General Chat/Time-Waster Thread

[Sourdough]

mods r fageds

Correction, inactive mods r fageds.

[Dr. Doggo]

Correction, inactive mods r fageds.

therefore all mods r fageds

[Sourdough]

therefore all mods r fageds

You just blew my mind.

[Vallium]

therefore all mods r fageds

#Notallmods

[Sarcastic Coffeecup]

They weren't even friends with the person they were talking about. They simply wrote about it because it was a FURRY who died. Get off your high horse.

I think it was a good idea to post it. You never know if there's a friend lurking here who was wondering where they'd gone to.

Furthermore, let me reiterate; this is a furry centric forum, ergo, furry related news come here.

[Frozen Glacier]

I really wish I could've seen this thread. I emphasize immensely with the Frenchies, and I don't want to hear any slandering or otherwise making fun of those who died.

 

[Luka]

I think it was a good idea to post it. You never know if there's a friend lurking here who was wondering where they'd gone to.

Furthermore, let me reiterate; this is a furry centric forum, ergo, furry related news come here.

Indeed. Back in FaF, I didn't really know who Red and Milo were, yet I undertood that people who'd known them online might be thankful for a thread letting them know what happened. I don't see why the same concept didn't apply this time.

[Spot]

Actually now that you bring up Red and Milo, do you lot remember when you were tearing down that one guy, Half-Note? Now take that and add it to the Paris thread.

What I'm saying is, let's not try and justify one thing being worse than the other when they are very much the same. Enough with the double standards.  

 

Edited November 16, 2015 by Mr. Fox

[Mikazuki Marazhu]

I would like to know what is going on here but at this point... I'm too afraid to ask.

[TrishaCat]

After reading this page and seeing the paris thread I'm starting to become convinced that the mods here are too damn soft and keep protecting troublemakers or at the very least give them slaps on the wrist when they damn well could fucking DO something about the whole being shitty about people dying or praising the burning of refugee camps (that didn't actually happen in Calais but whatever).

I'm tempted to leave but honestly, I dunno where to go. SoFurry is too sexual for me.

I just think people should have some more self-control when it comes to what they post. Like, even if one person disagrees with someone else or have problems with what someone says, one doesn't have to get worked up over it or angry or even necessarily feel the need to reply to it. People should be able to have calm discussions on a topic and not insult or make fun of each other. People don't have to agree on something, and I think some should come to understand that that's okay . Someone should be able to have strong feelings on a subject but not be set off by what others say on said subject.

And besides that, people should have the self-control to stay on-topic for serious subjects or not reply to every little thing. A lot of the things posted there weren't directly related to the Paris attacks, and some replies to some posts only incite more arguing and take things further off course from worrying about the events going on in Paris. People don't NEED to inject heated politics into the things they say.

Although while I say all this, I'm guilty of some of it too, admittedly.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Battlechili

[Luka]

Actually now that you bring up Red and Milo, do you lot remember when you were tearing down that one guy, Half-Note? Now take that and add it to the Paris thread.

What I'm saying is, let's not try and justify one thing being worse than the other when they are very much the same. Enough with the double standards.  

 

Half Who?

[Tsuujou]

Half Who?

Half Note was being an ass saying nonsense that no one would care if HE died and was shitting on Red being happy that she had died basically.

[Mikazuki Marazhu]

Half Note was being an ass saying nonsense that no one would care if HE died and was shitting on Red being happy that she had died basically.

I remember that guy... He got suspended for being insensitive.

[Spot]

Half Who?

Some guy that was on FaF saying a whole lot of nasty shit about Red and Milo, and everyone got all up in arms about it. I was trying to make a comparative difference between that thread and the current Paris thread and how deplorable some are acting towards the deceased and all the dehumanizing shit they are saying. Point is, those people are acting no better than that other guy was.

 

Edited November 16, 2015 by Mr. Fox

[Tsuujou]

Think I'm gonna be sick. My stomach is suddenly not feeling good and my mouth is salivating/salting up. What the hell did I eat...

[Mikazuki Marazhu]

Think I'm gonna be sick. My stomach is suddenly not feeling good and my mouth is salivating/salting up. What the hell did I eat...

You just digested some mild poison I suppose?

Food Poisoning?

[Onnes]

After reading this page and seeing the paris thread I'm starting to become convinced that the mods here are too damn soft and keep protecting troublemakers or at the very least give them slaps on the wrist when they damn well could fucking DO something about the whole being shitty about people dying or praising the burning of refugee camps (that didn't actually happen in Calais but whatever).

I'm tempted to leave but honestly, I dunno where to go. SoFurry is too sexual for me.

