeks has been overwhelming. The added stress of being so far behind in my scripting class because I can't understand any of the material is making everything worse for me.

I'm just collapsing under the weight of this semester. Anxiety and depression have been kicking it into high gear the past month. I'm just so tired.

fucking same. Sorry to hear that Kaizy, if you need someone to help or listen feel free to pm me. 

[Kaizy]

fucking same. Sorry to hear that Kaizy, if you need someone to help or listen feel free to pm me. 

I'm fine. I'm doing well enough in all my classes, so the presentation isn't much of a setback right now. I'm almost certain I'm failing the scripting class though, so I'm prepared for a worse-case scenario.

[Onnes]

I'm fine. I'm doing well enough in all my classes, so the presentation isn't much of a setback right now. I'm almost certain I'm failing the scripting class though, so I'm prepared for a worse-case scenario.

Does that class have office or discussion/tutoring hours? Taking advantage of those kinds of things tends to be one the more effective ways of dealing with difficult courses.

[Kaizy]

Does that class have office or discussion/tutoring hours? Taking advantage of those kinds of things tends to be one the more effective ways of dealing with difficult courses.

There's a tutor, but their hours are really conflicting and I barely have time to meet outside my schedule this semester, so it's not really an option right now. I've talked to the instructor multiple times, and he knows that I'm probably struggling the hardest out of the entire class, and he's assured me many times that I won't fail if I keep trying, but I just don't see it happening. Anytime new concepts are brought up (which is almost every class), I'm completely lost and I don't understand any of it, so I basically feel like I've zoned out for the entire 2 hours I'm in the class. Because I didn't understand the concepts in class, I struggle to complete any assignment that's given out, and whenever I do manage to turn one it, they usually don't work correctly, or only work just enough to show that I at least tried.

The most difficult part for me is I've never had a class I've struggled so hard in, and from what I know, it's not even a difficult class in terms of scripting, it's like basic barebones Javascript shit. But it's completely lost on me. I've never been in a situation where I struggle this badly with a class and feel like I have no chance at recovery, so I don't know how to handle the situation, which is what's causing me the most stress. I've nearly shut down at this point, there's like 3 weeks of classes left and the finals week and I don't know if I can pull it back from where I'm at now.

/rant

Edited November 17, 2015 by Kaizy

[Onnes]

... /rant

That's too bad; any class can be extraordinarily difficult when dealing with stress and time constraints. I tutor in Physics as a TA so it always makes me sad to people struggling with classes.

 

[Tsuujou]

There's a tutor, but their hours are really conflicting and I barely have time to meet outside my schedule this semester, so it's not really an option right now. I've talked to the instructor multiple times, and he knows that I'm probably struggling the hardest out of the entire class, and he's assured me many times that I won't fail if I keep trying, but I just don't see it happening. Anytime new concepts are brought up (which is almost every class), I'm completely lost and I don't understand any of it, so I basically feel like I've zoned out for the entire 2 hours I'm in the class. Because I didn't understand the concepts in class, I struggle to complete any assignment that's given out, and whenever I do manage to turn one it, they usually don't work correctly, or only work just enough to show that I at least tried.

The most difficult part for me is I've never had a class I've struggled so hard in, and from what I know, it's not even a difficult class in terms of scripting, it's like basic barebones Javascript shit. But it's completely lost on me. I've never been in a situation where I struggle this badly with a class and feel like I have no chance at recovery, so I don't know how to handle the situation, which is what's causing me the most stress. I've nearly shut down at this point, there's like 3 weeks of classes left and the finals week and I don't know if I can pull it back from where I'm at now.

/rant

Christ. This sounds like my situation when I took a web design class back in college. This shit builds up FAST and if you don't get a topic by the next class, you were just lost. Hated it. I was a wreck that semester.

If your teacher believes in you, you might have a chance though. Don't give up.

