Mentova Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 But the story, man, it's like they didn't even try. There is so little character development it hurts to think about it.The main quest was just meh videogame story telling for the most part. My biggest problem is that you couldn't attempt to get the institute to chill the fuck out and try to help people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 isn't it great? I want a print of it for my living room.I might make it a tattoo. No that's totally not creepy at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sparta Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I am CIAYou do not get to bring friendsThey are not my friends 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 The main quest was just meh videogame story telling for the most part. My biggest problem is that you couldn't attempt to get the institute to chill the fuck out and try to help people.What are you talking about? They're disillusioned with the belief that that's what the androids are for. Oh shit, did I just give away some of the plot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrirDarkWolf Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 why do the mods never come to my skype anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilishlyHandsome49 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Fallout 4 is lame.Excuuuuuse me? >:V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 why do the mods never come to my skype anymoreDon't feel bad, you could always be me and not have anyone from here on your Skype to start with.Excuuuuuse me? >:VBring it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentova Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 What are you talking about? They're disillusioned with the belief that that's what the androids are for.This is getting into spoiler territory so I'll use tagsTheir whole deal is that they want to make a future for humanity through technology. The problem is that when they tried to help the surface years ago, it didn't go well so they got all emo and sealed themselves off and started using synths to pull the strings from behind the scenes like the illuminati or something, as well as doing some shady, immoral experiments with surface dwellers. I was hoping that, since your son is their leader and you take over once he dies if you go down that path, you could reform them and be like, "Listen bitches, no more of this shit. We're actually gunna help the surface now and make the world a better place for everyone" but you never do. You can kinda bring that up when you do the radio speech by changing it to talk about how the institute is there to help, but other than your son being like, "Oh, that's different but it works!", nothing happens. You can kinda headcannon it that your character does reform them since after you take over, nothing really happens but I'd rather there be actual stuff you can do. Like, maybe a really hard charisma check or something. I went with them in the end anyways since your other options are "crazy railroad people that mean well but go overboard", fascists, and the minutemen. Minutemen would've been my choice if they didn't fucking blow the institute up and create another irradiated hellhole, wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilishlyHandsome49 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Don't feel bad, you could always be me and not have anyone from here on your Skype to start with.Bring it.I'm about to bust yo ass up in my power armor. T-45 homeboy Edited December 8, 2015 by DevilishlyHandsome49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm about to bust yo ass up in my power armor. T-45 homeboyAnnnnnd you're gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clove Darkwave Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Aww did you guys really permaban Zara? That's a damn shame, I'll miss his effortposts. A lot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 #UnbanZara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onnes Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Aww did you guys really permaban Zara? That's a damn shame, I'll miss his effortposts. A lot...I just assume he was looking for a way out, given he certainly knew what would happen if he started spamming reports and then made a shitton of additional accounts to dodge the bans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zop Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 FYI Zara's profile doesn't indicate he's been permanently banned. He might just be temp banned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboe Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 When the mods do their job correctly and ban/tempban/warn people who need to be punished, they're horrible unfunny jerks who are too serious.When the mods are more lenient, they're big evil and "retarded" because they won't follow your every whim.What the fuck is wrong with you people? https://youtu.be/W_4i8tzqI-k?t=50m40s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissFleece Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 y'all are children. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) So Zara's baned, now? I've lost one of my biggest playtoys? Guess I need to find a new one.Would you look at this. A nice fully-loaded exploit kit for all forums running Invision-based software, up to the most recent version 4.Thank you mods for inspiring me to find something new to play with since Zara is gone, now.Did you know that I don't have to login to access your admin accounts?Did you know you're vulnerable to three different SQL injection attacks?I can XSS into a POODLE/BEAST attack, this site isn't very secured against that, either.Your database is far from secure.You know what I think? Instead of trying to fix the people, perhaps you should focus first on fixing your site software, because you end up pissing the wrong user off - well it took me less than five minutes doing the most bare-basic research to find out how to utterly and permanently wipe the site. Imagine what happens if someone that truly gave a shit actually EXPLOITED them.Your asses would be FUCKED before you could blink an eye.So you might wanna lock your shit down and practice basic security before you continue on pissing people off. Not a smart thing to do when you're a wide-open target with ZERO armor. it's posts like these that make me struggle to believe that you ever say anything truthfully and i'm not gullible in trying to believe you. either that or you have a lot of work to do on the concept of patience, to be blunt. Edited December 8, 2015 by evan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilishlyHandsome49 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 So Zara's baned, now? I've lost one of my biggest playtoys? Guess I need to find a new one.Would you look at this. A nice fully-loaded exploit kit for all forums running Invision-based