Hoi! Nice art stylez! Can i Haz free artz?

[Toshabi]

Stahp!

 

My commission prices for sketchies are there and I open for commissshuns every other week. Why you gotto add me on tellergramz and ask for free art from me? I bet you you're the kind of kiddo that goes UGH MOOOOOM I DONT WANNA MOW THE LAWN when your parents ask you to do free labor, so why do that to a dumpy artist like me? And after you added me and literally went on a bitch rant about how you hate the things I like too just cause your Mr. DJ Coolio with your faggy ass fursona and fruity reference sheet you got for free for taking it up the ass by Popufur artist #69. Well guess what bucko? I'm immune to your compliments and suckupery. Toshabi is a strong confident croc who need no popufurity and doesn't intend on putting up with your furry bullshit. He's hamming the fandom, but he still Toshabi who will bite your buns if you flaunt them in his face.

 

 

tl;dr- PAY YER ARTISTS AND DONT EXPECT THEM TO BE YOUR ART BITCHES CAUSE YOU SAID THEY HAVE A NICE BUTT (I really do)

[MuttButt]

begging for free art is lame

I'm a cheapskate tho so I'm always in the prowl for request threads and stuff

[Naesaki]

There's one guy I've seen on FA uploads a lot of requests he gets and he doesn't even go to the effort of giving them a title he just calls his uploads requests, he seems to be searching non-stop for free request artists and raffles and even has a massive journal detailing every artist who's drew him.

I don't normally judge or give my opinion on a person's fursona but it just reminds me of a really bad roger rabbit rip-off.

-__-

 

Edited February 2, 2016 by Naesaki

[Recel]

How dare you, Toshabi?

Asking money for art? It took you like... five minutes, so it can't be that hard to do, so you should do it for free! Plus, drawing for free gets you exposure! That's all artists need, exposure, not money! And drawing isn't a real job anyway, you shouldn't get paid for it! I'm also a totally swell and nice guy, so you should draw free stuff for me! Especially if I ask nicely! Your art doesn't have the quality to get paid for, so you should draw for free! Why should I pay you money when I can get that art from another artist for free, so you should draw it for free too!
And I'm starting to exhaust the stupid reasons I know of people who want artists to draw free art for them... so you should draw for free!

[Maug]

16 minutes ago, Recel said:

How dare you, Toshabi?

Asking money for art? It took you like... five minutes, so it can't be that hard to do, so you should do it for free! Plus, drawing for free gets you exposure! That's all artists need, exposure, not money! And drawing isn't a real job anyway, you shouldn't get paid for it! I'm also a totally swell and nice guy, so you should draw free stuff for me! Especially if I ask nicely! Your art doesn't have the quality to get paid for, so you should draw for free! Why should I pay you money when I can get that art from another artist for free, so you should draw it for free too!
And I'm starting to exhaust the stupid reasons I know of people who want artists to draw free art for them... so you should draw for free!

 

reminds me of this:

I find it interesting that i'm still getting asked to do requests despite the fact I put in bold 'I do not take requests'.  I find it's best to be polite and explain that it's my only source of income so I can't draw for free. They usually are cool with that,however, your mileage may vary

@Toshabi Hello Toshabi, how are the animation classes going?

[Hewge]

I still don't get asked requests or for free art

I must be doing something really wrong :v

[Chrysocyon]

2 minutes ago, Hewge said:

I still don't get asked requests or for free art

I must be doing something really wrong :v

Hoi! Nice art stylez! Can i Haz free artz?

[Newt]

16 minutes ago, Hewge said:

I still don't get asked requests or for free art

I must be doing something really wrong :v

Spare some art for an old war veteran?

[Maug]

28 minutes ago, Hewge said:

I still don't get asked requests or for free art

I must be doing something really wrong :v

I seriously doubt that, I bet they harass you all the time for free art.

[Toshabi]

1 hour ago, Hewge said:

I still don't get asked requests or for free art

I must be doing something really wrong :v

Not bara enough.

[PastryOfApathy]

2 hours ago, Maug said:

 

reminds me of this:

>This does not means

Stay in school kids.

[Maug]

1 minute ago, PastryOfApathy said:

>This does not means

Stay in school kids.