[Phausk]

There's a tutor, but their hours are really conflicting and I barely have time to meet outside my schedule this semester, so it's not really an option right now. I've talked to the instructor multiple times, and he knows that I'm probably struggling the hardest out of the entire class, and he's assured me many times that I won't fail if I keep trying, but I just don't see it happening. Anytime new concepts are brought up (which is almost every class), I'm completely lost and I don't understand any of it, so I basically feel like I've zoned out for the entire 2 hours I'm in the class. Because I didn't understand the concepts in class, I struggle to complete any assignment that's given out, and whenever I do manage to turn one it, they usually don't work correctly, or only work just enough to show that I at least tried.

The most difficult part for me is I've never had a class I've struggled so hard in, and from what I know, it's not even a difficult class in terms of scripting, it's like basic barebones Javascript shit. But it's completely lost on me. I've never been in a situation where I struggle this badly with a class and feel like I have no chance at recovery, so I don't know how to handle the situation, which is what's causing me the most stress. I've nearly shut down at this point, there's like 3 weeks of classes left and the finals week and I don't know if I can pull it back from where I'm at now.

/rant

Heya, if you need help with anything, don't be afraid to hit me up. I'm no Javascript expert, but I should know enough to get you through a basic class like that. What are they teaching you in it thus far and which areas are you having trouble in?

Brass could probably help you too since he's like, in the industry and stuff.

Edited November 17, 2015 by Phausk

[Kaizy]

Heya, if you need help with anything, don't be afraid to hit me up. I'm no Javascript expert, but I should know enough to get you through a basic class like that. What are they teaching you in it thus far and which areas are you having trouble in?

Brass could probably help you too since he's like, in the industry and stuff.

I'm pretty much struggling in all of it. Though the biggest things I have problems understanding are loops, arrays, and currently, using jQuery to make Ajax calls, retrieve data, and display it on a page.

[Brass]

Brass could probably help you too since he's like, in the industry and stuff.

I'm in a co-op and I am just starting research. I would hardly call that the industry. 

[Phausk]

I'm pretty much struggling in all of it. Though the biggest things I have problems understanding are loops, arrays, and currently, using jQuery to make Ajax calls, retrieve data, and display it on a page.

Geez, they have you doing jQuery stuff? Well the other stuff isn't too hard; It's just a matter of understanding the concepts and the syntax.
For quick and easy tutorials and references, I'd say W3Schools is alright to learn from. Somebody else might have something better, but it has always done the trick for me to get up and running. Or if you just want to ask me stuff, that's fine too. I just hope I can explain it good enough haha
 

Edited November 17, 2015 by Phausk

[Brass]

I put too much garlic in my food and now I can't eat it. I guess it is beer for dinner again

[Phausk]

As a lady I can do whatever the hell I want on the toilet. I never realised that farting while pissing was so risky for dudes =O

You should try it standing up!

[Kaizy]

Geez, they have you doing jQuery stuff? Well the other stuff isn't too hard; It's just a matter of understanding the concepts and the syntax.
For quick and easy tutorials and references, I'd say W3Schools is alright to learn from. Somebody else might have something better, but it has always done the trick for me to get up and running. Or if you just want to ask me stuff, that's fine too. I just hope I can explain it good enough haha
 

Yeah, the class teaches Javascript and jQuery. It's required for design majors at my school, and coming from a purely traditional art background with little tech knowledge, I've been struggling with it a lot. The syntax itself is what confuses me, as I'm terrible with the kind of structured system that scripting usually has and get confused by it rather easily.

W3Schools is what I used to help me learn HTML/CSS stuff, but it hasn't been as helpful with Javascript. I feel like I need a lot of visuals and to see things in action to understand Javascript because it's so syntax heavy, whereas HTML/CSS is a lot more free and visual based. I'm such a visual learner, which makes it a struggle to learn things like math and scripting because it's not a very visual subject.

It's times like this I wish I had just focused more on developing my traditional art skills and went into Illustration or something. :T

[Brass]

Yeah, the class teaches Javascript and jQuery. It's required for design majors at my school, and coming from a purely traditional art background with little tech knowledge, I've been struggling with it a lot. The syntax itself is what confuses me, as I'm terrible with the kind of structured system that scripting usually has and get confused by it rather easily.