software, up to the most recent version 4.Thank you mods for inspiring me to find something new to play with since Zara is gone, now.Did you know that I don't have to login to access your admin accounts?Did you know you're vulnerable to three different SQL injection attacks?I can XSS into a POODLE/BEAST attack, this site isn't very secured against that, either.Your database is far from secure.You know what I think? Instead of trying to fix the people, perhaps you should focus first on fixing your site software, because you end up pissing the wrong user off - well it took me less than five minutes doing the most bare-basic research to find out how to utterly and permanently wipe the site. Imagine what happens if someone that truly gave a shit actually EXPLOITED them.Your asses would be FUCKED before you could blink an eye.So you might wanna lock your shit down and practice basic security before you continue on pissing people off. Not a smart thing to do when you're a wide-open target with ZERO armor. Someone gets banned and you react like this? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilishlyHandsome49 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 My tits are calm. I'm just pointing out that this site's staff is walking towards a disaster of FA-style proportions.Imagine if Sibe were here and you guys banned him. Every last one of us would be FUCKED right now with the incredibly shoddy security.It's called 'framing a scenario.'If you think it's making a threat, you're putting your own emotion into those words, not me. Might be your own tits that need calming!Sounded far from "framing a scenario" and more like "You've pissed me off. This is what I'm able to do now that I'm pissed off" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Who is Sibe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentova Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 So Zara's baned, now? I've lost one of my biggest playtoys? Guess I need to find a new one.Would you look at this. A nice fully-loaded exploit kit for all forums running Invision-based software, up to the most recent version 4.Thank you mods for inspiring me to find something new to play with since Zara is gone, now.Did you know that I don't have to login to access your admin accounts?Did you know you're vulnerable to three different SQL injection attacks?I can XSS into a POODLE/BEAST attack, this site isn't very secured against that, either.Your database is far from secure.You know what I think? Instead of trying to fix the people, perhaps you should focus first on fixing your site software, because you end up pissing the wrong user off - well it took me less than five minutes doing the most bare-basic research to find out how to utterly and permanently wipe the site. Imagine what happens if someone that truly gave a shit actually EXPLOITED them.Your asses would be FUCKED before you could blink an eye.So you might wanna lock your shit down and practice basic security before you continue on pissing people off. Not a smart thing to do when you're a wide-open target with ZERO armor. Then get on my account and change my avatar!!! YOU THINK YOU CAN SCARE ME??? DO IT! >:c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clove Darkwave Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Who is Sibe?Oh gods no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 No don't be a dick. tell me. It's this guy right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clove Darkwave Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm currently dealing with a nosebleed while I sit here. And I'm too lazy to elaborate. Just turn on all of your Adblocker and NoScript and type Encyclopedia Dramatica Sibe into a search. He's a real piece of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilishlyHandsome49 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Now take that mindset and apply it to a user actually banned.You're missing the point and jumping when nobody gave the order.Except when you said it, you at no point mentioned it was from the pov of the user being banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vae Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 What Zara did was stupid,but I think permas should be restricted to stuff like gore spam, hacking, shit like that. Cases based on severity.A perma for spamming the report system and creating a few alts seems excessive, for something that should warrant a "chill the fuck out dude" temp for like a month or something. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) I'm currently dealing with a nosebleed while I sit here. And I'm too lazy to elaborate. Just turn on all of your Adblocker and NoScript and type Encyclopedia Dramatica Sibe into a search. He's a real piece of work.No, don't be lazy. >:cOK so I looked him up and it's the guy I linked, right? How does a person like that even function?I guess he's just another example of how many fucked up individuals there are in the fandom. Much sigh. Edited December 8, 2015 by Mr. Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentova Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 What Zara did was stupid,but I think permas should be restricted to stuff like gore spam, hacking, shit like that. Cases based on severity.A perma for spamming the report system and creating a few alts seems excessive, for something that should warrant a "chill the fuck out dude" temp for like a month or something.He was going to get a temp chill the fuck out ban at first, then he kept making more alts. Maybe we'll drop it down to a month or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clove Darkwave Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 No, don't lazy. >:cOK so I looked him up and it's the guy I linked, right? How does a person like that even function?I guess he's just another example of how many fucked up individuals there are in the fandom. Much sigh. Yeah that's the one. Pretty depressing to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Your first mistake is believing ANYONE or ANYTHING on the internet.Your second mistake is thinking you can know me without ever meeting with me in real life.Your third mistake is you're trying to frame some point while you yourself have already admitted to being seriously stressed out - and it shows through your attitude in this post. You're not in a condition to think clearly and you should probably step away from both alphanumeric and ivory keyboards for a while.so i messed up because i tried to assume your post had factual substance, but i also messed up because i had reason not to. i don't want to start anything. i just have no idea what you're trying to say here. and don't try to validate my stress because i bitched. please. if you have something to say, i wanna hear it, and if you want to determine that i'm an idiot, then let's do it in discussion, not on some principle that in all honesty is probably just me being