Hahaha

[GamingGal]

I admit I sometimes prowl for free art or people taking requests, but half the time I'll do my best to toss them a few dollars for their time. And lately I've actually been able to pay for art, and you know what? I have been. I go and generally commission the people who did requests for me since that's what they do them for: to get interest and potentially new clients.

I think it's really rude when someone literally trawls for free art, though. Like, that's all they have in their gallery and seem to not care what it is so long as it's free.

Sorry that happened to you, Toshi. Tell him to step off  That or give him a super shitty sketch and be like "here's your free artz kthnxbai!"

Edited February 3, 2016 by GamingGal

[Maug]

23 minutes ago, Rhíulchabán said:

But Toshabi, don't you realize that you're fans will die and wither up if you don't feed them a steady supply of free art? It's their food-source, denying them that is like ripping the food from a starving child's mouth!

How could you be so soulless, you monster.

dat face. I shall have nightmares tonight

Also Toshabi is a monster.. a pocket monster...

[Bakari]

Constant issue x.x I can't find a paying commissioner in a sea of people, but ERRYBODEH wants me to make them some manner of gift art or has a suggestion for something they want to see drawn...that just happens to involve their characters. It takes me WEEKS to do a pic, why on earth would I just hand it to you on a platter when I could be drawing fun things for myself or getting paid for it or doing a trade for something nice instead?

*shakes cane* Get offa mah page! Damn whippersnappers!

[Vallium]

2 hours ago, GamingGal said:

think it's really rude when someone literally trawls for free art, though. Like, that's all they have in their gallery

Um errr...most art that isnt mine in my gallery is free. Theres very little I paid for because Im broke '-w-

I like to think I make up for it by drawing my own shiz or being That One Guy™ that draws free artstuff but isnt even good at art and so all the even worse not-artists who are also broke are actually desperate enough to want free art from me

 

And so the circle of life continues

[GamingGal]

2 minutes ago, WolfNightV4X1 said:

Um errr...most art that isnt mine in my gallery is free. Theres very little I paid for because Im broke '-w-

I like to think I make up for it by drawing my own shiz or being That One Guy™ that draws free artstuff but isnt even good at art and so all the even worse not-artists who are also broke are actually desperate enough to want free art from me

I have a a few request pieces as well, and I see nothing wrong with having free/request art in your gallery, but at least you draw some stuff! And so long as you don't turn a blind eye to those artists if/when you actually have money to purchase art, then I don't see an issue with. And even then, I'm talking about the really bad trolls who are just there for the free art and will unwatch or unfollow or leave a stream the second the chance for free stuff is gone.

[Bakari]

14 minutes ago, GamingGal said:

And even then, I'm talking about the really bad trolls who are just there for the free art and will unwatch or unfollow or leave a stream the second the chance for free stuff is gone.

This. Very much this.

Or they pop into stream expecting free things despite you saying that you're working on personal art...and explaining what it is. They leave in a huff after a couple once realizing that wasn't going to be the case....or they lurk the entire time doing nothing at all until the end.

Edited February 3, 2016 by Bakari

[GamingGal]

2 minutes ago, Bakari said:

This. Very much this.

Or they pop into stream expecting free things despite you saying that you're working on personal art...and explaining what it is. They leave in a huff after a couple once realizing that wasn't going to be the case....or they lurk the entire time doing nothing at all until the end.

Those are the worst. I hate when I'm in a stream to watch good art and you see someone pop in, ask about freebs and get a negative, then leave. Oh it irks my soul. OH! And those people who DO get a freeb in stream and have the damnedest most complicated character. I literally watched this poor artist get chided by the person getting the free art. "It needs this. Do this that way. You need to fix this. Add a background and wings." I felt so bad for them.

[Bakari]

3 minutes ago, GamingGal said:

Those are the worst. I hate when I'm in a stream to watch good art and you see someone pop in, ask about freebs and get a negative, then leave. Oh it irks my soul. OH! And those people who DO get a freeb in stream and have the damnedest most complicated character. I literally watched this poor artist get chided by the person getting the free art. "It needs this. Do this that way. You need to fix this. Add a background and wings." I felt so bad for them.

 

Constant. Issue. x.x I get completely empty streams for hours on end and then finally a glimmer of hope, someone popped in! A companion! YAY! Nope. Another art mooch.