I'm fairly confident that at least half of the regulars on this forum would fall under the ``troublemaker'' category due to either off-topic derailing, pointless unending arguments, or aggressively stupid hostility. In all likelihood, this troublemaker list would also include some posters you actually like; what we see as unacceptable behavior is almost always subjective. 

So you ban/infract a bunch of posters and lock a bunch of threads. That lost activity is not going to be substituted by the remaining users. Then there's no reason to stay anyway because everything is dead. This is just an observation based on posting patterns over time and the fact that most of the shit posts are usually quarantined in a handful of threads anyway. 

Hell, it would be a lot easier to simply ignore bad posts if so many people didn't feel obligated to reply to them and thereby derail threads into bad things. Ignoring one post is easy, ignoring an entire page of people arguing over the one post is the where I usually give up on the thread and don't bother.

[Sidewalk Surfboard]

Think I'm gonna be sick. My stomach is suddenly not feeling good and my mouth is salivating/salting up. What the hell did I eat...

Don't die

[Kellie Gator]

But don't leave because of a small few. Or do. But I encourage you to not let them get to you. 

So far I've just added some names to my ignore list but it's depressing because I'm a tolerant gal, but since the mods won't TAKE SOME FUCKING ACTION against hate speech despite making empty threats of doing so, I really have no choice. My reports feel like a fucking waste of time like they did on FAF.

I just want rules to be enforced, dammit.

I'm fairly confident that at least half of the regulars on this forum would fall under the ``troublemaker'' category due to either off-topic derailing, pointless unending arguments, or aggressively stupid hostility. In all likelihood, this troublemaker list would also include some posters you actually like; what we see as unacceptable behavior is almost always subjective. 

So you ban/infract a bunch of posters and lock a bunch of threads. That lost activity is not going to be substituted by the remaining users. Then there's no reason to stay anyway because everything is dead. This is just an observation based on posting patterns over time and the fact that most of the shit posts are usually quarantined in a handful of threads anyway. 

Hell, it would be a lot easier to simply ignore bad posts if so many people didn't feel obligated to reply to them and thereby derail threads into bad things. Ignoring one post is easy, ignoring an entire page of people arguing over the one post is the where I usually give up on the thread and don't bother.

Well, if people I like are banned, fair enough, I can interact with them via Skype or Steam. Heck, if I've been too much trouble you can ban me, even if it'd be a bit of a shame.

And ignore? Look, healthy discussion is one thing, but when mods turn a blind eye to FUCKING HATE SPEECH and show a complete disregard for human life, that's not something to fucking ignore, you take action against that shit. We don't have a lot of offenders there, anyway.

Just, I want mods to DO something. Anything. More than they're doing now. Fuck.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Kellie Gator

[Vallium]

Actually now that you bring up Red and Milo, do you lot remember when you were tearing down that one guy, Half-Note? Now take that and add it to the Paris thread.

What I'm saying is, let's not try and justify one thing being worse than the other when they are very much the same. Enough with the double standards.  

 

I remember that. And I know what half-note was trying to say, but he was being a total dick about it.

Essentially he felt that the whole thread was some asspat and it's not like we'd give anyone else that treatment, which isn't a really fair comparison because they happened to be people who made themselves worthy of the attention that they got by so many. While any life that is lost is important, some just mean more to some people based on social influence.

He didn't have to mourn them because he didn't know them...but dear arceus, that idiot could have just kept his mouth shut and stayed off the thread. And if not,  a simple "Sorry for your losses" would have been fine. Some people just do not have any tact and are just selfish!

Edit:

 

Well to change the subject, been looking up wolf species and apparently the name for the Russian wolf is Canis Lupis Communis

 

..that sounds like communist. Haha! Totally got a laugh from that.

[Onnes]

... HATE SPEECH ...

Is that still in the thread, or was it deleted?

[Vallium]

tbh I didn't see much that people were saying 'kill all muslims' and singling them all out as a target of evil. And there wasnt anything except one particular link...

So I don't know which parts are considered hate speech. I think it was mostly different opinions being thrown about on tied issues towards the incident (gun control, borders, ISIS/Islam and how to deal with it)

But I cant recall anything particularly hateful save for the vitriol towards each other

[Kellie Gator]

Is that still in the thread, or was it deleted?

I don't know, I can't say I wanted to find out. But I do know enough to know the mods could've done more.

[Tsuujou]

I don't know, I can't say I wanted to find out. But I do know enough to know the mods could've done more.

I don't feel the mods are bad people, but I can agree with that. Keep in mind though: They probably hand out infractions rather than outright bans and post deletions. It might be a more mild approach, but will result in your desired actions being automatically taken as more malicious posts are made by the same people. 

[Sar]

So, it seems the recent rainstorms that have been having here haven't been giving up - I just checked the bridge to town and there's a good chance it could flow onto the road. Should that happen - it looks like no Uni for Saru. But bloody hell, this is crazy even for autumn.

