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On 9/18/2016 at 8:02 PM, Fossa-Boy said:

But again, I'm not a big fan of fantasy in general, and things like Games of Thrones also hold just about zero appeal.

Haven't had much interest in it either. The fact that you can't get attached to characters because there's a good chance they're going to die seems a bit unappealing. I also find it hard to get into overly depressive/sadistic pieces of fiction.

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5 minutes ago, Glowing Glass said:

There is a chance they won't inherit it at all.

Then there's a chance they will be just as kinky if not more than you.

Both are pretty equal chances.

There's a 50% chance you're right and there's a 50% chance that this is a flawed understanding of statistics. :V

 

there's a lot of kinks out there in the world I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them was genetic

 

Rather than any individual fetish being passed on genetically, what if one's liability to develop fetishes has some genetic component?

Much as addiction to heroine isn't passed down genetically, but a person's liability to develop drug addiction in general can be.

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1 hour ago, Socketosis said:

Haven't had much interest in it either. The fact that you can't get attached to characters because there's a good chance they're going to die seems a bit unappealing. I also find it hard to get into overly depressive/sadistic pieces of fiction.

True. I tried to watch the few seasons with my mate, and all I can recall is this one guy had this goofy looking crown, like the one Burger King wears, and you can get paper versions of at Burger King. And then, how people just died, and new ones appeared in such rapid succession, that it was all in all hard to care for any of them, as there was so little room for character development. Not my cup of tea, I guess!

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The argument that fetishes can be inherited is insane. People who develop drug addictions hereditary are doing so because they have an "addictive personality". Their brain is wired to need and want that dopamine boost or whatever it is that they're addicted to. They're not born at risk of being addicted to oxycontin because their parents were drug addicts (this is of course excluding babies born under the influence of an addictive mother), and they're not going to go through life craving a specific drug.

fetishes can be learned (it's been shown that there is a correlation between spanking/physical punishment as children and BDSM when adults) but that dopamine boost is not specifically for feet, or muscles, or fat women or whatever, you develop a taste for what you like and that becomes a learned source of dopamine boost and so you repeat it again.

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1 minute ago, Glowing Glass said:

This is just yelling at me to write an entire science nerd essay about this now.

Go ahead.

The argument that fetishes can be inherited is insane. People who develop drug addictions hereditary are doing so because they have an "addictive personality". Their brain is wired to need and want that dopamine boost or whatever it is that they're addicted to. They're not born at risk of being addicted to oxycontin because their parents were drug addicts (this is of course excluding babies born under the influence of an addictive mother), and they're not going to go through life craving a specific drug.

fetishes can be learned (it's been shown that there is a correlation between spanking/physical punishment as children and BDSM when adults) but that dopamine boost is not specifically for feet, or muscles, or fat women or whatever, you develop a taste for what you like and that becomes a learned source of dopamine boost and so you repeat it again.

I'm not proposing that individual fetishes can be inherited. There is probably a good argument that the likelihood of a child developing fetishes at all could have a hereditary component, though (quoting your example, what do you think constructs a brain that can develop pavlovian responses, if not genes?)

Individual partialisms though really could have a genetic component.

 

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Just now, Gamedog said:

I don't believe that there's a chemical or gene or whatever that causes people to be born thinking that shoes are hot.

Derp of course not. However people with a certain combination of genes may be more predisposed than others to develop foot based fetishes.

There's certainly a combination of genes which direct people to become interested in genitals and to select for certain traits in potential mates. I personally wonder whether many fetishes might be generated when these genes inadvertently establish an incorrect erotic target.

An example in birds is the coupling of the gene for tail length to sexual appetite, resulting in birds which deliberately seek out mates with extraordinarily long and ridiculous tails. This is known as 'run-away selection'.

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15 minutes ago, Gamedog said:

I don't believe that there's a chemical or gene or whatever that causes people to be born thinking that shoes are hot.

There isn't 

Well in a way there kind of is

But there actually isn't in another way

Theres a bunch of different things that can go different ways depending on more stuff that you can't really observe with today's technology since it might be normally neurological or it could be brain damage or maybe it's the gender of the child and which child of the family it is and...

 

Its complex ok? 

It wont make sense without a giant explanation about how it could or couldn't work or why it works or doesn't work.

7 minutes ago, Saxon said:

There's certainly a combination of genes which direct people to become interested in genitals and to select for certain traits in potential mates. I personally wonder whether many fetishes might be generated when these genes inadvertently establish an incorrect erotic target.

It's something like this. Fetishes can be made out of unusually developed areas of the brain which are probably caused by weird society technology things. By society and technology things I mean stuff like pollution. It's not actually pollution that causes genetic mutations but it goes under the same category of technology stuff.

I'm sure you get the point

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2 minutes ago, Socketosis said:

TIL: Birds are into hyper.

I had not thought about it that way, but that's a perfectly valid way of looking at it really.

It's something like this. Fetishes can be made out of unusually developed areas of the brain which are probably caused by weird society technology things. By society and technology things I mean stuff like pollution. It's not actually pollution that causes genetic mutations but it goes under the same category of technology stuff.

I'm sure you get the point

 

No, actually I have no idea what your point is. :\

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What kinds of birds are they? Many birds have ridiculous tails (peacocks, birds of paradise, etc) that includes fancy plumage to attract mates. Birds who can't maintain nice plumage and have dull feathers are generally unhealthy

Many birds like grackles have longer tails (more like the birds on the right) than sparrows and they survive just fine.

