Hillary Clinton is your new president, so you can stop arguing now.

[Rassah]

I'm going to go out on a limb here (hopefully without cutting myself off with me still on it), same as I did on Facebook two weeks ago, and make a claim that Hillary Clinton has been chosen to be your next president already. Everything that's been going on with elections is just political theater at this point. My reasons are such:

 

1) Hillary used private email for top secret communications, which was illegal, and then deleted email evidence to hide the crime, which was extremely illegal. That's basically no secret or conspiracy theory at this point, as she isn't even trying to hide it. However, FBI has refused to prosecute her, despite prosecuting and charging others for the exact same crime. That she's untouchable despite being clearly guilty suggests that she was picked by someone to be your next president, and those people don't want any issues with their selection. They will have her installed no matter what.

2) Hillary is supported by all biggest banks and Wall Street, who have given her tons of donations, and she has no qualms about supporting. Historically almost every candidate with support from the top of the financial sector has won the presidency, including Obama and Bush for the recent ones.

3) Hillary coordinated with Bernie, either from the start or around the time she got the nomination. There were a few claims from a year ago that Bernie isn't actually a serious candidate and is only there to bring in liberal democratic votes to the party, and then quit and hand those votes over to center right Hillary whom they would otherwise never support. And that's exactly what happened, where despite being clearly cheated out of the nomination, and being the opposite of Bernie on all of his important issues (him being anti Wall Street, anti big corps, anti war) he still endorsed her. Recent email leaks show Hillary's campaign planned to coordinate with Bernie, we just don't know when it started.

4) Recent email leaks showed Hillary campaign picked Trump as an easy to beat opponent. They promoted him, maybe even funded him, and helped him get the nomination. At the beginning I was fairly convinced Trump wasn't seriously running and just trolling the election process, trying to see how far he can go before being kicked out. I know someone who is friends with Trump, and according to them Trump doesn't actually believe a lot of the stuff he claimed at the beginning of his campaign. Now it seems either Trump is milking his newfound celebrity, or is stuck with the nominee status without actually expecting to get it, but Hillary was the one who helped him get there. I still doubt he has a chance of winning, and he may not even want to.

5) The biggest one is that, according to all financial, business, and labor statistics, the economy should be complete crap by now. Personal debt is up, labor participation rate is down (unemployment is skewed and hides the true situation), number of new business openings is way down, retail shipping and new business investments are way down, and both stocks and bonds are in a massive bubble. By all accounts we should be in a recession again, and expecting another major crash. But despite the economy being in the toilet, there's nothing about this in the media, and the economy is somehow being propped along and forced to keep going as if nothing is wrong. I suspect the crash is being stalled for as long as possible, until after the election. Historically, the party of the president who presided over an economic crash has almost always lost. More recently Bush Sr's recession led to Clinton, and Bush Jr's recession resulted in Obama. If this recession was allowed to happen, Obama and Democrats would take the blame, and Republicans would be guaranteed a win. But despite it supposed to be happening, it's not, which suggests to me that the same people protecting Hillary from criminal prosecutions are holding back the recession crash until after she's elected.

 

So, there it is, my prediction that your next president has already been chosen for you. Feel free to play pretend at the voting booth as if it will make any difference, and I'll see you in three weeks to see if I was right.

[Hux]

I wish I could hang all these Wall St. bankers by their nutsacks and spin them around until their junk explodes.

As the supreme leader of Antarctica, I would have it televised.

#Hux4Antartica2k17

#yolo

[Gamedog]

Whoever stands in killarys way will accidentally die mysteriously, so of course she will win

 

 

russia please nuke

please

[FlynnCoyote]

I can accommodate three refugees for a small fee per week, and a further eight if you don't mind camping in a small backyard that will be full of spiders in the coming months. Or you can stay in America with your own toxic creatures.

Hurry, spaces are limited. :v

[WileyWarWeasel]

@Rassah I'd be more concerned of you cutting yourself on the edge ;V

 

Seriously though, good points. I'll add some more because why not:

-Democracy in general in the vast majority of countries is just political theater.