Oh my god. That was me. HER NECK IS TOO THICK, SHE LOOKS LIKE A FERAL. THAT ARMOR IS WRONG. Etc. BUDDY I DON'T CARE, IT'S FREE AND THAT'S MY ART STYLE! *SHAKEFIST!*

[AlexInsane]

I used to commission on occasion, but since I was never very invested in the fandom, I just stopped bothering. It was a pain to have to dig out references, write details, think about what I wanted - and I was aware that it was another human being I was making do all this too. 

Besides, all the artists I wanted to commission were WAY too expensive. I mean, they can charge that if they like. That's their business. I just can't afford it - $200 for a picture that's just going to take up space on my computer and I occasionally pleasure myself to? I'll get a TV instead, thanks. 

[Wrecker]

from a super-pro artist like myself, you just got to make art that is so incredible that nobody even wants to attempt to purchase it... me and picasso go way back...

[Deskai]

Its just as bad when you are getting a stream commission and someone begs you to add their char to your commission but you to pay for it too.

I pay for it in full cause the second person happens to be a friend of mines, who can pay me back when they can. Yes I may do it a lot but it doesnt mean everyone gets a freebie, it just means my friends get a freebie.

and since I'm a colourist I don't have to deal with folks asking for me to do freebies, as the instant I say "hey I'm spending my time colouring these art for you guys so maybe pay me?" they all leave and go to the next freebie colourist.

Edited February 3, 2016 by Deskai

[Guest]

For some reason some people actually did ask for free art from me. My art mustn't be that bad then... Or the requesters must be desperate :v 

I'm a lot more inclined to do requests for close acquaintances or people I like in general (duh). Actually, they're the only ones I'd do free art for. I don't simply draw shit, investing time and effort for the first John Doe that passes by

[Rassah]

Oh the irony from the furry fandom...

 

Hoi! Nice doctoring styles! Can I has free healthcare?

 

tl;dr - PAY YER DOCTORS AND DONT EXPECT THEM TO BE YOUR MED BITCHES CAUSE YOU SAID THEY HAVE A NICE BUTT

But no, that's totally different. Because we deserve free doctoring.

[evan]

22 minutes ago, Rassah said:

Oh the irony from the furry fandom...

 

Hoi! Nice doctoring styles! Can I has free healthcare?

 

tl;dr - PAY YER DOCTORS AND DONT EXPECT THEM TO BE YOUR MED BITCHES CAUSE YOU SAID THEY HAVE A NICE BUTT

But no, that's totally different. Because we deserve free doctoring.

and where exactly did someone reflect these views to the point that youd think this would be relevant?

 

[Bakari]

5 minutes ago, evan said:

and where exactly did someone reflect these views to the point that youd think this would be relevant?

Despite it being a pretty big stretch I think that by comparing a Dr. to an artisan, what he's trying to say is that an artist is a specialist who, while not saving someone's life or having a PhD, per-se, still deserves to be respected and paid for their skilled trade. This is especially true if you want something out of them and they don't know you from a hole in the wall.

[Astus]

plz sir, can i haz more free arts? I promise i'll be good and do my homework D: D: <3 <3 ^-^ ^-^

 

I've never had this problem, though I imagine it can be very very annoying... Maybe you should put in big letters, in every language imaginable, that you don't give out free art... that way people won't ask

[Pignog]

i like doing occasional free art for ppl because it brightens their day and it's fulfilling for me, even if it's just a bad doodle. that said i really only do it for friends/acquaintances online, and my devart inbox has at least a few messages from furries ive never met who, based on their profiles, scrape devart to squeeze free art outta ppl.

i dont feel competent enough yet to do paid commissions (though im thankful for the one im doing right now) and i doubt it'll ever make up a significant part of my income, but i have a lot of respect for you folks who can make it work. plz pay for their art nerds

[Mikazuki Marazhu]

21 hours ago, Hewge said:

I still don't get asked requests or for free art

I must be doing something really wrong :v

Fuck art! I want your dick pictures!

[Catilda Lily]

I've done a few free art pieces for some random people who liked the little gif I did a few years ago. Other than that I sometimes draw surprise art for friends, or do art trades with people.

[Wrecker]

12 hours ago, Rassah said:

12 hours ago, Rassah said:

Oh the irony from the furry fandom...

 

Hoi! Nice doctoring styles! Can I has free healthcare?