vapid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hey bbys did I miss any sweet sweet SWEET drama OHOHO did the mods get trigger happy again AND rassah is back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) On 12/8/2015 at 3:26 PM, Brass said: Hey bbys did I miss any sweet sweet SWEET drama Furries have the best brand of drama, bby. Ain't none like it. Edited December 9, 2015 by Mr. Fox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Furries have the best brand of drama, bby. Ain't none like it.shit is like pulled pork I can't get enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revates Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hey bbys did I miss any sweet sweet SWEET dramaOHOHO did the mods get trigger happy again AND rassah is backWelcome back bby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Welcome back bby.shut up and send me snacks you dumb whore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hey bbys did I miss any sweet sweet SWEET dramathis is a furry fucking forum what kind of question is that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onnes Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 He was going to get a temp chill the fuck out ban at first, then he kept making more alts. Maybe we'll drop it down to a month or so.You should have left all the Zara alt accounts hanging around. With them gone I get the sense that people who weren't around at the time are unaware of that whole side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 who needs zara when you have me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentova Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 You should have left all the Zara alt accounts hanging around. With them gone I get the sense that people who weren't around at the time are unaware of that whole side of things.the posts should still be visible. I don't think anyone deleted them. I haven't seen much furry fucking happening here! Where's the hookup thread?I mean I'm pretty much always down for sex since I want to lose my virginity already so :V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 ...I was going to make a random statement but seems like a drama afterfest is going on so I'll step out and return another time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 ...I was going to make a random statement but seems like a drama afterfest is going on so I'll step out and return another timena mods are just jerking off to their latest kill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 ...I was going to make a random statement but seems like a drama afterfest is going on so I'll step out and return another time>not getting involved with furry drama>not a true furry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGravitas Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 we're officially cool now, guys 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 we're officially cool now, guysLooks like I'm the poster boy, sweet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalmor Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Jesus Christ almighty gets all take a step back for a sec. This is getting out of hand a bit.Now,When you have a user who has a consistent and longstanding disregard for the rules of both here on Phoenix and on old FAF (having been permabanned from the latter before), who doesn't seem to want to change their ways one bit or have civil discussion about why they get the infractions that they do AND they continue to bait and taunt mods.... to put it bluntly... What did you/he expect to happen? Those sorts of users are inherently toxic to the community and have no place here, in my opinion.Zara, for example, as with every user can appeal if he so wishes. As it stands right now, 3 of the 3 mods that were online at the time came to a consensus about the decision and that decision was made. We don't give these things out lightly. Very few bans have been given out here, especially recently while we've just been cruising along nicely (until today). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clove Darkwave Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm not surprised at all, just sad that the good that was there couldn't have been more common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 RIP Zara, what a swell shitposter. Dare I say I was fondest of him among the shitposters. That husky stared into my soul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Jesus Christ almighty gets all take a step back for a sec. This is getting out of hand a bit.Now,When you have a user who has a consistent and longstanding disregard for the rules of both here on Phoenix and on old FAF (having been permabanned from the latter before), who doesn't seem to want to change their ways one bit or have civil discussion about why they get the infractions that they do AND they continue to bait and taunt mods.... to put it bluntly... What did you/he expect to happen? Those sorts of users are inherently toxic to the community and have no place here, in my opinion.Zara, for example, as with every user can appeal if he so wishes. As it stands right now, 3 of the 3 mods that were online at the time came to a consensus about the decision and that decision was made. We don't give these things out lightly. Very few bans have been given out here, especially recently while we've just been cruising along nicely (until today).Maybe instead of focusing on Zara's previous history with FAF, you can focus on his clean slate here. He seems like the sort that wouldn't spam the fuck out of you lot if there weren't a good reason too. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Jesus Christ almighty gets all take a step back for a sec. This is getting out of hand a bit.Now,When you have a user who has a consistent and longstanding disregard for the rules of both here on Phoenix and on old FAF (having been permabanned from the latter before), who doesn't seem to want to change their ways one bit or have civil discussion about why they get the infractions that they do AND they continue to bait and taunt mods.... to put it bluntly... What did you/he expect to happen? Those sorts of users are inherently toxic to the community and have no place here, in my opinion.Zara, for example, as with every user can appeal if he so wishes. As it stands right now, 3 of the 3 mods that were online at the time came to a consensus about the decision and that decision was made. We don't give these things out lightly. Very few bans have been given out here, especially recently while we've just been cruising along nicely (until today).I'm pretty sure it makes you a shitty mod to cross site punish someone. His past actions on other sites shouldn't factor into your decision. are inherently toxicAre you sure about this. I think people would actually miss him. Sounds like bullshit to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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