-Trump doesn't have as much open support from big business as Hillary but his connections and activities point to him being a part of big business (or at least highly enmeshed in it). The media are making him an underdog because people (sometimes) love underdogs to win. That doesn't mean he will of course or that Hillary isn't planned to win like you said.

-Apparently out of the spotlight Trump and the Clinton family are good friends.

-Central banks and governments all over the world are working hard to forestall an economic crash, though for reasons far beyond petty politics.

-It matters little who gets elected, as long as someone from one of the two bought-out parties gets elected. Time and again political "leaders" have made promises only to go back on them and simply pursue the same policies dictated to them by vested interests just as before. How people keep falling for this EVERY SINGLE TIME I don't know.

-Adding to the above, a wise man once said "all politicians get to decide is which potholes get fixed first". While I daresay they get to make somewhat more significant decisions then that the majority of the "big-picture" decisions are made by others, politicians merely take on such policies as their own. We might as well just get a choice between which parrot takes office.

 

It's almost maddening that the economy can be doing so badly and getting worse while the media (and most people) ignore it. The vast majority of people here in Australia think that things are fine, just a minor downturn. Anyway looks like you've done your homework.

 

@Hux I'm afraid that bankers are only a part of the problem and they're not the biggest part of the problem either.

 

@Gamedog Too bad that will result in an outcome far worse than the one depicted in Fallout, and ironically would mean you couldn't play Fallout after ;(

[Saxon]

People were claiming that 'the Remainers have already won' in the British EU-vote, and accused them of rigging the result before the vote had actually even happened.

The brexiteers won.

Everything is decided by what people actually choose to vote on election day. We'd do well to remember that.

 

Also I'm surprised one of your friends knows Donald; what a coincidence.

 

[Endless/Nameless]

I too enjoy conspiracy theories. 

[#00Buck]

I see you heard about the wikileaks info too. 

Apparently there is another leak on the way and its supposed to be really good for Trump and bad for Hillary. 

Trump will still win. Daddy will be president. 

You'll see. 

[Rassah]

@WileyWarWeasel Trump doesn't really have a lot of connections to big business any more. He used to, but a lot of his businesses and projects failed, and people stopped trusting him enough to invest in him years ago. Since then he's been mostly just a celebrity, earning his money as an actor, not a businessman.

Regarding forestalling the crash, it's not just petty politics, it's making sure you have someone very friendly to you in the world's biggest (or second biggest) economy when it happens, so your wealth gets protected after the crash does happen, even at taxpayer's expense. 

@Saxon That vote was a simple majority vote, and in a country where voting, at least for specific issues, is still done properly. Our system doesn't work that way.

[Fossa]

6 minutes ago, Rassah said:

Trump doesn't have a lot of connections to big business any more. He used to, but a lot of his businesses and projects failed, and after he fucked so many people over, took their money, defrauded them, failed to pay his workers, had the common tax-payers bail out his failed casinos, acted like an immature, xenophobic cry-baby who thought he ruled the world, groped women, walked in on nude 15 year old girls at a beauty pageant, and said, yeah, he'd fuck his daughter, people finally woke up.

Geez, finally we agree!

[Zeke]

52 minutes ago, Rassah said:

That vote was a simple majority vote, and in a country where voting, at least for specific issues, is still done properly. Our system doesn't work that way.

We need to do away with the electoral college for starters so it can work properly.

[WileyWarWeasel]

49 minutes ago, Rassah said:

@WileyWarWeasel Trump doesn't tweaky have a lot of connections to big business any more. He used to, but a lot of his businesses and projects failed, and people stopped trusting him enough to invest in him years ago. Since then he's been mostly just a celebrity, earning his money as an actor, not a businessman.

Regarding forestalling the crash, it's not just petty politics, it's making sure you have someone very friendly to you in the world's biggest (or second biggest) economy when it happens, so your wealth gets protected after the crash does happen, even at taxpayer's expense. 

@Saxon That vote was a simple majority vote, and in a country where voting, at least for specific issues, is still done properly. Our system doesn't work that way.

Hmm that would mean that Trump really was a joke candidate. Yet he's still the main Republican candidate. What a bizarre election, even by US standards.