 

tl;dr - PAY YER DOCTORS AND DONT EXPECT THEM TO BE YOUR MED BITCHES CAUSE YOU SAID THEY HAVE A NICE BUTT

But no, that's totally different. Because we deserve free doctoring.

Oh the irony from the furry fandom...

 

Hoi! Nice doctoring styles! Can I has free healthcare?

 

tl;dr - PAY YER DOCTORS AND DONT EXPECT THEM TO BE YOUR MED BITCHES CAUSE YOU SAID THEY HAVE A NICE BUTT

But no, that's totally different. Because we deserve free doctoring.

just goona plant a big ol' one of these here

healthcare is a little fucking different than junk-ass furry art, and that's a stupid example. how many bitcoins does it cost to get an organ transplant?

 

[Xaende]

Srsly. I don't even have enough time for my own art, let alone what somebody else wants. Not that the occasional request really bothers me. In fact, they give me a warm fuzzy feelings despite the fact that the answer is no. Reminds me of when I first stumbled across the fandom, and art trades and requests were more common. There seemed to be less separation between artist and fan 15 years ago than there is today.

So yeah, I'd just take it as a compliment and let them down nicely if you don't do requests.

[Azure]

does every thread you make start with a dumb meme?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Azure said:

does every thread you make start with a dumb meme?

Toshabi is love, toshabi is life

[yell0wf0x]

Hey Toshabi! I like yer thread. Can I has free arts now? I would like to have your character porking mine in the most twisted way ye feel like. 

 

I can also do trades! I'll give ye pics of my buns in return.

[Terminal7]

Ok Toshabi, I'll give you three payments of $0.00 plus a tip of $0.20.

Also, you have a nice ass.

[Rassah]

On 2/3/2016 at 11:27 AM, evan said:

and where exactly did someone reflect these views to the point that youd think this would be relevant?

 

Look at the people who hit Like on your post. They and seemingly the vast majority of the furry fandom want free shit #FeeltheBern but don't see the irony in having a problem with artists not getting paid. Hell, they even bitch about a lack of living wage, but are fine with no wage for things they want. Oh, it won't be free, it'll be at someone else's expense through taxes? Well why can't art be at the artist's expense?

13 hours ago, Wrecker said:

just goona plant a big ol' one of these here

And I'm just gonna plant one of these here

14 hours ago, Wrecker said:

healthcare is a little fucking different than junk-ass furry art, and that's a stupid example. 

Yeah hell healthcare is different! You get what you pay for, and you don't want to skimp on healthcare. You don't die if you pay your furry artist a shit amount and get a shit commission.

[Sidewalk Surfboard]

The one time I decided to take requests, some dude came up to me and asked for weird size regression fetish art. I haven't done free requests since then :V

[AlexInsane]

Hello? You do free art? I'd like a scat guro inflation watersports incest mpreg pic with 11 characters that are each sparklefoxes with wings and dicknipples. Oh, and could you be done with that in an hour? I have a facial to get to. 

[evan]

2 hours ago, Rassah said:

Look at the people who hit Like on your post. They and seemingly the vast majority of the furry fandom want free shit #FeeltheBern but don't see the irony in having a problem with artists not getting paid. Hell, they even bitch about a lack of living wage, but are fine with no wage for things they want. Oh, it won't be free, it'll be at someone else's expense through taxes? Well why can't art be at the artist's expense?

And I'm just gonna plant one of these here

Yeah hell healthcare is different! You get what you pay for, and you don't want to skimp on healthcare. You don't die if you pay your furry artist a shit amount and get a shit commission.

okay!

[Pignog]

16 hours ago, Wrecker said:

just goona plant a big ol' one of these here

healthcare is a little fucking different than junk-ass furry art, and that's a stupid example. how many bitcoins does it cost to get an organ transplant?

 

NO WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOULL SUMMON H-

2 hours ago, Rassah said:

Look at the people who hit Like on your post. They and seemingly the vast majority of the furry fandom want free shit #FeeltheBern but don't see the irony in having a problem with artists not getting paid. Hell, they even bitch about a lack of living wage, but are fine with no wage for things they want. Oh, it won't be free, it'll be at someone else's expense through taxes? Well why can't art be at the artist's expense?

