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I have come back home after a month abroad. A brilliant experience to have a christmas and NYE with a different company in a different country. It's always fun immersing yourself in a different language and a new culture for a longer period of time.

Now that I had to leave SO behind and return home on my own... Fuck me i feel gutted. Like someone took my left arm away.

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35 minutes ago, Sarcastic Coffeecup said:

I have come back home after a month abroad. A brilliant experience to have a christmas and NYE with a different company in a different country. It's always fun immersing yourself in a different language and a new culture for a longer period of time.

Now that I had to leave SO behind and return home on my own... Fuck me i feel gutted. Like someone took my left arm away.

I hope you get to see them again soon.

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On 1/6/2017 at 2:12 PM, DrGravitas said:

I have the strangest urge to work on modelling wings today. I guess I'll see how far I get when I get home this evening.

Already found a helpful ref link among one of my usual modelling-related sites:

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You have finally transcended to the most glorious path have life. My outspread wings welcome you into the brotherhood

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1 hour ago, Saxon said:

I don't know how other people manage to get their art accounts to take off. Most people seem to get more traffic on their sketches than I do on finished paintings. :\

 

Good question. Maybe they post a huge volume of comments on other people's accounts? Or make a lot of con appearances? Or give away free sex, any kind? This has also baffled me, ad I'm by no means an artist; as a lowly writer I pretty much gave up on FA and the like; it got depressing, not to get any comments/opinions and what not.

I'm not sure what the secret is...but your art is very high quality, and stands out in terms of style, so maybe it'll just take more time? Good luck here; the furry art world can be such a fickle place. Well, the whole world, for that matter, but not always.

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Getting views on art in general largely depends on who you know (and who is willing to spread exposure of your stuff by extension), pandering to fads and popular topics, pandering to popular artists (see fig 1: people you know), and just dumb luck.

Do not expect people to just line up and throw attention at you for your personal assessment of your own skills.
That's not really how that kind of thing works.

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13 minutes ago, Vae said:

Getting views on art in general largely depends on who you know (and who is willing to spread exposure of your stuff by extension), pandering to fads and popular topics, pandering to popular artists (see fig 1: people you know), and just dumb luck.

In other words, there's a lot of ass kissing. And no doubt kissing the right asses at the right time, and in just the right way.

It's a rough place.

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7 hours ago, Vae said:

Getting views on art in general largely depends on who you know (and who is willing to spread exposure of your stuff by extension), pandering to fads and popular topics, pandering to popular artists (see fig 1: people you know), and just dumb luck.

Do not expect people to just line up and throw attention at you for your personal assessment of your own skills.
That's not really how that kind of thing works.

Sad but true.

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9 hours ago, Saxon said:

It means hand.

Similar to the Spanish 'Manos', as in 'Lavate Los Manos', and of course the English term 'Manual' (lit. 'Of the Hand')

And now a little song!

Es Y'Golonac
Es Y'Golonac
Es Y'Golonac
Monstro con las bocas en sus manos

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12 hours ago, Saxon said:

I don't know how other people manage to get their art accounts to take off. Most people seem to get more traffic on their sketches than I do on finished paintings. :\

 

The easy way for fans:

1. Come up with an anthropomorphic sparkledog character.

2. Pay popufur artists to draw your anthropomorphic sparkledog with other popufur anthropomorphic sparkeldogs.

3. Congratulations! You are now a popufur. Enjoy the pageviews and drama.

 

The easy way for artists:

1. Find popufurs to commission you.

2. Draw their popufur anthro sparkledog characters with other popufur anthro sparkledogs.

3. Congratulations! You've painted yourself into a corner, and no longer have time to draw what you really want to draw.

 

The hard way for artists:

1. Come up with your own characters. Draw them however you like.

2. Maybe you'll be noticed, maybe you won't, but you'll further develop your own artistic voice.

3. Congratulations! You've earned the respect of fellow creative types.

 

I have mixed feelings about the commercialization of furry art. On the one hand, it's nice to think that furry artists can earn a living by taking commissions within the fandom. It's also nice to think that fans without artistic skills can create characters that others enjoy. On the other hand, creativity and self-expression can suffer when things become overly commercialized. Especially within a community that is defined, at least in part, by its DIY ethos. Although there still isn't an official furry canon, something is lost when art becomes so closely tied to monetary transactions. Without money, however, great art is less likely to be made because artists need to eat... hence my ambivalence.

 

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Some thinking about last page.

On the subject of online exposure and social climbing, one insidious method I've seen, and attempted for a while, was to be one of those porn-reblog-blogs whose admin has an active presence and persona within the blog. I figured you could probably use that to build a following by reblogging other peoples' work, trick people into becoming invested in you as an individual, and then abandon ship when you've 'matured'. If I was a good enough artist to begin with, I'd probably have tried swinging that method at the time, for the fun of seeing if I could if nothing else. By luck of sending a lot of public messages to people, I'd gotten a steady flow of new followers, and then I noticed it was gross (ie. got hate mail for careless tagging) and stopped. 

Social climbing feels awful, when I know all I really want is a small group of artists who are interested in sharing and talking about their work. If someone has a telegram channel like that, please hmu. Making an art Twitter and asking my friends to follow it made me feel like an ass. I worry a lot about it for someone who isn't in a position to do commissions yet.