 

To avoid another wall of text we'll have to agree to disagree about wealth being protected in the next crash.

[#00Buck]

7 minutes ago, WileyWarWeasel said:

Hmm that would mean that Trump really was a joke candidate. Yet he's still the main Republican candidate. What a bizarre election, even by US standards.

 

To avoid another wall of text we'll have to agree to disagree about wealth being protected in the next crash.

Ah, you know Rassah well. 

[Troj]

Whomever wins, the sad part is that we can't put the genie back in the bottle. This election season has unearthed and generated a lot of nastiness, resentment, vitriol, and stupidity, and that's not going to all just magically dissipate after the election.

Mainly, the people who supported Trump will still possess the constellation of personality traits, festering grievances, and cognitive biases that led them to support someone like Trump in the first place.

[Sidewalk Surfboard]

You guys are conspiracy tards.

[LazerMaster5]

Quality thread.

Rassah is Alex Jones confirmed.

[Butters]

7 hours ago, Saxon said:

People were claiming that 'the Remainers have already won' in the British EU-vote, and accused them of rigging the result before the vote had actually even happened.

The brexiteers won.

 

 

The "brexit is just like USA Elections 2016" is a silly one though. 

For your analogy to work, we'd instead have to have a lot less people of color (The UK has what? 20 percent? America has 40.) We'd have to also have a huge gender gap. Instead, Brexit only had an age gap. Trump does dismally with female voters, and we have more of them than men in this nation. 

Unless Hillary totally fucks up the Vegas debate, Trump's goose is cooked. He doesn't win, by any great margin, any group except uneducated white males. We do have a lot of them, but not nearly enough to win an election. 

And in any case, Pussygate and his sexual assault allegations are a thing. That's why he's encouraging "poll monitors" to racially profile people of color on Nov. 8 (or 28th XD). PoC and women will win the election for Hillary. He's floppin' like a fish on dry land. 

@Rassah What do you think Trump's civil war with the Republican Establishment will have on the party in the long run? Are we seeing the new Whigs? 

[Dr. Doggo]

OH BOY I GET TO MAKE A NERD ESSAY TODAY :DDD

Rigging a vote is something that requires caution. I'd guarantee that that the Brexit vote was rigged in favour of the Remain camp, given the screamingly obvious establishments/big business/international/media interest in making remain win, and the fact that the Tory party appointed and took control of both official groups. However, when rigging a vote, there's only so much tweaking you can do in one direction to not make it incredibly suspicious. Look at Austria for example -- there was a rigging scandal there recently, where a party was seen to be getting more votes from certain areas than there were actually any registered voters.

Even seemingly inconsequential things like polls become victims of rigging. Polling methods can also be carefully constructed to ensure a certain result that establishment media will broadcast. It serves to demoralise opponents of the establishment. This is part of what may have happened with Brexit, as the polls were biased towards Remain winning, but that wasn't the result, hence the almost childish amount of denial and attempts to sidestep the result, or muddy what the vote actually meant. The media did something like that in Greece regarding EU intervention/austerity measures where the "NO" vote won, and instead redefined and pressed it as "wanting a better deal" even though they got a worse deal than they were previously offered.

Despite all the pussyfooting from the political establishment who didn't want Brexit to win the first place, it was won because the people wanted it badly enough to not be demoralised. There was far more passion behind the Leave crowd. And it's likely that the media made it so the Remain camp became so complacent that they didn't bother to vote as much as they probably could have. Turnout is critically important.

Trump has a very solid chance of winning the US election, and it'll likely be won for him in the same way that Brexit was. Despite him being an American mogul and reality TV figure, he had little to no relevance outside the US. Now he's a walking meme machine, and that's largely a fault of the western political and media establishment. The media can decide what people will see, but they can't decide what they'll actually LIKE. Even in places like India and Japan, he is popular and people are excited about him. Thanks to social media, he's pretty much a pop culture icon. Hillary Clinton is just another politician.