And I'm just gonna plant one of these here

Yeah hell healthcare is different! You get what you pay for, and you don't want to skimp on healthcare. You don't die if you pay your furry artist a shit amount and get a shit commission.

rassah if you didnt pay for your av with chuckee cheese tokens or whatever, please tell me you at least paid the iron price and murdered his ass for it

[malibu]

I rarely get requests. In fact, I think I've only gotten two so far. I do open free sketches from time to time though, under the condition that it's just a headshot, so I don't get any weird fetishy stuff being asked for.

[Rassah]

8 hours ago, Pignog said:

Rassah if you didnt pay for your av with chuckee cheese tokens or whatever, please tell me you at least paid the iron price and murdered his ass for it

Paid about $75 for it. Like House Lanister, I always pay my debts. And I try my best to not take anyone's money or other services for free either. The world is a bit more fair when everyone's work is valued and appreciated, and everyone is compensated for their good deeds, when if with things other than money (get your minds out of the gutter). So pay your artists! Or at least do something nice for them in return.

[Sarcastic Coffeecup]

I don't like asking for free art. On occasion I might do so, but generally I don't even visit the free art section.

I think I've asked for free art like, twice in two years. I can't remember who it was, but on FAF there was a guy who jumped in on every opportunity and it was really appalling and greedy

[Wrecker]

On 2016-02-04 at 11:30 AM, Rassah said:

Look at the people who hit Like on your post. They and seemingly the vast majority of the furry fandom want free shit #FeeltheBern but don't see the irony in having a problem with artists not getting paid. Hell, they even bitch about a lack of living wage, but are fine with no wage for things they want. Oh, it won't be free, it'll be at someone else's expense through taxes? Well why can't art be at the artist's expense?

And I'm just gonna plant one of these here

Yeah hell healthcare is different! You get what you pay for, and you don't want to skimp on healthcare. You don't die if you pay your furry artist a shit amount and get a shit commission.

you think the value of the canadian dollar has a whole bunch to do with what we pay into healthcare? our doctors collect the same currency we do... do you have some kind of backseat idea that there's going to be a bunch of canadian doctors jumping ship to make money in the states, or what the fuck does that graph have to do with anything?

a good friend of mine underwent a procedure that is valued at ~$800,000 a bit better than a year ago, and guess what, she's still alive. she sure as fuck wouldn't be if she had to fork out the cash.

too bad you shelled out 75 bucks for that avatar, because you sure as shit didn't get what you paid for.

[Newt]

How did the topic turn to politics?

*looks at who's posting*

Oh.

[Rassah]

7 hours ago, Wrecker said:

you think the value of the canadian dollar has a whole bunch to do with what we pay into healthcare?

Nah, it has to do with people wanting too much free shit. That tends to make everything become worthless over time. Pay your doctors, and your artists, otherwise you end up with shit quality over time.

8 hours ago, Wrecker said:

a good friend of mine underwent a procedure that is valued at ~$800,000 a bit better than a year ago, and guess what, she's still alive.

Yay, whooptie shit. Free shit works great before it turns to shit. That graph may be an indication of that. USSR, Cuba, and Venezuela have free medicine too. And too much other free shit. Do you support getting free art from artists too?

8 hours ago, Wrecker said:

too bad you shelled out 75 bucks for that avatar, because you sure as shit didn't get what you paid for.

The avatar is just a small crop of a much bigger picture, by a fairly well known and very good artist. Was totally worth it. Stop being greedy bitches, and pay for the shit you use.

[AshleyAshes]

On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 1:30 PM, Rassah said:

With Canada being an export economy the Canadian dollar being cheaper than the US dollar has been a source of strength for the Canadian economy.  This dip is not the anomaly, the Canadian dollar has floated around this point for the last 30 years or so.  The anomaly was when the US dollar tanked and met par with the Canadian dollar around 2009-2011.  This on the other hand that is a return to normalcy, the stronger Canadian dollar has actually been a PROBLEM for the Canadian economy.

Secondly, I find it strange that you constantly equate the value of the Canadian dollar to the US dollar as a way to take shots at Canada.  Mostly Canadians do not look at their money and think of it as how much American money it can buy.  They think of how much food it can buy, how much rent it can pay, and other things, which are not reflected in this.

 

[Pignog]

Disengage!! pull up thread, pull up!!!