A friend of mine irl has some ridiculous number of followers on his art instagram (for someone I know personally). For one because he's really good; and for two because he has been consistently posting speed paints and vlogs on Youtube for several years. He laments that a lot of his following consists of teenagers and trendy anime kids, but I guess it's still cool to have a following, right??? Even if you don't really respect them as peers because they only like you for who you used to be??? I recognise that despite his followers, he's not really that fulfilled. He just has that endorphin button option of being able to post sketches for a confidence boost. A small group of peers could do the same.

Somewhat related. The frontman of the band Eels got successful quick off his first album, but when he played live shows he got flack for not playing the music the way it sounded on the radio. His second album was hard to release because his manager said it was too said. He fired his manager and managed to convince other people of it's worth. He went through a lot of shit with subsequent albums as well. Either it wasn't the same as the last album, or didn't have a good single. Stuff like that. But he stuck to his guns for the most part, and his music is really well regarded and respected for it. All main course, no bubblegum. In the success of his first album, he was being chewed up by the MTV mainstream machine. After that he was making real art, and lucky for him he'd earned his spot in the public eye with his hit single for him to get recognition for it. "Things The Grandchildren Should Know" by Mark Oliver Everett is a great memoir and if you like Eels, I recommend it a lot.

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Today I tried to bring up a personal question to a client today out of curiosity, and I wanted to get to know them. I was awkward, my head was swimming, and I stumbled on what to say a little. It worked though because I caught them off guard, they asked me my name and gave me theirs, I shook their hand and they left. My heart was racing and I felt, I guess, shaky and my head in the clouds. 

Is this how you make friends? Thanks, anxiety

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11 minutes ago, DrGravitas said:

Good lord! Does you're state have any season with sane weather?! D8

Here? Nah.
We can't have none of that shit.

To make matters weirder (but I guess better), it's also in the 60s now.
In January.

Like a week ago, it was in the single digits.

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1 hour ago, DrGravitas said:

I just learned our newest team member is 22! o.0

I remember when I started at 23, I was one of the youngest people at the company. Well at this particular location, anyways, which was new at the time and quite small. 7 years... it feels like a lifetime ago :(

Do you haze the new guys?

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Nah, they have enough problems just trying to maintain sanity while staring into corporate bureaucracy. Gotta build up a tolerance against that stuff. Plus being dumped in ineffectual mandatory trainings, grappling with our processes, and (usually) adjusting to a new place where they don't know anybody.

Plus, HR would probably hang me from the atrium balcony.

9 minutes ago, Hux said:

Do you haze the new guys?

 

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20 hours ago, Vae said:

Here? Nah.
We can't have none of that shit.

To make matters weirder (but I guess better), it's also in the 60s now.
In January.

Like a week ago, it was in the single digits.

Here in Texas yesterday it was low 20s to low 40s and today it's 60-70

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1 hour ago, Feelwell the Rabbit said:

So that's what they do to underperforming employees?

 

Hahaha, no. They need too keep the headcount up, no matter how bad the performance is! Hell, once a guy directly insulted a customer in a reply all email, chiding them for chaining reply all just to opt out of something (instead of just sending a simple reply to the original sender) and all he got was moved on to a different project.

But, if you become a legal liability you're toast.

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Meetings suck, right guys?

A year ago I had a temp job packing boxes and we had to attend a fifteen minute meeting before our shift started and another 30 minute meeting after our shift was over. Unpaid. We worked twelve hour shifts, plus another 45 minutes. Sometimes even longer because our supervisor felt the need to chat with the white-collar folks in the office about trivial shit before bothering to dismiss us plebs so we could go home and eat, do chores, and try to get six hours of sleep before the next workday.

You may ask: "Why did you have these meetings and what did you talk about at said meetings?"

Well, it was usually 30 minutes of listening to my middle-aged co-workers flirt and 10 minutes of our supervisor talking about inane shit that wasn't really relevant to our jobs. The rest of the meeting would be comprised of awkward small talk and rhetorical ass-pats.

"Hux, why did you have to attend those meetings?"

Human. Resources. 

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Some psychopath decided to pass me on the little private road that leads to the office building from the main road. Just before a curve over the double yellow lines. I passed his plates off to HR. As slick as the roads were, he easily could have caused an accident, had one of the regular morning delivery trucks been coming the other way.

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14 hours ago, Hux said:

Meetings suck, right guys?

A year ago I had a temp job packing boxes and we had to attend a fifteen minute meeting before our shift started and another 30 minute meeting after our shift was over. Unpaid. We worked twelve hour shifts, plus another 45 minutes. Sometimes even longer because our supervisor felt the need to chat with the white-collar folks in the office about trivial shit before bothering to dismiss us plebs so we could go home and eat, do chores, and try to get six hours of sleep before the next workday.

You may ask: "Why did you have these meetings and what did you talk about at said meetings?"

Well, it was usually 30 minutes of listening to my middle-aged co-workers flirt and 10 minutes of our supervisor talking about inane shit that wasn't really relevant to our jobs. The rest of the meeting would be comprised of awkward small talk and rhetorical ass-pats.

"Hux, why did you have to attend those meetings?"

Human. Resources. 

lol...

At our meetings, we mostly talk about other meetings.

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