I think Hillary Clinton and her friends are going to rig the hell out of the election. Trump frequently fills entire sports stadiums, his campaign merchandise is selling OUTSIDE the US, and anything he does generates tons of noise. Clinton barely fills school gyms, her reception is comparatively flaccid, and many people on her side sell her as "the lesser of two evils." Wow, talk about enthusiasm. Hardly matches the Bernie fever.

Who do you think is going to get a way bigger turnout?

Given what we learned from Brexit, I think the establishment media pitching Trump constantly as someone who cannot possibly win is going to do nothing more than make the Democrats become complacent and the Trumpeteers feel daring and excited for the election day. The remaining question is who will actually win. I feel like Hillary will win, but she will not win legitimately. There may or may not be some kind of investigation after the fact.

[LazerMaster5]

All I can say is that every vote counts. Don't listen to those who say other wise. Go out and vote for who you think will do the best job leading our fine nation for the next 4 to 8 years. Don't let ANYONE intimidate you into not voting. Go out and vote, it is your responsibility as an American. Papa bless.

[Saxon]

13 minutes ago, Butters said:

The "brexit is just like USA Elections 2016" is a silly one though. 

For your analogy to work, we'd instead have to have a lot less people of color (The UK has what? 20 percent? America has 40.) We'd have to also have a huge gender gap. Instead, Brexit only had an age gap. Trump does dismally with female voters, and we have more of them than men in this nation. 

Unless Hillary totally fucks up the Vegas debate, Trump's goose is cooked. He doesn't win, by any great margin, any group except uneducated white males. We do have a lot of them, but not nearly enough to win an election. 

And in any case, Pussygate and his sexual assault allegations are a thing. That's why he's encouraging "poll monitors" to racially profile people of color on Nov. 8 (or 28th XD). PoC and women will win the election for Hillary. He's floppin' like a fish on dry land. 

@Rassah What do you think Trump's civil war with the Republican Establishment will have on the party in the long run? Are we seeing the new Whigs? 

Can we say 'ethnic minorities' instead of 'people of colour'? Of is rarely used in that way, so it's a mouthful of a phrase.

The only point I sought to make is that the results of elections are determined at the polls and they can defy expectation. The Brexiteers won even after one of their supporters assassinated a politician and a series of allegations that the vote was rigged in favour of remain.

Here's hoping that Trump supports go out to vote on November 28th. ;3

[LazerMaster5]

1 hour ago, Saxon said:

Can we say 'ethnic minorities' instead of 'people of colour'? Of is rarely used in that way, so it's a mouthful of a phrase.

The only point I sought to make is that the results of elections are determined at the polls and they can defy expectation. The Brexiteers won even after one of their supporters assassinated a politician and a series of allegations that the vote was rigged in favour of remain.

Here's hoping that Trump supports go out to vote on November 28th. ;3

Ironically November 28 is the date the Trump University scam goes to court.

[#00Buck]

56 minutes ago, Sidewalk Surfboard said:

You guys are conspiracy tards.

I like Alex Jones because he is against the Lizard people. 

[LazerMaster5]

1 hour ago, #00Buck said:

I like Alex Jones because he is against the Lizard people. 

Maybe if he was against the Fish people instead I would like him more. Fish don't feel anything.

[Saxon]

22 minutes ago, Sir Gibby said:

OH BOY I GET TO MAKE A NERD ESSAY TODAY :DDD

Rigging a vote is something that requires caution. I'd guarantee that that the Brexit vote was rigged in favour of the Remain camp, given the screamingly obvious establishments/big business/international/media interest in making remain win, and the fact that the Tory party appointed and took control of both official groups. However, when rigging a vote, there's only so much tweaking you can do in one direction to not make it incredibly suspicious. Look at Austria for example -- there was a rigging scandal there recently, where a party was seen to be getting more votes from certain areas than there were actually any registered voters.

Even seemingly inconsequential things like polls become victims of rigging. Polling methods can also be carefully constructed to ensure a certain result that establishment media will broadcast. It serves to demoralise opponents of the establishment. This is part of what may have happened with Brexit, as the polls were biased towards Remain winning, but that wasn't the result, hence the almost childish amount of denial and attempts to sidestep the result, or muddy what the vote actually meant. The media did something like that in Greece regarding EU intervention/austerity measures where the "NO" vote won, and instead redefined and pressed it as "wanting a better deal" even though they got a worse deal than they were previously offered.

