Barnectomy Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) What is with metalheads commonly being super elitists? Now I don't have much experience with them in real life, but on the internet, they are some of the most arrogant fuckers you can come across when it involves discussing music. I realize that music is a very passionate interest to many people, and every genre has its share of jackasses. However, the metal community seems to have these dicks EVERYWHERE. From what I gather, it's not even about the music anymore, but who they can impress by listening to the most obscure bands. Anything that is even remotely mainstream is considered shit-tier and not "true metal" (but some stuff gets an automatic pass for being really old). They even use derogatory terms for certain types of related music, like butt rock. They are the most pretentious shits you can come across if they don't like what you like. They bring a toxicity to the community and actively make people feel ashamed for liking things outside of the very small spectrum of "real metal". Why do these people even consider themselves metalheads if they hate most metal? I thought I had a better rant in my head earlier, but this should get the point across. Edited January 24, 2016 by Barnectomy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clove Darkwave Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 The best part is that they keep inventing a bajillion subgenres. They're pretty bombastic people IRL though, fun to be around. But when it comes to discussing music I'll stick with my pretentious Goths. At least we all just refuse to talk to each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysocyon Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 If it's not black/thrash metal by some obscure European band recorded in a garage on tape and independently released, it's not real metal and you shouldn't listen to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I love a wide variety of genres including some metal, and I will agree that metal fans are among the worst when it comes to elitism I went to high school with a few metal heads, and they always thought their musical tastes were 'above' everyone elses, and would claim that anything electronic "isn't real music" Only to then go off and listen to a track with some angry Scandinavian dude screaming and making pig noises whilst another guy smashes the same few chords on a guitar over and over again for about 3 minutes. ok then 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysocyon Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Azurex said: I love a wide variety of genres including some metal, and I will agree that metal fans are among the worst when it comes to elitism I went to high school with a few metal heads, and they always thought their musical tastes were 'above' everyone elses, and would claim that anything electronic "isn't real music" Only to then go off and listen to a track with some angry Scandinavian dude screaming and making pig noises whilst another guy smashes the same few chords on a guitar over and over again for about 3 minutes. ok then One of my friends from high school was a metal elitist, but he like liked electronic music too, but only if it was something hardcore like industrial and would say everything else was pop or techno crap. He was pretty elitist about that too I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlynnCoyote Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Metal is Metal. It doesn't need to conform to any standard. Anyone who argues otherwise has contradicted the entire point of the genre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Clove Darkwave said: The best part is that they keep inventing a bajillion subgenres. They're pretty bombastic people IRL though, fun to be around. But when it comes to discussing music I'll stick with my pretentious Goths. At least we all just refuse to talk to each other. pff, you should listen to thrash-necro-indie-pop-lawdhavemercyonmysoul-beyonce-ultradeath-grind-kill-core and you'd know why they have a million genres. but this is a huge gripe for me, especially listening to idiots argue about what genre one artist/album/song plays/is... shit like that makes me think of some snobby wine-tasting club. fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinharia Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Duuuuude, I just played my bass guitar a little differen't to every other band, NEW METAL GENRE! As a Metalhead I hate metalheads sometimes. "Hey I like Alestorm" "EWWW! Why aren't you here for the other bands?" "This... is an Alestorm headlining show..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Where do you even meet people like this? I thought the point of listening to music was to enjoy it, not wear it as a badge for social acceptance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I could write a rant now about people who have bad experiences with 2 or 3 other people and instantly shit over a whole community. Fuck furries. I don't like you you rant about metalheads so every furry has to be like you so every furry sucks. Get what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnectomy Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Joshi said: I could write a rant now about people who have bad experiences with 2 or 3 other people and instantly shit over a whole community. Fuck furries. I don't like you you rant about metalheads so every furry has to be like you so every furry sucks. Get what I mean? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Coffeecup Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I bet u liek lady gagga dontcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vae Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 It's basically the musical equivalent of "I'm not like OTHER girls." I can't take that shit or those kinds of people seriously. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sludge post-metal noise rock loser reporting for duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 >there are people who don't listen to blackened brutal slamming symphonic goregrind with electronic elements 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Coffeecup Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) I like how some people are all "Well metal is metal, fuck the genre division" but it's pretty important really when you're talking of a genre that large. There are obvious differences in say, If These Trees Could Talk and Behemoth, but both could be classified as metal. Getting the genre right to find more similar artists is pretty useful, so that's why there are lots of genre warfares going on in there, but the same thing happens in EDM world so it'd be pretty hypocritical to label metalheads as sole quilty faction. I'm a metalhead myself, and I don't even look at the comments on YT. It's cancer enough as it is. I haven't ever even met an elitist metalhead in my life. Mostly we're a jolly glad bunch of people who like the heavier side of music and that connection alone is sometimes enough to warrant a thin friendship. Many metalheads play some instrument, or would like to, and cosnequently pay attention to the instruments and musicianship, and what happens in mainstream music everywhere is simplification for profits, which makes a lot of the well known metal bands sound pretty much the same and the formula is shitty to cater to as many people as possible. While I would say that A7x is still metal, I think it's shit because the band's been robbed of its freedom to really express themselves and they end up making cookie cutter metal many people don't think is "real" Edited January 24, 2016 by Sarcastic Coffeecup 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Personally I think all that crumbles my jonathons is when people refer to something like Slipknot or whatever as death metal on the basis that it's loud and edgy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Hey, I adore the term Buttrock! Even if anything classified as such doesn't have to be awful. It's just really fun to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half-Note Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 @OP, the fuck are you saying, you stinking cunt? Metal is the greatest music ever! Except for shit like alternative metal, glam metal, post-metal, grindcore, metalcore, hardcore, softcore, no-core, fag metal, jew metal, shit metal, steampunk metal, and all