[Kellie Gator]

I don't feel the mods are bad people, but I can agree with that. Keep in mind though: They probably hand out infractions rather than outright bans and post deletions. It might be a more mild approach, but will result in your desired actions being automatically taken as more malicious posts are made by the same people. 

Oh, I most certainly believe they're good people, I'm just losing confidence in their ability to run this site since infractions don't seem to work and some people have a history of repeatedly going on with the same hate speech bullshit or other asshole behavior.

The moderation is just too mild at this stage, frankly... unless your name is Ayattar, he got banned way too quickly. :U

[Zeke]

I remember people complaining about Ayattar's ban and the Mods treating it as another weasyl forums for being too heavy handed with it, or heavy handed with infractions and such for squashing discussions. There's always going to be that awful medium when people feel that we aren't doing enough, or when the mods are scared that it might promote worse behavior than actually squashing it when it happens.

I like giving people the benefit of the doubt sometimes, it comes part of my current job to even give assholes a chance to become aware of what they are doing isn't beneficial. Maybe I should've banned the ones promoting hate speech instead of infractions instead of making people unhappy. I am sorry that it went on as far as it did and maybe I can do better. 

[Mikazuki Marazhu]

Some people really think the forum owe them big time.

[Spot]

Have you ever farted while taking a piss? It's frightening, isn't it? It's frightening because if you fart the wrong way and your aim ain't quite right it ends up going all over the rim. 

[Zaraphayx]

I remember people complaining about Ayattar's ban and the Mods treating it as another weasyl forums for being too heavy handed with it, or heavy handed with infractions and such for squashing discussions. There's always going to be that awful medium when people feel that we aren't doing enough, or when the mods are scared that it might promote worse behavior than actually squashing it when it happens.

I like giving people the benefit of the doubt sometimes, it comes part of my current job to even give assholes a chance to become aware of what they are doing isn't beneficial. Maybe I should've banned the ones promoting hate speech instead of infractions instead of making people unhappy. I am sorry that it went on as far as it did and maybe I can do better. 

Consider the following:

Most of the users of this forum are socially maladjusted and it doesn't matter what your moderating practices are since you're still nothing but a glorified babysitter for manchildren.

[Dr. Doggo]

Consider the following:
Most of the users of this forum are socially maladjusted and it doesn't matter what your moderating practices are since you're still nothing but a glorified babysitter for manchildren.

can confirm

just letting you know oz, I shat myself again

[Sourdough]

I remember people complaining about Ayattar's ban and the Mods treating it as another weasyl forums for being too heavy handed with it, or heavy handed with infractions and such for squashing discussions. There's always going to be that awful medium when people feel that we aren't doing enough, or when the mods are scared that it might promote worse behavior than actually squashing it when it happens.

I like giving people the benefit of the doubt sometimes, it comes part of my current job to even give assholes a chance to become aware of what they are doing isn't beneficial. Maybe I should've banned the ones promoting hate speech instead of infractions instead of making people unhappy. I am sorry that it went on as far as it did and maybe I can do better. 

Like you told me in another thread, you're not an idiot for hoping for the best in people. You do a good job.

[Zaraphayx]

Guys you have just shown me what a bunch of fucking hypocrites you are by attacking that remembrance thread of the fallen fur.

You go on about weeks moping in self pity and pretentious sadness over Red, but now that someone you didn't know as well dies, you presume the OP was just trying to insinuate that furs are more valuable. Whereas in reality it didn't come even come close to that. Need I remind you that this is a furry centric forum btw?

They were just trying to remember THEIR DEAD FRIEND. Fuck off.

 

Are they really hypocrites though if their grieving for Red and Milo was affected and insincere? As confusing as it may be to you because you pay possess a degree of integrity, empathy, and honor, their behavior is not inconsistent if it's all informed by a cynical and self-interested worldview that makes things more or less tragic depending on proximity to themselves.

[Hewge]

That moment you had no idea, until now, that Ozriel's name is Zeke on this forum...

[Zeke]

can confirm

just letting you know oz, I shat myself again

Please shit in my mouth :V

[Sourdough]

Are they really hypocrites though if their grieving for Red and Milo was affected and insincere? As confusing as it may be to you because you pay possess a degree of integrity, empathy, and honor, their behavior is not inconsistent if it's all informed by a cynical and self-interested worldview that makes things more or less tragic depending on proximity to themselves.

Lurking through Weasyl, the amount of grief expressed seemed ...disproportionate. I remember one member (who started off his time here with some sort of inquisition and was banned soon after) making a colossal deal out of it. I sincerely doubt Red and Milo were close to that many furries there.

[Dr. Doggo]

That moment you had no idea, until now, that Ozriel's name is Zeke on this forum...