Despite all the pussyfooting from the political establishment who didn't want Brexit to win the first place, it was won because the people wanted it badly enough to not be demoralised. There was far more passion behind the Leave crowd. And it's likely that the media made it so the Remain camp became so complacent that they didn't bother to vote as much as they probably could have. Turnout is critically important.

Trump has a very solid chance of winning the US election, and it'll likely be won for him in the same way that Brexit was. Despite him being an American mogul and reality TV figure, he had little to no relevance outside the US. Now he's a walking meme machine, and that's largely a fault of the western political and media establishment. The media can decide what people will see, but they can't decide what they'll actually LIKE. Even in places like India and Japan, he is popular and people are excited about him. Thanks to social media, he's pretty much a pop culture icon. Hillary Clinton is just another politician.

I think Hillary Clinton and her friends are going to rig the hell out of the election. Trump frequently fills entire sports stadiums, his campaign merchandise is selling OUTSIDE the US, and anything he does generates tons of noise. Clinton barely fills school gyms, her reception is comparatively flaccid, and many people on her side sell her as "the lesser of two evils." Wow, talk about enthusiasm. Hardly matches the Bernie fever.

Who do you think is going to get a way bigger turnout?

Given what we learned from Brexit, I think the establishment media pitching Trump constantly as someone who cannot possibly win is going to do nothing more than make the Democrats become complacent and the Trumpeteers feel daring and excited for the election day. The remaining question is who will actually win. I feel like Hillary will win, but she will not win legitimately. There may or may not be some kind of investigation after the fact.

 

Until evidence appears that there is vote rigging I'm not convinced, but I think you're right that turnout won that vote.

I knew someone who went to vote leave because she didn't like seeing Chinese people in Guildford. Chinese people. 
By comparison, my brother didn't bother to vote because he didn't think there was any chance things would change, so he didn't see any point.

 

Maybe if he was against the Fish people instead I would like him more. Fish don't feel anything.

 

 

But humans and fish can coexist.

[#00Buck]

2 minutes ago, LazerMaster5 said:

Maybe if he was against the Fish people instead I would like him more. Fish don't feel anything.

Fresh water fish are the ultimate life form.

Fish feel great! 

[DrGravitas]

14 minutes ago, LazerMaster5 said:

All I can say is that every vote counts. Don't listen to those who say other wise. Go out and vote for who you think will do the best job leading our fine nation for the next 4 to 8 years. Don't let ANYONE intimidate you into not voting. Go out and vote, it is your responsibility as an American. Papa bless.

This is worth repeating: Nothing is a sure thing and never let appearances or anything else intimidate you into not voting or otherwise discourage you.

[TrishaCat]

I don't really know where this is relevant but it bugs me a bit and I wanted to get it off my chest and it seems somewhat relevant here:

I feel a bit like I'm disappointing my parents; my absentee ballot came in, and my mom asked if I knew who I was voting for, so I said probably Jill Stein and there was just an awkward pause, and then she continued by asking if I were watching the debates in a few days and clarified that it'd be just Hillary and Trump at them.

My mom has told me before that a third party candidate is wasting my vote/doing something meaningless, and I've tried to say otherwise and for a time I believe that she understood my reasoning, but the conversation on the phone earlier today just kind of disheartened me. I know she thinks that my vote is going to waste, and I feel like I'm disappointing her as a result. It bothers me a bit. I want my parents to be proud of me and believe in me.

[Socketosis]

4 hours ago, LazerMaster5 said:

Fish don't feel anything.

And I'm living off of grass
And the drippings from the ceiling
But it's okay to eat fish
'Cause they don't have any feelings

[Zeke]

23 minutes ago, Battlechili said:

I don't really know where this is relevant but it bugs me a bit and I wanted to get it off my chest and it seems somewhat relevant here:

I feel a bit like I'm disappointing my parents; my absentee ballot came in, and my mom asked if I knew who I was voting for, so I said probably Jill Stein and there was just an awkward pause, and then she continued by asking if I were watching the debates in a few days and clarified that it'd be just Hillary and Trump at them.

