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That's an interesting take on the phenomenon.


I've tended to view it as students looking towards universities as essentially an extended home and family, with the expectation that life there will be completely supportive and inclusive. Of course, the reality is that universities are giant, sprawling institutions with many different cultures and aims, and it's entirely up to the individual adults to choose how they want to integrate themselves into that institution and its community. Once this reality intrudes on students' expectations, they look to rationalize why this is so without admitting to themselves that their initial expectations were erroneous.

At the same time, these students want to mold the university into what they think it ought to be. The problem becomes that there are things there that make them uncomfortable and there are people there who are very different from them in culture, motivation, and appearance. And so those are the things they fight against. The students demand that uncomfortable things be censored, that programs they align with are added and made mandatory, and that more people like them are included at the expense of people unlike them.

 That perspective does also make sense too. It adheres to the idea that kids don't always understand that their home life is not reflective of every environment they end up living in, and being a sheltered child can lead to misrepresentations of what is okay in the outside world. And then what you're describing is actually relevant because it's basically the inability to accept a reality; self-certainty and the inability to accept outside influences which leads to self-destruction. 

I think what you're describing is just becoming the American challenge in general. When you look at things, there's been such a consistent problem accepting those who are not "true" Americans into society, and today's views on Muslims only exacerbate that fact. People forget that everything that is good to them is not good to everyone and it becomes a dilemma of mindset that distorts what the society we live in needs in order to grow.

I don't know. That's just what I see when this kinda happens.

Can't seem to find the "things you don't understand" thread so I'll just dump it here. I don't understand how you can be a part of something that you hate.

There was a lot of music that I did not remotely enjoy playing that were a necessary part of being in certain ensembles, there are classes I take that are necessary to my degree, etc. I also felt some of those pieces were extremely educational for me as a musician, even though I walked away from them not wanting to play them again.

 

Generally I think there is either incentive to the act, or more importantly one can see value in the action despite it being something they greatly dislike. I feel like negative experiences are consequentially linked to total "bad", or the lack of good consequences, and to me that can become a harmful stigma. I believe that the things we strive for in our lives harbor necessary pain and evils because of how those things are inherent to the nature of the world itself, and as a result trying to avoid them or not seeing them for what they are can only create more difficulties. There isn't really a correlation between benefit and satisfaction as much as there a desire for them to correlate. This means that sometimes in order to get to the new places we want to reach, we have to accept that not all of those experiences will be inherently enjoyable. There's a saying that passion makes work into play; I fully disagree. I simply think passion is the reason we work.

In short, being okay with the fact that you are part of something you don't like comes down to the purpose of the experience.

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I need to come around more often. Not that I'm important or anything but its nice here. Had to give away my husky recently. To a good wealthy family. He had cancer and despite my best efforts I could not afford the expenses, so to ensure my buddy's survival I had to. It hurts but it was the best thing I could do for him. Just wish I could've come to that conclusion before I poured 2k into him haha... 

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I need to come around more often. Not that I'm important or anything but its nice here. Had to give away my husky recently. To a good wealthy family. He had cancer and despite my best efforts I could not afford the expenses, so to ensure my buddy's survival I had to. It hurts but it was the best thing I could do for him. Just wish I could've come to that conclusion before I poured 2k into him haha... 

That's actually a really selfless thing you did. Good job!

I-Isn't but chugging really dangerous or something?

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Explain your experience.

See, okay. I need to provide a little brief backstory. Unfortunately, I suffer from chronic headaches and I tend to use marijuana as a bit of self-medication whenever I feel it's needed. I never seem to toke up enough to really get high, but just enough to where I can feel completely relaxed. Even then, this is pretty rare, so I really wouldn't call myself a stoner :v

That said, I was expecting the same thing at my friend's place last night. Just a light, relaxing high to where I could still mostly function normally. However I'd taken a massive bong hit this time, which resulted in me coughing up pretty hard for three minutes afterwards. About five minutes later, I'd realized I had been staring into the PC monitor for what seemed like ages, and then I knew I was high. Everything felt incredibly hazy and surreal - I would compare it to feeling as if you're in a dream. Talking becomes so ridiculously easy and effortless, it feels unnatural and dream-like. That's what really weirded me out the most. Time moved incredibly slowly, and I'd hyper focus on any mundane task I was doing at the time. Words and thoughts would come to mind, but it felt as easy to say them as it was to actually think them. Does that make sense? It was just a very surreal experience that I hadn't expected at all.

The high lasted about three or four hours. I can't fully remember. Me and my friend just chilled out and watched a bunch of videos. Everything was way more hilarious than it should've been. After that, I ended up driving home extremely carefully at about 12:30 AM and crashing in my bed. The whole experience was scary at first, but around the half-way point, it was very relaxing and enjoyable. Can't say I'm all that eager to do it again, though.

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I smoked the devil's cabbage twice in my life. The first time wasn't really anything, but the second time my appetite got ramped up to 11. My joints felt like they turned to lead, my tinnitus got louder and louder, I felt like I was sinking into my bed, and I could feel time. Like the last few seconds felt like it was 10 minutes ago or something.

Would go again, but that means having to network with people and make friends and stuff, fuck that.

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I prefer things that make me more productive, not less. I'll stick to well-moderated adderall and caffeine, thank you! :D

that's what sativas are for, I made some brownies from some butter a friend of mine made and he didn't tell me it was made with two really strong sativa strains,  I was up cleaning the kitchen til 2am ;)

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that's what sativas are for, I made some brownies from some butter a friend of mine made and he didn't tell me it was made with two really strong sativa strains,  I was up cleaning the kitchen til 2am ;)

Correction: That's what cocaine is for, when you absolutely positively need to get everything done within a two block radius.

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