I prefer the name Ozzy anyway

Please shit in my mouth :V

the most enthusiastic babysitter ive ever seen

[Zeke]

That moment you had no idea, until now, that Ozriel's name is Zeke on this forum...

I'll change it as soon as I get bored with it.

How about Glorified Babysitter Oz?

[Zaraphayx]

Lurking through Weasyl, the amount of grief expressed seemed ...disproportionate. I remember one member (who started off his time here with some sort of inquisition and was banned soon after) making a colossal deal out of it. I sincerely doubt Red and Milo were close to that many furries there.

I used to talk to both Red and Milo on a daily basis before I exiled myself from online social mediums to "figure myself out" and what ultimately brought me back was the news of their death. I never spoke much about how it effected me because I felt it wasn't my place to publicly grieve for people who I probably wouldn't have been justified in calling my friends even if we were very well acquainted, but I felt a lot of regret. Mostly that I took their and everyone else's life and presence for granted and assumed they'd all be back there where I found them whenever I decided to come back and pick up where I left off. I reached out to a lot of those people who I used to talk to, or at the very least extended the invitation for them to get in touch with me at their convenience.

The guy you're talking about with the "disproportionate" response was the only person who had any interest in rekindling a friendship, and while you might find his posts dramatic, you can't really understand the scope of them because they were only snapshots of the entirety of what he was going through which I can assure you is very real.

 

[Kellie Gator]

I remember people complaining about Ayattar's ban and the Mods treating it as another weasyl forums for being too heavy handed with it, or heavy handed with infractions and such for squashing discussions. There's always going to be that awful medium when people feel that we aren't doing enough, or when the mods are scared that it might promote worse behavior than actually squashing it when it happens.

I like giving people the benefit of the doubt sometimes, it comes part of my current job to even give assholes a chance to become aware of what they are doing isn't beneficial. Maybe I should've banned the ones promoting hate speech instead of infractions instead of making people unhappy. I am sorry that it went on as far as it did and maybe I can do better. 

At least you understand, and I'm sorry I've been so... angry, frustrated, and yelling at ya. Just, I'm passionate about this place, I see potential.

It must also be lonely for you as a mod, I don't see the others doing much. D:

[Mentova]

At least you understand, and I'm sorry I've been so... angry, frustrated, and yelling at ya. Just, I'm passionate about this place, I see potential.

It must also be lonely for you as a mod, I don't see the others doing much. D:

I'm too busy doing... things.

[Sourdough]

I used to talk to both Red and Milo on a daily basis before I exiled myself from online social mediums to "figure myself out" and what ultimately brought me back was the news of their death. I never spoke much about how it effected me because I felt it wasn't my place to publicly grieve for people who I probably wouldn't have been justified in calling my friends even if we were very well acquainted, but I felt a lot of regret. Mostly that I took their and everyone else's life and presence for granted and assumed they'd all be back there where I found them whenever I decided to come back and pick up where I left off. I reached out to a lot of those people who I used to talk to, or at the very least extended the invitation for them to get in touch with me at their convenience.
The guy you're talking about with the "disproportionate" response was the only person who had any interest in rekindling a friendship, and while you might find his posts dramatic, you can't really understand the scope of them because they were only snapshots of the entirety of what he was going through which I can assure you is very real.

 

 

I hadn't talked to either of them for years, it was still a shock though. Decided not to hold grudges against anyone I have history with here, so I joined this place. Life's too short for that kind of bullshit. Still need to recontact peeps. Like you say, it's easy to take everyone for granted.

You're right, I don't know or understand the scope of That User's posts. I won't make assumptions, but there had to be a better way to go about it.

[Kellie Gator]

I'm too busy doing... things.

Slutfox behavior, I bet. >:[

[Sourdough]

Slutfox behavior, I bet. >:[

Bet you it's that Yiffalicious thing.

[Dr. Doggo]

why am i not a mod, im on a lot

i will remove furbab

[DevilishlyHandsome49]

Got this note back from a classmate after I shared a few of my stories with them. Made me feel good

[Phausk]

So Charlie Sheen is HIV positive apparently

[Kalmor]

It must also be lonely for you as a mod, I don't see the others doing much. D:

I sort of had an unofficial break from things, I assumed that since the post frequency wasn't like it was it wouldn't be much of a problem.

Boy was I wrong, hence the gif I posted. :V

[Alexxx-Returns]

Have you ever farted while taking a piss? It's frightening, isn't it? It's frightening because if you fart the wrong way and your aim ain't quite right it ends up going all over the rim. 

As a lady I can do whatever the hell I want on the toilet. I never realised that farting while pissing was so risky for dudes =O

[FenrirDarkWolf]

I have no fucking idea what I'm doing