My mom has told me before that a third party candidate is wasting my vote/doing something meaningless, and I've tried to say otherwise and for a time I believe that she understood my reasoning, but the conversation on the phone earlier today just kind of disheartened me. I know she thinks that my vote is going to waste, and I feel like I'm disappointing her as a result. It bothers me a bit. I want my parents to be proud of me and believe in me.

Vote for a third party. Even if it isn't going to count towards the candidates of the two front-running parties, you and many others voting for a third candidate puts out some semblance of awareness that there are other candidates/parties out there. Even if you feel your parents will not approve of you voting a third party, do not let that intimidate or stop you for voting for the candidate that you think's right.

[Rassah]

8 hours ago, Sidewalk Surfboard said:

You guys are conspiracy tards.

I'm not, actually. Being raised in a scientific household and taught to question and verify everything, I make fun of conspiracy tards.

7 hours ago, Butters said:

 

@Rassah What do you think Trump's civil war with the Republican Establishment will have on the party in the long run? Are we seeing the new Whigs? 

I don't think there will be any effect at all. He'll be forgotten and it will be business as usual. Ditto for Democrats. The supporters of both parties are slowly draining away though.

7 hours ago, LazerMaster5 said:

All I can say is that every vote counts. Don't listen to those who say other wise. Go out and vote for who you think will do the best job leading our fine nation for the next 4 to 8 years. Don't let ANYONE intimidate you into not voting. Go out and vote, it is your responsibility as an American. Papa bless.

Unless you live in the 45 states that aren't swing states, in which case your state will just go the way it always does.

@Battlechili It's ok, you can tell her that hers is a wasted vote too, especially if you don't live in a swing state. But @Zeke is correct, vote third party, at least to show that there is a large protest continent against the establishment.

And btw, point is that rigging the actual votes isn't the only way to win an election. When in a country of 350 million people you are given a choice between a horrible person and a tolerable politician, even if you vote, are you really being given a choice?

P.S. I really don't like Alex Jones either.

[Butters]

1 hour ago, Rassah said:

 

I don't think there will be any effect at all. He'll be forgotten and it will be business as usual. Ditto for Democrats. The supporters of both parties are slowly draining away though.

 

I don't think he'll ever be forgotten. It's Donald Trump after all. He's a giant celebrity and has been referenced in our culture for atleast 30 years. And he basically was the face of 2015/16. 

I kinda think his effect will be just as massive.  He has caused some confusion among his base. Do they choose the next "Donald Trump" or a "worse than hillary" mainstream republican for congress? The Deplorables are out of the closet and ready to elect more Trump-like candidates. It'll split the republicans and lead to more democrats in the legislative branch. I really don't think Republicans can win another presidency if they follow Trump's example and don't reach out to minorities and women. WIth a significantly less white America (and the aging/dying population that is fiercely conservative), they just don't have the numbers anymore.

Just like the republican autopsy report post-Obama victory in 2012 said. 

[Rassah]

If Republicans have a chance after the horror show that was G W Bush, I'm sure they'll do fine. And do you remember that Arnold Schwarzenegger was a politician in charge of California once? Most people forgot. So, wishful thinking on your part

 

[Tsuujou]

Rassah, do you happen to have any links to the claims you listed? I just want to read into the things you talked about is all.

[#00Buck]

2 minutes ago, Rassah said:

If Republicans have a chance after the horror sore that was G W Bush, I'm sure they'll do fine. And do you remember that Arnold Schwarzenegger was a politician in charge of California once? Most people forgot. So, wishful thinking on your part

 

Ugh must resist the urge to give you likes. 

[Butters]

30 minutes ago, Rassah said:

If Republicans have a chance after the horror sore that was G W Bush, I'm sure they'll do fine. And do you remember that Arnold Schwarzenegger was a politician in charge of California once? Most people forgot. So, wishful thinking on your part

 

Schwarzenegger running on a moderate (establishment) republican ticket in the Hollywood state in the 2000's is comparable to Trump's scandal infused, bigotry fanning, establishment slapping, media threatening 1.5 year Klan rally post Obama? 