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ITT: Nerd debates for shit that doesn't merit nerd debates, in a thread that isn't for nerd debates. GG team.

OT: I feel like my patience is in a rapid decline. And by "rapid decline" I mean barreling down into the atmosphere, screaming, and on fire.
I wear satin gloves about issues a lot more than people or I will ever give myself credit for.
But goddamn I'm getting sick of it.
Part of it concerns me. Part of me just doesn't give the slightest semblance of a shit, because I've given way too many of those, already.

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4 minutes ago, Gamedog said:

What kinds of birds are they? Many birds have ridiculous tails (peacocks, birds of paradise, etc) that includes fancy plumage to attract mates. Birds who can't maintain nice plumage and have dull feathers are generally unhealthy

Many birds like grackles have longer tails (more like the birds on the right) than sparrows and they survive just fine.

The maladaptive quality of the trait is confirmed by observing the animals being studied. For example one might come across a purple species of squirrel and discover that the males with the brightest colour are the most likely to be killed by birds, but also the most likely to mate.
It is possible that female squirrels regard the brightly coloured males as having superior health, because they survive in spite of a handicap that makes them more likely to be pursued by predators. (the same as your peacock example)
Runaway selection need not always operate in concert with handicap-selection, but the two seem very complimentary, don't they?

Anyway, relating this to the discussion about the development of fetishes, there are clearly genes in the animal kingdom which direct animals to develop very complicated courtship behaviours or to become obsessed with the anatomically hyperbolic, so the notion of an 'innate fetish' cannot be discounted out of hand.
I don't think most human fetishes are like this though; I prefer an 'incorrect identification of erotic target' idea. I can open a new thread and explain it if you want.

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On 9/19/2016 at 0:32 PM, Johanna Waya said:

I'm going to be gone for awhile, I don't know how long or if I will be back.... I just feel I am incredibly toxic and don't want to hurt the ones I love with my problems.

Goodbye.

 

I hope you feel better soon. I always liked seeing you about, come back when you feel ready. I often feel the same way, even if I don't go into too many of my problems here; that could take up a forum of it's own. Be easy on yourself; I always saw ya as a lot more sweet than toxic.

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I grew up watching ads for Cats, the musical, on TV. I sang songs from it in school, know the characters' names, can quote some of the dialog, and own the soundtrack on CD. Heck, I even have a cat. The thing is, of all the musicals I've seen, Cats isn't one of them. Maybe someday.

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2 minutes ago, Xaende said:

I grew up watching ads for Cats, the musical, on TV. I sang songs from it in school, know the characters' names, can quote some of the dialog, and own the soundtrack on CD. Heck, I even have a cat. The thing is, of all the musicals I've seen, Cats isn't one of them. Maybe someday.

Look on the bright side: through the furry fandom, you see lunatics pretending to be animals on a daily basis

That's what I call getting your money's worth

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I have a tendency to provide my task estimates at work in multiples of 3. I also tend to round the values of numeric parameters in 3D projects to multiples of 3. In fact, if a number has any leeway in choosing its value, I will generally aim for multiples of 3 or numbers that are kind of like multiples of 3 or just contain a bunch of multiples of 3, if it won't be a huge inconvenience.

 I might genuinely a problem ._.;

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4 hours ago, Cannakitty said:

Feeling kinda worthless and just all around bad. Just terrible. God-awful. Like I'm eating a shit-sandwich. Something artistic usually cheers me up but right I'm just feeling so meh. Wish someone would just put me to sleep with chloroform and a hand cloth.

 

Trying to sleep on such situations is not always bad. 

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3 hours ago, Saxon said:

I have considered waxing, instead of shaving, my body. However, I am too embarrassed to buy waxing strips at the shop because the branding is outwardly feminine.

Tell them you're getting it for your girlfriend. They'll think it's cute and you can totally get in their pants and terminate the fuck outta that dank puss, bro.

Wait... you live in the UK. THERE IS NO GOOD PUSS. 

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25 minutes ago, Jtrekkie said:


That is correct. There is no good puss in Europe at all.

Well, there is some good puss in Turkey. When the realized what they had they made their pusses a national treasure.

The entire Mediterranean is filled with HQ puss, but UK is well known for its particularly weak puss game, as are Germany and the Netherlands. Scandinavia has some pretty top puss, tho, bro. Germany and UK have very high bad/good puss ratio. Their socialist puss economy is weak, and their cock economies are also struggling very badly. In fact, their cock economies might even be worse than their overall puss economies.

East Asia still leads the world in overall puss exports, but the Russian puss economy is gaining steam due to their small domestic market and overabundance of top notch puss. The biggest problem facing the Russian puss trade atm are safety concerns due to possible radioactive materials found within the puss.

I was really interested in the rising Latin American puss trade up until the recent political fiascos in Brazil. Hopefully we can see unique developments in tech and trading puss from these rising stars.

My father was a puss trader his whole life. It's all he ever talked about and I have remembered many things about the global puss economy. My dad even had a rare sideways Chinese puss that was made over 1500 years ago that he kept in a safe with his gun.

It's noice to meet another cunt connoisseur. Would you be interested in joining my most recent puss project? I think I can break the bank by discreetly smuggling non-FDA approved puss to the US due to the local puss inflation, but I'm having a hard time negotiating with these hard-nosed black market Chinese puss dealers who keep trying to undercut me.

Oh, have you invested anything into bitpuss™? Many of my colleagues think the digital puss trade is the next big thing.

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