W3Schools is what I used to help me learn HTML/CSS stuff, but it hasn't been as helpful with Javascript. I feel like I need a lot of visuals and to see things in action to understand Javascript because it's so syntax heavy, whereas HTML/CSS is a lot more free and visual based. I'm such a visual learner, which makes it a struggle to learn things like math and scripting because it's not a very visual subject.

It's times like this I wish I had just focused more on developing my traditional art skills and went into Illustration or something. :T

Unfortunately I don't know of many visual approaches to programming. 

[Kaizy]

Unfortunately I don't know of many visual approaches to programming. 

Yeah, that's the unfortunate part for me. Best I can get is like step-by-step examples that show me what the hell is going on and how it should look when it runs the script.

[Brass]

 

Yeah, that's the unfortunate part for me. Best I can get is like step-by-step examples that show me what the hell is going on and how it should look when it runs the script.

Here is quick and dirty visuals for arrays. I am turbo wasted so maybe it's not that great but maybe it clears up how arrays are structured. 

 

[Brass]

Here is some python code to show the concept. Just hit run

https://repl.it/B0fP/1

[Kaizy]

Seems simple enough. Maybe I just have trouble in the actual execution, which I guess I can really only solve through practice.

I just want Thanksgiving break to roll around so I can actually have some downtime to invest in that online course so I can get the credit for the class and maybe actually learn something.

[Brass]

Seems simple enough. Maybe I just have trouble in the actual execution, which I guess I can really only solve through practice.

I just want Thanksgiving break to roll around so I can actually have some downtime to invest in that online course so I can get the credit for the class and maybe actually learn something.

good luck punk possum 

If that shitty diagram helped at all I can do one for loops too. IDK. 

[Pignog]

Do you think the tutor would be willing to meet with you outside their TA hours? I know they're not required to on the syllabus but I used to do this for students who had busy schedules if they e-mailed me and asked. Usually teaching assistants and instructors are stuck dealing with students who grade grub or fight them on everything, so when one shows up who genuinely needs help they tend to bend over backwards to help. Unless you've got a dick tutor.

[Phausk]

Yeah, the class teaches Javascript and jQuery. It's required for design majors at my school, and coming from a purely traditional art background with little tech knowledge, I've been struggling with it a lot. The syntax itself is what confuses me, as I'm terrible with the kind of structured system that scripting usually has and get confused by it rather easily.

W3Schools is what I used to help me learn HTML/CSS stuff, but it hasn't been as helpful with Javascript. I feel like I need a lot of visuals and to see things in action to understand Javascript because it's so syntax heavy, whereas HTML/CSS is a lot more free and visual based. I'm such a visual learner, which makes it a struggle to learn things like math and scripting because it's not a very visual subject.

It's times like this I wish I had just focused more on developing my traditional art skills and went into Illustration or something. :T

Ahhh. Yeah the syntax can be confusing. I'll try to give a quick rundown of basic stuff in text. Not sure how helpful it'll be...
Unfortunately I can't really put everything in this, as it's just too much info for one post lol

Comments are ignored by the Javascript interpreter and are only used for making your code easier to understand. There are two kinds of comments, a single line comment starts with two slashes ( // ), and all text to the right of them will be ignored. A multi-line comment starts with a slash and an asterisk ( /* ) and ends with an asterisk and a slash ( */ ).

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A Javascript statement is an executable line of code. Normally you would use a statement to do something useful, like store a value, or call a function that does something neat. Or it can do nothing useful at all! Statements always end with a semi-colon, which denotes the end of a statement. After executing, Javascript will proceed to the next line of code. The semi-colon is comparable to a period at the end of a sentence.
 

Examples of statements

4 + 2;              // This won't do anything useful
var x = 1;          // This will store the value 1 into variable x
var y = 4 + 2;      // This will store the value 6 into variable y
doSomethingCool();  // This will call the doSomethingCool function

One thing to note, is that Javascript doesn't care about white space. So you could have multiple statements on one line, or one statement spread out on multiple lines! This is often discouraged because it makes your code harder to read.

Example of valid but unconventional code

statement1; statement2; statement3;
var x =
        4 +
        2;

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To call a function, you type its name, followed by parentheses. Inside of the parentheses is where you would put parameters, which are just relevant pieces of data passed to the function so it can act on the values given. Not all functions accept parameters, but if they do, they are required. A function may or may not return anything (such as a value).