other genres I forgot! Hah, I bet you don't even know what real music is. I bet you listen to Avril Lavigne or some other gay shit like that. Oh, and by the way, you're really close-minded if you don't think Ozzy Osburn is A FUCKING GOD YOU FILTHY PEASANT MORTAL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 32 minutes ago, Sarcastic Coffeecup said: Many metalheads play some instrument, or would like to, and cosnequently pay attention to the instruments and musicianship, and what happens in mainstream music everywhere is simplification for profits, which makes a lot of the well known metal bands sound pretty much the same and the formula is shitty to cater to as many people as possible. While I would say that A7x is still metal, I think it's shit because the band's been robbed of its freedom to really express themselves and they end up making cookie cutter metal many people don't think is "real" I wouldn't go so far as to say A7X lost their freedom. I'm probably biased but there's a variety of instruments in their music that I appreciate a lot. Some of their songs are everything but metal. That's probably what people hate about this band but it's this very aspect I like about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 100% agree with you OP. I love me some metal music, but my tastes tend to fall on the more mainstream side of things. This doesn't bother me, mostly because I actually get to SEE the bands I like live. The obscure European black death sludge ain't coming to Wisconsin. I try and sample everything from the giant genre that metal is though. There's a lot of good stuff hidden away. But yeah, most of the metal fans I meet online are total cunts. This place ain't so bad though, and the metal thread in the Tube subboard has been pretty chill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Sarcastic Coffeecup said: I bet u liek lady gagga dontcha Yes :C Anyways, all my stuff is kind of modern and mainstream so Im kind of a fag, though I like to try to branch out and appreciate genres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikugemu Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 So, the true problem is the hipsters? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 What genre is Agalloch? Doesn't matter, they sexually excite my ears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodshot_Eyes Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) In this moment I realized, I have no labels. See labels do things, and they always do those things. Since I don't follow the label, I must make up a new label to describe how I act. :V Edited January 24, 2016 by Bloodshot_Eyes pluralizing a word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onnes Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Where do you people even find these walking stereotypes? Physicists love metal, and I've never been witness to any silly music arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) The metalheads that I meet are interesting. I know some extremely chill dudes who happen to know a huge variety of styles and types of metal and do a great job of talking about the pros and cons of each genre, but some of their friends...christ. Once got into an argument that prog wasn't just technical wankery. Had to explain to the person the numerous examples of Dream Theater's techniques used in any other form of music. This...did not register with them at all and they continued to call it mindless noodling. The list goes on and on. However, Coffee's post is on point. In fact one of my favourite composition professors is a huge fan of The Dillinger Escape Plan and 90s Thrash, and it goes to show that metalheads really aren't limited to being the semantic basement dwellers you see in youtube comments. They DO exist, but they're mostly people you just ignore when you try to talk about music and then in one fell swoop life is back to normal. Edited January 24, 2016 by evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerMaster5 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I may be a metalhead, but I am no elitist. I will gladly listen to any music, provided the musician is good. Except country and mainstream pop. And A7X rocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 4 hours ago, Machine said: What genre is Agalloch? Doesn't matter, they sexually excite my ears. I think it's like uh quasi-black metal What I've listened to sounds too clean to be black metal but the elements are there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I remember when I used to call myself a metalhead at age 13-ish just because I listened to a couple of Metallica songs. Dark times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerMaster5 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Amiir said: I remember when I used to call myself a metalhead at age 13-ish just because I listened to a couple of Metallica songs. Dark times. Yuck. You should have listened to Megadeth instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, LazerMaster5 said: Yuck. You should have listened to Megadeth instead. I disagree D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#00Buck Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Metal died in the 1990's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerMaster5 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 1 minute ago, #00Buck said: Metal died in the 1990's. Only if you are in Metallica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlynnCoyote Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 2 hours ago, #00Buck said: Metal died in the 1990's. LUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallium Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Guys, whats the big deal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Lemme share one of my favourite lesser known metal songs while we're at it. NWOBHM ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Doggo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) FUCK YES METAL THREAD Edited January 26, 2016 by Sir Gibby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 13 hours ago, WolfNightV4X1 said: Guys, whats the big deal? THIS IS SO FUCKING METAL OMG!!!1!1 Metal level: Over gazillions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axelthefox Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastryOfApathy Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 On 1/24/2016 at 11:33 AM, Luca said: Hey, I adore the term Buttrock! Even if anything classified as such doesn't have to be awful. It's just really fun to say Buttrock is only okay if it's somehow related to Sonic the Hedgehog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerMaster5 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Good luck finding the music video for this song. It was apparently so gruesome, it was banned from YouTube. Oh, and good song. Cattle Decapitation fucking rocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Jesus Christ Lazer, that was unpleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 37 minutes ago, LazerMaster5 said: Good luck finding the music video for this song. It was apparently so gruesome, it was banned from YouTube. Oh, and good song. Cattle Decapitation fucking rocks. Reminds me of Lamp of God in a way LOL. With much more epic drums. But I'll stick to metal with an actual singer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexInsane Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Have an interest? That's nice. I'm better at your interest than you are. Whatever it is. Doesn't really matter - I'm still better. I've done more, seen more, heard more, tasted more, felt more, had sex with more...because instead of building a community I just want to hide the shame of admitting I like things behind a fuckton of douchebaggery and dickmeasuring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 7 hours ago, PastryOfApathy said: Buttrock is only okay if it's somehow related to Sonic the Hedgehog. Crush 40 is the buttest of all buttrock, but Metal Gear Rising has some of the strongest buttrock I've ever enjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecker Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 this thread turned awesome all of the sudden and oh my fuck these bastards have a new album out and i didn't even fucking know it... FUCK YA coma ecliptic here i come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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