M'kay...

[Zaraphayx]

Maybe Trump will have a final solution to the Nerd Essay Problem.

[#00Buck]

1 minute ago, Zaraphayx said:

Maybe Trump will have a final solution to the Nerd Essay Problem.

All you need to do is buy a water filter from Alex Jones. 

[Zaraphayx]

Just now, #00Buck said:

All you need to do is buy a water filter from Alex Jones. 

Will he throw in some tangy tangerine to sweeten the deal???

[Gamedog]

I'm starting to think maybe I should be following Hillary Clinton instead of trump cause her views coincide with mine more

i like to say we should nuke Sweden and she calls for drone strikes on people who bother her, so I think she is the better choice for me

[Nova]

I dont think trump knows even things about politics.

 

[#00Buck]

14 minutes ago, Gamedog said:

I'm starting to think maybe I should be following Hillary Clinton instead of trump cause her views coincide with mine more

i like to say we should nuke Sweden and she calls for drone strikes on people who bother her, so I think she is the better choice for me

Do you like to call people the "N word?"

You should vote for her.

 

[Gamedog]

9 minutes ago, #00Buck said:

Do you like to call people the "N word?"

You should vote for her.

 

I prefer deplorable

[Nova]

1 hour ago, #00Buck said:

Do you like to call people the "N word?"

You should vote for her.

 

Nigel?

 

Nugget?

[Vitaly]

35 minutes ago, Nova said:

Nigel?

 

Nugget?

Burkina Faso sounds funnier.
Why no one calls people Burkina Faso?

[WileyWarWeasel]

14 hours ago, Sir Gibby said:

I think Hillary Clinton and her friends are going to rig the hell out of the election. Trump frequently fills entire sports stadiums, his campaign merchandise is selling OUTSIDE the US, and anything he does generates tons of noise. Clinton barely fills school gyms, her reception is comparatively flaccid, and many people on her side sell her as "the lesser of two evils." Wow, talk about enthusiasm. Hardly matches the Bernie fever.

So can you really blame him for his actions?

 

10 hours ago, Battlechili said:

My mom has told me before that a third party candidate is wasting my vote/doing something meaningless, and I've tried to say otherwise and for a time I believe that she understood my reasoning, but the conversation on the phone earlier today just kind of disheartened me. I know she thinks that my vote is going to waste, and I feel like I'm disappointing her as a result. It bothers me a bit. I want my parents to be proud of me and believe in me

The irony is that voting for the same two parties over and over again is also (mostly) meaningless.

 

6 hours ago, Rassah said:

And btw, point is that rigging the actual votes isn't the only way to win an election. When in a country of 350 million people you are given a choice between a horrible person and a tolerable politician, even if you vote, are you really being given a choice?

Shhhh, people need to think that they're getting a great choice by choosing between rotting cheese and somewhat feminine rotting cheese ;P

 

2 hours ago, Nova said:

I dont think trump knows even things about politics.

He doesn't need to know much. All he needs to do is read whatever is put in front of him and make the occasional racist remark ^^

[Nova]

2 hours ago, Vitaly said:

Burkina Faso sounds funnier.
Why no one calls people Burkina Faso?

Offtopic: i am from burkina faso

[Faust]

Democracy is the same all over. Nobody you'd actually feel comfortable voting for is eligible to apply for the job.

[Strongbob]

I'm not a big Hillary fan, but there is something important to accept here; with all of her mysterious 'scandals' she either A.) Didn't do them, didn't intend to do them, and is actually a decent person or B.) Did do them and is smart enough to leave no evidence and get away with it, which is actually a pretty good quality for a President.  Either of these options seems preferable to me over electing an unhinged orange orangutan.  But I think Rassah is right, this thing is already over, Trump has no path to victory.

[Victor-933]

Bitch can call herself whatever she wants but she'll never be my president.

[Faust]

59 minutes ago, Victor-933 said:

Bitch can call herself whatever she wants but she'll never be my president.

Mine neither. I'm British.

Not that I'm particularly fond of our current PM either mind you. If she came around asking for a cup of sugar, I'd give her salt.