For instance, let's say there's a function named add, which accepts two parameters, number1 and number2. It will add these two numbers together and return the sum, which you can do whatever you want with. Let's show how it would be used (this function is just an example and doesn't exist unless you define it)

add(5, 5);              // Would return 10, but nothing would happen
var sum = add(7, 3);    // Would return 10 and store it in a variable named sum

sum = add(2, 2) + add(4, 4);        // This is valid too! 12 is stored in sum

NOTE: Don't forget that semi-colon!

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Blocks of code are defined with curly braces: { }
The left brace is the beginning of the code block, and the right one is the end.
You can store as many statements as you want inside of them. They are used for special constructs, such as: loops, conditional statements (aka if statements), and function definitions.

Example
In this example, the block of code will only execute if the conditional statement is true

if (1 == 1)             // If 1 is equal to 1 (which is true)
{
    var x = 1;
    var y = 2 + 2;
    suckMyButt(you);
}

If you noticed, if statements also use parentheses, but for a different purpose. The stuff inside of the parentheses must equal true for its code block to be executed. By using these, you can direct the code flow by comparing values using specific operators. There's a lot more about them, but that's for another time.

Another great thing about code blocks is that you can nest them! But be careful not to nest too many levels, or your code might get confusing fast
Example 2 - Nesting
In this example, the block of code will only execute if the conditional statement is true, and if the conditional statement inside of that code block is true, another code block will execute. Neat huh?

if (1 == 1)                 // If 1 is equal to 1, which is true
{
    var you = "gay";        // A very gay variable
    if (you == "gay")       // If the string "gay" is equivalent to the string "gay"
    {
        statement1;
        statement2;
        statement3;
        // etc.
    }
}

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Arrays are variables that can store multiple values. You declare them like you would a normal variable, but assign its value with brackets: [ ]
Each item within an array is separated by a comma.
To access items in an array, type the array's name, then use brackets, then put the index number inside of the brackets
Example

// Repetitive and not very expandable code
var car1 = "Volvo";
var car2 = "Chevy";
var car3 = "Ford";
var car4 = "Dodge";

// Converted into an array
var cars = ["Volvo", "Chevy", "Ford", "Dodge"];
// index      0        1        2        3

var chevy = cars[1];        // Retrieves and stores Chevy, which is at index 1

The position of a value in an array is referred to as the index, and the index always starts at 0 and counts up by 1

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Sorry that this is shit, but it passed the time

[Dijon]

I put too much garlic in my food and now I can't eat it. I guess it is beer for dinner again

no such thing as too much garlic

beer for dinner is a good choice too tho

[Spot]

As a lady I can do whatever the hell I want on the toilet. I never realised that farting while pissing was so risky for dudes =O

With great manmeat comes great responsibility.

[Sidewalk Surfboard]

I come home from school and log in to my favorite forum and am greeted with more math

[Dr. Doggo]

I come home from school and log in to my favorite forum and am greeted with more math

thats more logic than math

[Sidewalk Surfboard]

thats more logic than math

I'm tired shut up

[MissFleece]

Today's a day where you just want to throw up and cry. 

[Dr. Doggo]

So I don't know when my cousin's funeral is, or what's going to happen to her two little sons. Haven't heard from anyone about what's going on since the incident.

[Brass]

Today's a day where you just want to throw up and cry. 

It's okay lamb

[MissFleece]

So I don't know when my cousin's funeral is, or what's going to happen to her two little sons. Haven't heard from anyone about what's going on since the incident.

:((( shit gibs, I'm sorry 

It's okay lamb

Thanks brassy, it's cool though, bad days happen and you just gotta trek on through. If I feel like doing anything stupid I got enough brownies to knock out an elephant so I'm good. 

[Brass]

Thanks brassy, it's cool though, bad days happen and you just gotta trek on through. If I feel like doing anything stupid I got enough brownies to knock out an elephant so I'm good. 

That's the spirit lambchops

 

So I don't know when my cousin's funeral is, or what's going to happen to her two little sons. Haven't heard from anyone about what's going on since the incident.

It kinda sucks that kids seem like an after thought in these sorts of situations. 

[Dr. Doggo]

:((( shit gibs, I'm sorry

don't worry ma'am

It kinda sucks that kids seem like an after thought in these sorts of situations. 

I'm sure they have a plan, I just haven't heard about it yet. My family extends to be kindasorta large, it's just that the dad is a very busy man and I think he's somewhat detached lately, which worries me.

[Terminal7]

[...]

Sorry that this is shit, but it passed the time

No, this is perfectly fine.

[evan]

i'm sick of getting sick

dealing with mental health and stress would be fine, i can manage, but the amount of stress i've put myself under has seemed to weaken my immune system

i used to get sick very infrequently, but now i seem to be affected by even the slightest passing illness.

[Kellie Gator]

Sometimes I lose the will to work out completely but it's like, I can't fight my own biology. I NEED to lose weight so I can have sex reassignment surgery. Either that or probably eat like, one fifth of what I eat now or something, I don't fucking know.

Just, I'm not gonna lie. I prefer video games. But I have no choice, I need a surgery and I'm also overly paranoid about my health, so water gymnastics it is.

blehhhh...

[Sourdough]

Sometimes I lose the will to work out completely but it's like, I can't fight my own biology. I NEED to lose weight so I can have sex reassignment surgery. Either that or probably eat like, one fifth of what I eat now or something, I don't fucking know.

Just, I'm not gonna lie. I prefer video games. But I have no choice, I need a surgery and I'm also overly paranoid about my health, so water gymnastics it is.

blehhhh...

Water gymnastics sounds fun. Is it exactly what it sounds like?

[Kellie Gator]

Water gymnastics sounds fun. Is it exactly what it sounds like?

I guess? I'm not sure what image is in your head. An instructor shows us gymnastic moves we're supposed to imitate in a swimming pool.

I think my problem is I don't like the instructor I have on tuesdays much, I feel like she insults my intelligence but also pushes us a bit too hard considering that we're all fat, old or overweight there.

But I wouldn't trade it for any other kind of exercise. I feel right at home in water. ^w^

[Vallium]

I guess? I'm not sure what image is in your head. An instructor shows us gymnastic moves we're supposed to imitate in a swimming pool.

I think my problem is I don't like the instructor I have on tuesdays much, I feel like she insults my intelligence but also pushes us a bit too hard considering that we're all fat, old or overweight there.

But I wouldn't trade it for any other kind of exercise. I feel right at home in water. ^w^

Water scaley confurmed

[Kellie Gator]

Water scaley confurmed

I'm a crocogator, aren't I? <3

[Guest]

Lol I should be studying but fuck that shit. You know those moments you're stressed and you realize you just need some ''me'' time to recover a little? I'm having my ''me'' time. No I'm not masturbating you sickos

Edited November 17, 2015 by Guest

[Spot]

No I'm not masturbating you sickos

Denial is a sign you have a problem. So I'm gonna assume you are.

[Sourdough]

Lol I should be studying but fuck that shit. You know those moments you're stressed and you realize you just need some ''me'' time to recover a little? I'm having my ''me'' time. No I'm not masturbating you sickos

I do this a lot. For me it's computer off, boil the kettle for tea, and turn on the Food Network.

Then I masturbate.

[Dr. Doggo]

I do this a lot. For me it's computer off, boil the kettle for tea, and turn on the Food Network.

Then I masturbate.

i take it you're the sort of guy that loves the baguette

[Sourdough]

i take it you're the sort of guy that loves the baguette

That and a good 15 Minute Quickie with my man Jamie Oliver.

[Guest]

Denial is a sign you have a problem. So I'm gonna assume you are.

You sure you don't want some good ol' man milk? 'Cause... You were ghey, weren't you? Can't remember. I mean you're a fox, so one assumes that...

[Spot]

You sure you don't want some good ol' man milk? 'Cause... You were ghey, weren't you? Can't remember. I mean you're a fox, so one assumes that...

While I am grateful for your offer there good sir need I remind you that I am a gentleman and require wooing first, and high quality chocolates. :v